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<alyssa> re when is DP alt mode coming --
<alyssa> "3 or 4"
<alyssa> "Days? Weeks? Months?"
<alyssa> "Maybe 5."
<Tramtrist> Hi alyssa
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<derek_> aslysa where did u get this
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<sven> it’s the official answer to when altmode is coming :p
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<stintel> haha love it
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<knedlik> Hey guys, any idea why I can't start my microvm? I'm getting a file/dir not found for both /dev/dri and /dev/snd...
<knedlik> Already had this happen a few times on older installs, never got to solving it.
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<demon_in_a_jar> hi all. What's the progress on the microphone support? Where can I take a look at the relevant code ?
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<demon_in_a_jar> thanks!
<knedlik> Hi peeps, if I haven't gotten an answer in 5 hours, is it safe to assume no one has seen my question? Or does no one simply know the answer?
<j`ey> but the krunvm stuff is pretty fragile it seems
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<knedlik> Will try, thanks! Yeah, I hope that when the more pressing stuff (Vulkan, microphone, ...) is done, integration of amd64 apps will be on the table
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<knedlik> Currently it's manageable for me, a tech-savvy person, but a casual user probably wouldn't have the slightest idea
<j`ey> I mean it's orthoganl, others could (and have with microvms etc) pick it up and work on it
<j`ey> we need more contributors!
<knedlik> I'm not sure microvms are the way, especially if we want as tight of an intergration as Apple's Rossetta
<Tramtrist> i read somewhere on the internets it was being upstreamed with fex?
<knedlik> Alyssa has the latest commit on FEX, so maybe?
<Tramtrist> the internets never lie and are always consistent
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<knedlik> Any idea if what you linked is supposed to be packaged in a nice way? Or will we still have to buildah unshare and there use krunvm?
<Tramtrist> i know whats in that post so.. nothing
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<Tramtrist> in other news oneko has been ported to wayland so i no longer have to live without a virtual cat https://git.sr.ht/~leon_plickat/wayneko
<Tramtrist> Got the author to include --layer the other day too so life is good again
<demon_in_a_jar> I would very much like to contribute but it feels like it's hard to get up to speed with the current apple-silicon know-how. Currently trying to go through m1n1's code, not sure if that is a good use of my time. any tips are welcome.
<j`ey> knedlik: it will be a vm of some form
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<j`ey> and im sure someone will create some nicer integration
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<knedlik> Now I'm getting this... I can get into the krunvm shell, but without GL acceleration: https://gist.github.com/KnedlikMCPE/e5ce138d2d72960d9d83f6591ec79280
<j`ey> yeah mesa is too old basically
<knedlik> Ah, so updating it should fix it?
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<j`ey> well it's the special mesa that provides the native context stuff thats old
<knedlik> Oh... any way I could build it from source or something?
<j`ey> maybe if slp has rebased his stuff
<j`ey> and pushed the branches
<knedlik> Do you have a link to his profile otn
<knedlik> on GitHub/GitLab?
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<knedlik> Thanks, I'll see what I can decipher from it
<knedlik> I'm thinking I could clone that repo and manually add the stuff that changed since then, no?
<knedlik> Or maybe the other way 'round might be easier...
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<alyssa> knedlik: fex is (one of my) day jobs, I don't work on the microvm stuff
<knedlik> Ah, makes sense
<j`ey> alyssa: are you running fex on m1 to test, or elsewhere?
<alyssa> j`ey: i just run the unit tests :p
<j`ey> on x86 or??
<alyssa> m1
<alyssa> the unit tests work with 16k
<j`ey> ok good!
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<j`ey> CalculateAF my meme brain cant read this properly
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<alyssa> heh
<j`ey> nice tho, more flags usage
<knedlik> Can I somehow merge a fork and it's parent for my own usage?
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<j`ey> knedlik: I think that branch I linked should be new enough already
<knedlik> It's 4 months old, does that include OpenGL 4.6 and stuff like that?
<j`ey> knedlik: that's just the last commit, look at the one before it
<knedlik> Ah lol
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<knedlik> So I install that on the host, right?
<alyssa> if you want to play x86 games, get a steam deck
<alyssa> if you don't want to do that.. please be patient
<alyssa> slp is doing this "evening and weekends"
<alyssa> it's deliberately not released yet
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<j`ey> I dont want to play any games, what should I do?
<knedlik> Alright, I just wanted to see where it's at... mainly for steam streaming to be honest
<knedlik> Moonlight works well, but on GNOME the mouse sensitivity is unbearable in game mode
<j`ey> do you need GPU for streaming?
<alyssa> j`ey: segfault
* j`ey sigsegvs
<knedlik> That's a good point, the M1 doesn't use hardware decoding on Asahi anyway
<j`ey> (yet!)
<knedlik> Yes, as applies to basically everything that doesn't work
<knedlik> If someone needs it, it will happen eventually heh
<Tramtrist> i recommend wayneko knedlik ... who needs gaming
<j`ey> I mean there's some progress on that front, with m1n1 being able to do some decoding
<knedlik> I kinda want to make my own Linux package manager... I don't know why, it's useless, but I want to
<j`ey> do it
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<adewart_> asahi crashes too much ..
<j`ey> do you have swap?
<j`ey> old installs didnt have swap by default
<adewart_> hmm it seems i have not swap activated no
<adewart_> old install ... i install 1 week ago
<adewart_> df -h would show me swap ?
<j`ey> adewart_: how much ram do you have?
<adewart_> 16gb
<j`ey> swapon --summary, what does that say?
<adewart_> i get full crash around twice a day
<adewart_> swapon --summary --> https://0x0.st/H5cN.txt
<adewart_> so i would have a swap file and not a swap partition ?
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<adewart_> when crash happens, the whole desktop is frozen, but i still can hear audio, podcast in the background,
<adewart_> but nothing answers to input anymore, no mouse no keyboard, even capslock key doesn't light up
<j`ey> try get some logs for it
<adewart_> j`ey: could you tell me what i should do in particular ?
<adewart_> for the logs
<adewart_> something like: https://labs.perplexity.ai/
<j`ey> journalctl -b -1 after a crash/reboot
<adewart_> darn clipboard error, sry
<adewart_> i meant: something like : dmesg -l err,crit,alert,emerg or journalctl -p err maybe ?
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<adewart_> should i upload it somewhere ?
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<adewart_> it's 480kb
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<j`ey> sounds like it was running for quite a while, i mean you could look at it yourself too see if there's anything that's obvious
<adewart_> no it was running for just a few hours, i had another crash earlier
<adewart_> here's the last part of it: https://0x0.st/H5cc.txt
<adewart_> i see the plug event, i plugged headphone jack it, to speaker, i know system was still working then
<adewart_> so starting from there, 15mn later i had to force shutdown, everything was frozen all of sudden
<adewart_> i was drag and dropping an audio file from dolphin to mpv when that happened
<j`ey> yeah nothing there really :/
<adewart_> what else i could get to help diagnose those crashes ?
<j`ey> not sure..
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<adewart_> would those help ? https://0x0.st/H5cM.txt it's both journalctl -p err and dmesg -l err,crit,alert,emerg -T
<adewart_> ( i disabled selinux since previous boot, it's very recent, it cannot be the cause, i was experiencing those crashes before, it's been 1 week, i have 1-2 crash a day
<adewart_> )
<adewart_> i mean since i've installed
<adewart_> what about that one: simple-framebuffer simple-framebuffer.0: [drm] *ERROR* could not acquire memory range [mem 0x103df576880-0x103e0b4687f flags 0x200]: -16
<j`ey> nah that's normal
<adewart_> ok then ..
<adewart_> it looked bad to me, but if you say it's ok, then it's ok
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<adewart_> my case is always the same: all of sudden total loss of input
<adewart_> and this is journalctl -p err, for all of today: https://0x0.st/H5c_.txt (49kb, two crashes)
<adewart_> you can see the 'forced shutdown' string, this morning (12:57, and now 21h30)
<adewart_> i'm getting those everyday (and i power down the laptop at night, so uptime is really minimum)
<adewart_> j`ey: if i upload the whole journalctl -b -1 (480kb) would that help ?
<adewart_> i think opengl is currently outputing a lot that would explain the size
<j`ey> might help someone
<adewart_> ok here it is: https://0x0.st/H5cO.txt
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<adewart_> the time for the two crashes are 12:57 and 21:30
<j`ey> you could also try ssh into it as well
<adewart_> is sshd up by default ?
<j`ey> not sure
<adewart_> but even if i could log in, maybe i could kill a few process and get the system back into usable shape, but that wouldn't explain why there is no explanation in the log, i mean why we cannot see much of a cause of crash
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<j`ey> but you might be able to figure out whats going on
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<adewart_> login through ssh could help working around the crashs when they happen, but not help diagnose them
<adewart_> j`ey: how so ?
<adewart_> if i could log through ssh, i would look into logs, but since they don't tell much apparently i don't see how else i would figure out much ?
<j`ey> see if CPU is like 100% etc
<adewart_> sshd seems up by default
<adewart_> i'll try it next time it happens
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<adewart_> yes, i've just tried it, i can log in through ssh
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<jb1277976> any progress on the internal microphone ?
<j`ey> there was some progress https://github.com/AsahiLinux/m1n1/pull/381 but I think eiln is busy with school for a bit so said progress will be slow for a while
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<jb1277976> I don't even know why i'm asking my screen is cracked on my m1 lol
<jb1277976> bb in a month or so
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<Tramtrist> just keep an eye on that repo if you're looking for more live updates 🤷‍
<Tramtrist> oh hes gone
<Tramtrist> they're* gone
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