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<mareko> Venemo: it's impossible to link separate GLES shaders with mediump IO correctly without separate 16-bit semnatics
<mareko> while inputs/outputs are packed
<mareko> it's necessary for supporting mediump in GLES, and that's it
<mareko> it's explained in the MR adding them
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<mareko> the reasons are also described in shader_enums.h
<mareko> though a full proof is not given
<mareko> the proof is in the MR
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<MrCooper> jannau: I'm afraid you'll need to synthesize vblank events in some way (consistent with page flip completion events)
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<tzimmermann> danvet, airlied, the most recent drm-misc-next PR has not been merged. is that intentional?
<dolphin> tzimmermann: when'd you send it? drm-intel-gt-next not merged either but that was on Friday
<tzimmermann> dolphin, it was sent by mlankhorst on thursday
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<dolphin> I would assume just busyness with -fixes
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<tzimmermann> after -rc6, it might not make much sense to merge the PR now
<dolphin> oh, no separate drm-misc-fixes? I think I keep forgetting that
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<darkbasic4> karolherbst: I've tried darktable git master: same issue with the black images and failing kernels (but slightly different logs). Fun fact arecibo benchmark is twice as fast now, not sure if you did some wizardry in rusticl in the past week or darktable did
<karolherbst> probably darktable? dunno
<karolherbst> is the output fine?
<darkbasic4> no, still black as before
<karolherbst> ahh
<karolherbst> sadly I have no idea if I even be able to look into more rusticl stuff this week :/ Have some work stuff and nouveau regression to take care of... though you could check if using llvmpipe is any better
<karolherbst> I suspect it is tho
<darkbasic4> karolherbst: oh I've find the culprit of most of the cl performance improvement: darktable resources set to large which increases opencl gpu memory (https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.0/en/special-topics/mem-performance/#darktable-resources). I completely forgot I had changed it from default to large
<karolherbst> ahh
<darkbasic4> karolherbst: do I need -Dgallium-opencl="icd" for llvmpipe? Because it builds clover and I don't want darktable to bitch about multiple cl implementations
<karolherbst> no
<karolherbst> just need to add swrast as a gallium driver
<karolherbst> and use RUSTICL_ENABLE=lp
<karolherbst> darktable might complain that it's a CPU device
<karolherbst> then use RUSTICL_DEVICE_TYPE=gpu
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<darkbasic4> karolherbst: oh wait you didn't mean to use LP_CL=1 right? What's the difference with RUSTICL_ENABLE=lp?
<karolherbst> the old env vars won't work with rusticl anymore, because how different things are. RUSTICL_ENABLE is the only way of enabling drivers and also tidies up the mess of each driver needing their own.
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<darkbasic4> karolherbst: without RUSTICL_DEVICE_TYPE=gpu I get "discarding new device as emulated by CPU" in darktable, while adding it I get "marked as disabled" and so still no opencl acceleration. both are with RUSTICL_ENABLE=lp obviously
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<karolherbst> heh...
<karolherbst> why is it marked as disabled tho?
<karolherbst> too slow?
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<darkbasic4> karolherbst: no idea, but if that's the reason is finds out so BEFORE starting the benchmark: https://pastebin.com/i8nV9zHi
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<darkbasic4> karolherbst: maybe I've found how to override it: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/11691#issuecomment-1113989499
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<darkbasic4> karolherbst: [opencl_init] due to a slow GPU the opencl flag has been set to OFF.
<darkbasic4> WTF darktable stop overriding it :D
<karolherbst> yeah
<karolherbst> it does some quick check
<darkbasic4> karolherbst: lol I've increased the cl timout and it still found a way to disable it: [opencl_init] initial status of opencl enabled flag is OFF.
<darkbasic4> cl disabled flag is off but cl enabled flag is off as well XD
<karolherbst> yeah dunno.. I just know I somehow made it work at some point
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<darkbasic4> karolherbst: finally managed to bypass all the checks: llvmpipe works fine, no black images
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<karolherbst> cool
<karolherbst> yeah.. so I suspect there is something weird happening with discrete GPUs, because the code is a little bit different for those
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<clever> javierm: abuse all the connectors :D
<javierm> clever: haha, yeah. I read that and remembered our conversation :)
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<janusz> Hi, I wanted to report a bug, but when created account, I am getting this error on login: Your account is pending approval from your GitLab administrator and hence blocked. Please contact your GitLab administrator if you think this is an error. How can I proceed?
<jekstrand> daniels: ^^
<daniels> janusz: did you receive an email from GitLab asking you to confirm your email address?
<janusz> daniels: yes, and I did
<janusz> just got email that my request has been approved. thanks
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<daniels> cool :) that’s the automatic mechanism in action
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<jekstrand> ?D
<jekstrand> :D
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<karolherbst> (we really should add a spoiler that users should use that "Sign in with" instead)
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<emersion> and have their GitLab account tied to another service's security?
<emersion> and a proprietary service at that?
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<jekstrand> I trust Google's infosec more than I trust fd.o. No offence intended to the fd.o admins, of course.
<DavidHeidelberg[m]> I would take that as a offence. :D
<bnieuwenhuizen> jekstrand: am actually more afraid of the "google locking me out and having no customer support" case
<karolherbst> you can also connect github/twitter (haha lol) and gitlab
<bnieuwenhuizen> that said, you can make an account using email and then log in with google while using the original creds as backup
<karolherbst> that defeats the purpose of not having to wait on that activation email
<karolherbst> (and not having to get approved by that and what not)
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<karolherbst> but you can sign in and the do a password reset afaik
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<jekstrand> Yeah, I'm gonna tie it to Twitter... 6 months ago, that might have sounded like a really good idea but not today. :P
<jekstrand> I trust Marge to merge my patches the first time more than I trust Twitter to not go down at this point.
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<karolherbst> lol
<MrCooper> poor Marge, getting blamed for the CI over which she has no control :)
<daniels> jekstrand: absolutely none taken. Google are somewhat better at security than us
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<DavidHeidelberg[m]> MrCooper: Maybe we can call the CI Bart? :D
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<MrCooper> hehe
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<DavidHeidelberg[m]> Bumping the meson in CI from the 0.61 to 0.63, anyone see obvious issue with that? I would like to use the new script bundled with it "meson env2mfile" for cross builds
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<airlied> danvet: will do next today, had a couple of days of low bandwidth :-p
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<DavidHeidelberg[m]> eric_engestrom: do you have some tests you disabled due to OOM? I'm currently trying to find anything which is over the edge and could be tested if enough memory is provided (for zram MR)
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<eric_engestrom> DavidHeidelberg[m]: now, I haven't been able to narrow down the test list as basically any change makes it not reproduce (we think we need a very specific combo of tests that happen in parallel)
<eric_engestrom> the OOMs do seem to happen less often when disabling some caches, so we've been exploring that
<DavidHeidelberg[m]> eric_engestrom: btw. I ended up on your 512M, everything above so far seems to be unused, but I'll see in future with the traces
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<eric_engestrom> yeah when looking at each test's peak memory footprint the largest was 241 MB; taking the 4 biggest together would never reach anything near 1 GB, much less 4 GB
<eric_engestrom> it's been very puzzling
<eric_engestrom> but I'm happy to run that zram patch of yours in a loop to see if it alleviates the problem
<eric_engestrom> DavidHeidelberg[m]: do you have a branch ready to test?
<DavidHeidelberg[m]> branch: zram_for_traces_n_stuff
<eric_engestrom> DavidHeidelberg[m]: thanks! I'll run that overnight
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<DavidHeidelberg[m]> thank you Eric! :)
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* alyssa stares at GitLab
<alyssa> 1000 open MRs
<alyssa> review bankruptcy time? :-p
<ajax> only!
<alyssa> meanwhile
* alyssa grumbles about not being able to do nir_lower_{blend, fragcolor, texcoord_replace, clip_fs} on lowered I/O
<DavidHeidelberg[m]> alyssa: it's surprising how many MR's on last page are recently updated :D
<DavidHeidelberg[m]> made 3 years ago, updated in last 5 days :D
<alyssa> DavidHeidelberg[m]: heh, yeah
<alyssa> we lost a lot of last updated information when we retargeted master->main
<ajax> gitlab analytics notes that we're averaging 57.1 commits per day for our last 2000 commits
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<alyssa> ajax: of which a concerningly large 5.3 of those commits per day are mine >.>
<ajax> 633 merge requests landed in the last 35 days
<ajax> 1000 MRs ago was september 20
<alyssa> wild
<alyssa> I do wonder if we should be closing zombie MRs
<anholt> 20/day is about 2x faster than I expected we were pushing through. nice.
<alyssa> stuff where the original author has stopped caring, the code is blocked on review feedback, and the change isn't interesting enough for anyone else to pick up
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<alyssa> it's just tricky... feels 'rude' for anyone other than the original author to close an MR
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<alyssa> looking through the MR graveyard I see lots of stuff that probably could be closed
<alyssa> but if I didn't author the patch and I don't work on that part of the tree, who am I to make that judgement?
<ajax> you're 9% of the commit log, that's who you are
<alyssa> ajax: concerning.
<alyssa> my official title is "Software Developer" (-:
<javierm> alyssa: maybe you can ask in the MR if the author (or reviewers) feel that it could be closed due inactivity / nobody caring anymore ?
<ajax> i do like to go through old stuff and either update or close out while other stuff is compiling
<javierm> alyssa: then if in some time nobody asked, well is a way for them to answer :)
<alyssa> jekstrand: is an interesting case of the above, with a massive number of Intel MRs that jekstrand is obvious not going to finish off anytime soon but no good reason to close in itself
<javierm> s/nobody asked/nobody responds
<ajax> also, /reopen works. it's not like closing an MR is permanent, and even if it was you still have the commits and can make a new MR from them
<alyssa> yeah..
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<alyssa> at any rate I feel like hitting 1000 open MRs, this is probably the time to figure out a policy for this
<ajax> might be worth making a 'backburner' label for MRs that are old and unattended but still interesting enough to keep open
<alyssa> As a reviewer at least, it's frustrating not knowing what MRs I need to look at, with so many open
<ajax> and then like, send the 10 oldest non-backburner MRs to mesa-dev@ every week, and whatever doesn't find a champion befoe the next week gets closed
<ajax> (would be a really good way to draw in new contributors, this, since it'd be a constant stream of maybe interesting projects)
<alyssa> I'm listening :p
<alyssa> for lots of these MRs it's not even clear why they were forgotten
<alyssa> Does the change no longer apply?
<alyssa> Do they just need a review (and a rebase)?
<alyssa> Did the author stop caring but left the code for posterity?
<alyssa> Some combination thereof?
<alyssa> Without knowing... it's hard to know what to do
<ajax> yep. all of these things, we can label, and then search for.
<alyssa> For my own MRs, I'm trying to use the scheme where *any* MR that is not *completely ready to land conditional on reviews* gets marked Draft
<anholt> sounds like a good goal.
<alyssa> (If a review comment requires a nontrivial change that I don't do immediately, the MR gets marked as Draft until I make that change and am ready for a new round for review.)
<DavidHeidelberg[m]> alyssa: time to time, when you ping author he remembers and rebase :D
<alyssa> (And cynically for stuff in my drivers that people don't review ... the non-Draft MRs is the assign to Marge queue :-p)
* airlied has a few MRs where I probably merged 90% of them via another MR and forgot about the original
<alyssa> airlied: Yep. And it's hard for anybody else to tell that at a glance.
<alyssa> And then there are the especially 'interesting' cases where an MR is blocked and the original author isn't even in the project anymore
<alyssa> so it's truly zombie.
<jekstrand> alyssa: It's really easy. Just ignore MRs unless someone bugs you.
<alyssa> jekstrand: wise.
* alyssa closes GitLab and goes back to her homework
<alyssa> homework. yes, definitely homework. not reducing shader variants in asahi or anything, nuh uh
<jekstrand> I'm gonna start committing rust sins so, ya'know...
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<eric_engestrom> DavidHeidelberg[m]: "zramctl: no free zram device found" :(
<eric_engestrom> gonna go to sleep now, I'll see if there's something obvious tomorrow
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<eric_engestrom> ah wait, nvm, there is something obvious: we're not using that kernel, so the config change + rebuild needs to be done on our side as well
<DavidHeidelberg[m]> eric_engestrom: I'm also off PC, I'll check tomorrow
<eric_engestrom> no need, it's a problem on our side :)
<eric_engestrom> I know *what* to do, but I'll have to ask a colleague to know *where* to do it ^^
<DavidHeidelberg[m]> good, thanks :)
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