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<eric_engestrom>
daniels: sure :)
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<eric_engestrom>
daniels: you have reassign !29649 to marge but you haven't pushed anything; did you forget to `git push`? (or did you run it but gitlab had an error and didn't receive it?)
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<daniels>
oops, thanks!
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<eric_engestrom>
daniels: I think you accidentally just undid jenatali's changes :(
<daniels>
f
<daniels>
eric_engestrom: do you have the commit in your repo from when jenatali pushed?
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<eric_engestrom>
yeah
<eric_engestrom>
`git fetch fdo ea81bff8aa26217c8d4643f1448287ce5464f482` will get you all the commits in your cache
<eric_engestrom>
then you can do an interactive rebase and replace db2ce8bfbb1e8ea573a7 with a50ec799c2d13d7a0fa4
<daniels>
oh huh, I didn't think we could fetch dangling refs
<eric_engestrom>
as far as I can tell that's all that's needed
<eric_engestrom>
yeah it's pretty neat :)
<daniels>
well, you can't fetch arbitrary dangling refs, they do have to be reachable from somewhere useful
<daniels>
anyway, I'd manually recreated jenatali's zlib commit, and diff shows nothing meaningfully different apart from my nil build fix, so fingers crossed this one is it ...
<eric_engestrom>
yes and no: in practice gitlab never runs gc because there could always be a link somewhere on the internet that points to a commit
<daniels>
and right, it never runs gc, but gitaly does have a check to make sure that any commit you explicitly try to fetch is reachable from a visible ref
<eric_engestrom>
everything else is good though
<daniels>
anyway, marge is actually working on it now, so I'm not keen to interrupt her
<daniels>
sorry jenatali(e)
<eric_engestrom>
ack
<eric_engestrom>
and ack for gitaly, I didn't know
<eric_engestrom>
but that's a bit surprising though, I'm sure I've fetched stuff that was long dead
<eric_engestrom>
I guess it's all down to what counts as "visible ref"
<eric_engestrom>
it was definitely not in a git branch/tag anymore, but maybe a link in the webui "activity" history counts
<daniels>
yeah, it does count previous revisions of MRs as visible given that it keeps hidden refs to those
<eric_engestrom>
ack
<daniels>
but you can't e.g. fetch commits from other peoples' forks just because they happen to share storage
<zmike>
eric_engestrom: looks like pepp spotted our mystery spam source
<daniels>
strangely the libmesa target does already have idep_mesautil in its deps ...
<eric_engestrom>
zmike: yep!
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<zmike>
hero
<rgallaispou>
Hi,
<rgallaispou>
I have merged three patches regarding stm drivers, and pushing onto drm-misc-next showed conflicts with v3d drivers. I have resolved and rebuilt drm-tip as the dim doc said fyi
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<rgallaispou>
mripard: could you double check the changes ?
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<eric_engestrom>
haha daniels, casting a wide idep_mesautil net I see ^^
<eric_engestrom>
there's probably some overkill in there but I think that's good and we can remove unnecessary ones later
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<daniels>
heh yeah, some of them were definitely required - at this point pretty much everything pulls it in one way or another, so might as well be explicit about it
<eric_engestrom>
(just saw your comment)
<eric_engestrom>
and yeah I agree with you
<eric_engestrom>
I think meson could use a dependency tree viewer
<eric_engestrom>
not just in the `dependencies` sense, but anything that links one object to another, with the transitive stuff listed but marked as such
<eric_engestrom>
dcbaker: is there something like this?
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<eric_engestrom>
daniels: I think in 3h I'll make the branchpoint, and if your MR didn't make it I'll backport it for -rc2
<eric_engestrom>
does that sound ok?
* eric_engestrom
is ill and doesn't want to work late on friday evening
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<daniels>
eric_engestrom: yep, that's totally fine, thanks so much for your help & understanding so far
<daniels>
I'm doing some marge improvements as penance
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<eric_engestrom>
re- rpi, it looks random to me which ones fail to boot, so I think it's either a problem with the master or the pdu, but it happens on both of these two as well; we can't seem to figure out anything, and the baremetal farm is set to be retired hopefully Soon™ so we decided focus on migrating away from it instead of debugging it
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<eric_engestrom>
daniels: nice, thanks! r-b for the first two commits, and I'll read the last one when I have time to dive into it but it looks reasonable
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<eric_engestrom>
and yes, we have a ci-tron farm with a rpi dut and we're ironing out the kinks (it works now but it's not pretty), and hopefully we'll migrate all the duts there soon
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<sima>
mripard, for the drm-misc commit rights imo just ping drm-misc maintainers, this isn't something where airlied or me need to get involved I think
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<eric_engestrom>
daniels: all the build jobs are green, I think this time's the one! 💪
<eric_engestrom>
I'll post the branchpoint MR in a few minutes
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<daniels>
eric_engestrom: thanks, I owe you and jenatali both
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<daniels>
I have nfi how alpine-build-testing hit every failure so aggressively when the others (and local) were mostly fine ...
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<eric_engestrom>
race conditions are always fun :]
<eric_engestrom>
but yeah, no idea why they show up in that build so much more often
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<daniels>
\o/
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<jenatali>
IMO meson/ninja needs a deterministic mode for CIs, where targets are built in an order where generated files that can be consumed implicitly (like headers) are sorted last, and only built when no targets can make progress without them
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<Company>
jenatali: ninja -j 1 should give you "deterministic" at least
<Company>
and keeping the list of remaining targets sorted by extension or something doesn't sound too hard
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<Company>
I remember arguing the opposite - sorting the list so that the linking process of large libraries starts asap, and compiling testcases and whatnot happens after that
<Company>
well, not "opposite" - "different" is a better term
<eric_engestrom>
the problem with making the ci build deterministic like this is that it will hide all for us devs the build problems that the users/packagers will hit if they don't also do that
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<Company>
I was thinking jenatali wanted a debug tool to helps find missing deps after refactorings
<jenatali>
Yeah, that
<jenatali>
So CI can't pass if you're trying to merge a change that happens to work without explicit annotated dependencies for things that you're implicitly consuming
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<Company>
I wonder if what you really want is for meson to move away all files you don't explicitly depend on
<Company>
before running the command
<Company>
then order wouldn't matter
<jenatali>
That breaks parallelism though
<Company>
but you'd need a custom directory structure for each command
<Company>
technically you could give each command its own directory tree
<Company>
not sure how slow it gets when you start virualizing the file system for each command though
<eric_engestrom>
I see, yeah that sounds like a good debugging tool
<jenatali>
Probably very slow :)
<Company>
it sounds very powerful though
<Company>
because it should reliably find *every* missing dep
<jenatali>
I've contemplated adding a similar mode to our software D3D driver, so it explicitly executes commands in reverse submission order whenever allowed by spec, to help catch similar missing dependency bugs
<Company>
the validation layers recently told me I can't wait on that semaphore, because nobody is gonna signal it
<Company>
it was right (I had forgotten to add it elsewhere), but I wondered how it knew
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<pixelcluster>
Company: that case is pretty simple - you can wrap VkSemaphore objects with some metadata in the validation layers that tracks if some submission signaled this semaphore (and you reset it when something waits on the semaphore)
<pixelcluster>
if something waits on the semaphore and there was no previous submission signaling this semaphore, you throw an error
<Company>
pixelcluster: but the semaphore could be submitted later/in a different thread to a different queue, no?
<pixelcluster>
since wait-before-signal is forbidden for semaphores this works always
<Company>
or are semaphores queue-local?
<Company>
maybe there's a flag you need to set to make them cross-queue
<jenatali>
What's the point of a queue-local semaphore?
<Company>
pipeline stages
<pixelcluster>
semaphores are not queue-local
<pixelcluster>
but again, wait-before-signal is forbidden
<Company>
good thing I don't do multithreading yet
<jenatali>
Right, forgot that queue submission isn't a sequence point in Vk like it is in D3D
<pixelcluster>
if wait-before-signal is allowed there is no way to validate correct signaling I'm pretty sure
<jenatali>
Correct
<Company>
yeah, that's why I was surprised
<Company>
oh, it's only for binary semaphores
<jenatali>
Yeah, timeline semaphores can do wait-before-signal, right?
<Company>
considering you can import them and then wait on them, that seems like a requirement
<Company>
or can you import binary semaphores, too?
<Company>
you can
<Company>
I suppose they count as signaled if you import them
<Company>
*as queued for signaling
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<Company>
I clearly need to learn more about that topic
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<dcbaker>
jenatali: there’s some improvements to ninja that should make that better. One of the meson devs who’s also a gentoo dev has a script they’re using in portage to look for missing dependencies via dep file, which can at least find missing header dependencies
<jenatali>
Oh awesome
<dcbaker>
There’s been some work to try to make ninja build ordering more deterministic as well, and I think samu has a more deterministic build order
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<jenatali>
Very cool
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