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ChanServ changed the topic of #dri-devel to: <ajax> nothing involved with X should ever be unable to find a bar
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DavidHeidelberg >
jasuarez: alyssa just don't forget that booting machine and uploading data cost something
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DavidHeidelberg >
so, please, 15 min is good. Cost of paying 2 minutes for upload/boot is much more on 10m job than on 13-15m
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jasuarez >
Right. When I say 15min is for the girls job, which includes downloading stuff, booting, testing, uploading and finishing
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jasuarez >
s/girls/gitlab
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jasuarez >
I find particularly more clear to limit jobs to 15 min rather than specific testing to 10min
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equally well written, then using the vulkan one with opengl translation would have some level of overheaad (even if small), so I'm wondering, is the "minimum theoretical overhead" of opengl -> vulkan translation (with the opengl and vulkan drivers being equally good on their own) known? Is it significant enough to potentially warrant a from-scratch opengl driver in the far future?
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Company >
people have discussed that question a few times in here
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Company >
and the answer is "it depends"
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Company >
it depends on what your bottleneck is, it depends on the work you're trying to do on the GPU, it depends on the manpower you have to invest in bringing up a full driver, it depends on how fast Vulkan will replace OpenGL, and it depends on a bunch of other things I don't remember
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nep_nep >
understandable
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Company >
I think it also depends on how much time is invested into making zink fast - because zink doesn't always take the most common Vulkan codepaths
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"making zink fast" meaning both zink itself, but more importantly making sure the Vulkan driver optimizes for zink
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Company >
if you have a well-working GL driver, that's less useful, but if zink is your GL driver, it's way more interesting
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nep_nep >
At this point I'm just glad nvk exists honestly, even if opengl isn't as optimized as it could be. When I started using linux (early 2021) an open source nvidia vulkan driver seemed like a pipe dream, and at that point the nouveau kernel module didn't have GSP support yet so even opengl was far from great.
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