#openwrt-devel on 2022-08-09 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-04-23 15:03 nbd changed the topic of #openwrt-devel to: Forum: https://forum.openwrt.org/ | Wiki: http://openwrt.org/ | Release: https://downloads.openwrt.org/releases/21.02.3/ | Notes: https://openwrt.org/releases/21.02/notes-21.02.3 | Logs: https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/openwrt-devel

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00:17 <hurricos> YES

00:17 <hurricos> OK, I finally got it

00:17 <hurricos> tramp has a fucking awful stack

00:17 <hurricos> I redirected the serial connection using socat

00:17 <hurricos> so I'm pointing at 127.0.0.1 -p 31337 with nc

00:17 <hurricos> tramp-local-host-regexp is a variable defined in ‘tramp.el’.

00:17 <hurricos> Its value is

00:17 <hurricos> "\\`\\(127\\.0\\.0\\.1\\|::1\\|fedora\\|localhost6?\\)\\'"

00:18 <hurricos> That fucker is consumed by tramp-local-host-p in tramp-sh-handle-write-region which behaves differently IF YOU'RE ON THE LOCALHOST

00:18 <hurricos> it saves buffers DIFFERENTLY

00:18 <hurricos> I AM NOT ON THE LOCALHOST!

00:18 <hurricos> So I did the 127.0.1.1 trick and it worked ;^)

00:18 <hurricos> well, I can copy buffers DOWN now. Let's see up.

00:19 <hurricos> oh fuck yes it works.

00:19 <hurricos> :D

00:21 <hurricos> This whole thing came about only because I didn't want to blow up another AP3825i. They can't be powered both on PoE and on 12V, discoverd that the hard way

00:23 <hurricos> mrnuke_: ok, #15 appears to work for me. I actually get a bit fewer MCU rejections, is that expected?

00:25 <hurricos> yes! there's an error timeout! OK

00:25 <hurricos> I was expecting that based on how the errors were distributed

00:25 <hurricos> Great, I like it. This works, it's functional, I'm going to rebase+merge and we can go about our day

00:28 <hurricos> I wish I had this on the SNIC10e's, I had to manually copy packages using a base64 awk script like a schmuck

00:28 <hurricos> I had to bootstrap that here but it worked in the end

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00:47 <danieli> I am currently working on adding a new platform, SoC and board - is the structure with regards to the build system always SoC series -> board or could I for instance do SoC family -> SoC 32-bit / SoC 64-bit -> board so there would be 32-bit and 64-bit variants?

00:47 <danieli> or do you always target 64-bit for chips capable of both?

00:50 <danieli> I am specifically aiming at some Qualcomm IPQ chips

00:51 <dwfreed> if they are 64 bit capable, why not use it?

00:55 <danieli> I recently got a hold of a router to test it out and the vendor used 32-bit for god knows what reason, possibly laziness - thought I'd do a PoC with aarch32 because of that

00:56 <\x> maybe small memory?

00:57 <danieli> I'm not sure how low they go but the one I got a hold of has 512M

00:57 <\x> thats weird

00:57 <danieli> the bottom end does however tend to go really low, though I doubt that for the IPQs

00:57 <\x> though ive seen an ipq60xx device come with a 32-bit OS in it as it only had 128MB ram

00:58 <danieli> yeah I've seen that too, ipq60xx is the one I'm working on right now and I have another board in transit somewhere

01:00 <\x> i hope ipq60xx gets proper support soon

01:00 <danieli> anyway, I suppose my question boils down to the flexibility of the build system and if it breaks with the structure of other chips/boards

01:00 <\x> none of that qsdk based builds

01:00 <danieli> \x: same, they're quite nice even if they can get fairly low-end and have some drawbacks

01:01 <danieli> I don't really mind QSDK in and of itself, but I prefer free software and a minimal base system without bloat

01:01 <\x> theres some other repos that kinda tried having ipq60xx support in them but im not sure how did it go

01:01 <danieli> I've probably dug up most of them by now

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01:02 <danieli> working on incorporating similar changes to openwrt/openwrt (upstream) and doing a PoC

01:02 <\x> lean had that axt1800 something repos with like 6 ipq60xx devices or so

01:02 <\x> but that repo is no longer public

01:02 <danieli> yeah that's one of the boards I have, it runs ipq60xx and a bloated 32-bit QSDK build

01:02 <danieli> it's easy to play with since JTAG and UART are easily accessible, and that they do a lot of their work in the open (on GitHub(

01:03 <danieli> )

01:03 <\x> anyway the guy to call is likely robimarko

01:04 <\x> he did work for 807x and 60xx is kinda heavily related

01:04 <danieli> yeah, gl.inet used ipq807x as some sort of dummy platform for it

01:05 <danieli> that may just be remnants from how QCA structured it in their repos though

01:05 <danieli> https://github.com/Telecominfraproject/wlan-ap/tree/main/feeds/ipq807x/ipq807x/files/arch/arm/boot/dts ctrl+f "ipq6018"

01:09 <\x> whats the other board youre getting?

01:12 <danieli> the SoC is IPQ8074 for that one iirc

01:12 <\x> https://github.com/robimarko/openwrt/commits/ipq807x-5.15-pr

01:13 <danieli> neat, was it upstreamed?

01:13 <\x> it will be

01:13 <danieli> ah, very fresh changes

01:14 <\x> https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/openwrt-devel/2022-08-03#31159797 danieli

01:15 <danieli> oh, I did not know that mikrotik announced the hap ax2, that's neat, I'll definitely snatch one when the opportunity arises

01:15 <\x> ehh better wait and know if secureboot is enabled or not

01:15 <danieli> it seems like more boards using IPQ chips are being released in general, so interest probably won't lessen

01:16 <\x> im still on ipq40xx setup in my home, its all running neatly with pr 4721

01:17 <\x> but yup im looking forward to 60xx and such

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02:11 <mrnuke_> hurricos: I knew you'd like #15!

02:11 <mrnuke_> hurricos: I just applied the same methodology I used to use on my crazy ex: She'd start yelling, and I'd go for a walk. If se was still yelling when I got back, I'd go for another walk.

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04:44 <\x> Mangix: this might be of interest https://tildearrow.org/?p=post&month=7&year=2022&item=lar

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06:39 <KGB-1_> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_ath79.html has been updated. (99.0% images and 99.9% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)

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08:06 <stintel> https://conclusive.pl/devices/product/WHLE-LS1

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08:10 <mangix> lol

08:10 <\x> so how did it go Mangix

08:10 <mangix> haven't tried it out yet

08:10 <\x> iw list | nc termbin.com 9999

08:11 <\x> Mangix: oh i thought you have it on your omnia already

08:12 <\x> does it show up on lspci?

08:13 <mangix> yeah I haven't powered it up yet

08:13 <mangix> need to find an antenna

08:16 <\x> you can power it on without antenna its not like itll initiate ap mode

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08:17 <\x> but yeah it wont work with u.fl you need the new one, mhf4

08:18 <\x> if you got the converted m.2 1216 -> mini pcie half then itll work with u.fl

08:19 <\x> omnia have u.fl on them you can either get a u.fl to mhf4 or tbh just get an mhf4 pigtail to sma/rp-sma

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08:29 <\x> oh man he rebooted already

08:33 <stintel> ha that reminds me I have to order some mhf4 pigtails

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08:33 <\x> yeah its kinda the way forward even if your devices have mini pcie slots ;)

08:34 <\x> most new radios are now on ngff

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08:43 <\x> those diplexers on omnia are kinda cool though

08:43 <\x> i wonder on where can you get those cheap

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08:49 <mangix_> K my omnia's broken. I'll look at logs later but both wifi cards are not showing up.

08:50 <mangix_> They are under lspci but LuCI's not showing wifi interfaces.

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08:50 <mangix_> Maybe I need to fully reset it.

08:50 <\x> thats fine

08:50 <\x> yup

08:51 <\x> or you can configure /etc/config/wireless again

08:51 <\x> just wifi config

08:51 <\x> just w'ifi config'

08:51 <mangix_> Wonder if this is caused by that bootloader update I did.

08:51 <\x> nah

08:51 <mangix_> No it's not that

08:51 <mangix_> Even after wiping I get nothing.

08:51 <\x> weird

08:51 <\x> do you have the drivers?

08:51 <\x> and firmware?

08:52 <mangix_> Yeah. I'll look at it later. It's late.

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09:46 <\x> Mangix: got it working https://i.imgur.com/8fWdyux.png

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09:53 <f00b4r0> hmm

09:53 <f00b4r0> In file included from xdp-dispatcher.c:3:

09:53 <f00b4r0> In file included from ../../headers/linux/bpf.h:11:

09:53 <f00b4r0> /usr/include/linux/types.h:5:10: fatal error: 'asm/types.h' file not found

09:53 <f00b4r0> wth

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09:55 <PaulFertser> \x: do you mean ax200 on OpenWrt fails to bring AP up because it can't scan? Why setting option noscan isn't enough then?

09:55 * f00b4r0 doesn't care about xdp, disable build and ignores the problem ;P

09:56 <jow> that's the way :)

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09:57 <f00b4r0> jow: :D

10:00 <f00b4r0> However i'll send a patch to remove the "disable ipv6" option since it's clearly broken

10:01 <robimarko> Please do, as its pretty much impossible to make that work in 2022

10:01 <f00b4r0> *nod*

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10:02 <f00b4r0> robimarko: btw, I pinged on linux-mtd. We'll see what happens. One of the maintainers' email came back with a 550 Invalid Recipient though, which is cute :P

10:03 <robimarko> That instills confidence

10:03 <f00b4r0> doesn't it :)

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10:08 <slh> PaulFertser: iwlwifi (only) learns the regdom from its environment (802.11d), no scanning, no region set --> nothing allowed

10:09 <slh> so if one of your neighbours operates a misconfigured AP, with a wrong regdom hint, you're pretty much fscked

10:09 <PaulFertser> slh: is that enforced on firmware (ucode) level?

10:09 <slh> yes, on the ucode level

10:10 <PaulFertser> And yet apparently \x got an AP working on 5 GHz.

10:10 <slh> at least on linux (afaik the windows driver has more functionality in the driver)

10:11 <slh> I only remember on 2.4 GHz, but maybe on the shortrange channels without DFS (still, very sceptical about that)

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10:12 <\x> PaulFertser

10:12 <\x> https://i.imgur.com/8fWdyux.png https://tildearrow.org/?p=post&month=7&year=2022&item=lar

10:12 <\x> some more tests

10:12 <\x> https://imgur.com/a/mbG9Hec

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10:12 <\x> ipq4019 seems a little bottleneck

10:12 <\x> ;)

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10:13 <slh> (I do have ax200 and ax210 myself, however only using it in STA mode and not using OpenWrt - Debian with kernel v5.19; not quite equipped to do testing over the next few weeks either)

10:13 <\x> i still cant open 160MHz channels even with a tweaked regdb

10:13 <\x> PH regdb only allows non-DFS and non AUT0-BW on 149+

10:13 <robimarko> Doesnt it use FW regdb?

10:13 <\x> looks like it

10:13 <\x> but yeah credits to the tilde guy

10:13 <\x> tilde arrow

10:14 <\x> i cleaned up the patch a little bnecause openwrt already has the noscan thing

10:14 <\x> it is not needed

10:14 <PaulFertser> \x: please give a bit more context. What card is running the AP there and with what width?

10:15 <\x> ax200 m.2

10:15 <\x> 2x 80MHz

10:15 <\x> can see first image in lspci

10:15 <PaulFertser> And not doing the scan is enough for it to run an AP on 5 GHz?

10:15 <\x> can also see the cleaned up patch from tildearrow

10:15 <\x> openwrt by default cant do it

10:15 <\x> tildearrow guy talks about it in his blog

10:16 <\x> so what he did is he made hostapd to do a scan first

10:16 <\x> https://tildearrow.org/?p=post&month=7&year=2022&item=lar

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10:18 <PaulFertser> Hah, that's sick but potentially useful. Thanks for sharing!

10:18 <robimarko> Ahh, so it forces a s scan to learn the regulatory domain

10:19 <\x> for patching hostapd on openwrt his patch has some redundant parts that openwrt is already useful

10:19 <\x> using*

10:19 <\x> so you can just remove those ;)

10:20 <\x> but yes i still cant try 160MHz channels

10:20 <\x> but yes this guy's patch is very cool

10:20 <\x> im happy with 2x2 80MHz ax

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10:27 <\x> --

10:27 <\x> # (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW

10:27 <\x> # (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW

10:27 <\x> # (5490 - 5730 @ 160), (24), DFS

10:27 <\x> # (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)

10:27 <\x> this is PH's regdb for 5GHz

10:27 <\x> i cannot open those ones with auto bw and dfs

10:28 <\x> just heads up if anyone wants to try

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10:53 <\x> robimarko: you think this can be made to also do a 2.4GHz scan to learn its regdb? since the way it works right now is that it cant open itself if theres no other 5GHz AP around. and hell they need to even be configured correctly lmao

10:54 <PaulFertser> \x: the Intel dev says that feature works because it's needed for P2P.

10:55 <PaulFertser> Guess DFS isn't allowed for P2P anyway so no wonder the necessary bits are not implemented.

10:55 <\x> but its nice now that we can atleast kinda enable 5GHz AP now but yeah it does come with a ton of caveats

10:56 <\x> #1, need 5GHz APs broadcasting around #2, they need to be set properly regdb and things

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11:51 <robimarko> rsalvaterra: Can we get the mvebu 5.15 merged?

11:51 <ynezz> rsalvaterra: +1

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13:00 <f00b4r0> mt7521 DSA backport fixes sent. I've tested both master and 22.03, I tried to be thorough in my tests: from what I can tell it fixes the issue and doesn't break everything else.

13:01 <f00b4r0> i wonder if I should try to backport all the way to 5.4 for 21.02 which is also affected

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13:14 <f00b4r0> ldir: ping?

13:21 <danieli> blogic: qualcomm has a QSDK repo where your name is in the maintainer field, did they just copy another target without cleaning it or have you done any recent work on ipq60xx that they built on top of?

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13:27 <robimarko> danieli: Whats the repo?

13:28 <danieli> robimarko: https://git.codelinaro.org/clo/qsdk/oss/system/openwrt_repo/-/blob/NHSS.QSDK.12.0.5/target/linux/ipq60xx/Makefile

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13:33 <robimarko> I think they just copied it from the previous dummy ipq807x that was in OpenWrt

13:33 <danieli> that would make sense, but seemed a bit too lazy at first glance - I suppose I was wrong about that :)

13:37 <robimarko> Lazy is 90% of the stuff QCA does in code

13:38 <danieli> yeah I'm starting to see a pattern

13:45 <hauke> danieli: the marketing deparment probably did not request to change the maintainers line, so why do it

13:48 <f00b4r0> ;->

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13:58 <hurricos> mrnuke_: :D

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14:01 <hurricos> \x: ax200 cannot actually use 160MHz

14:01 <hurricos> Nothing that claims it can use 160MHz in the UNII-2 bands can

14:01 <hurricos> Unless it's super custom, anyways

14:02 <hurricos> I've only seen it work in HE, which ax200 is not :P

14:02 <hurricos> ditto for the wave-2 ath10k cards

14:02 <hurricos> \x: If you want HE, get https://www.asiarf.com/shop/wifi-wlan/wifi_mini_pcie/wifi6-3000-802-11ax-3t3r-dbdc-mpcie/

14:03 <hurricos> It takes two solid months to get to you but it seriously crushes. Outruns the CPU on my P1020, I have to try it again on a P1010 which is clocked higher

14:04 <hurricos> something like 1.2, 1.3Gbit practical

14:04 <hurricos> and that's only one way, not sure if nbd has changed this but the transmit queue takes more CPU to deal with

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14:06 <hurricos> hmm, I might be wrong about 160MHz.

14:06 <hurricos> might just be a wave2-ath10k limitation :P

14:13 <KGB-1_> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_omap.html has been updated. (11.1% images and 99.9% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)

14:13 <\x> i need to upgrade my ap first tbh hurricos

14:14 <\x> even overclocked ipq4019 kind of cannot handle ax200 2x2 80MHz so well

14:14 <hurricos> That's really surprising, btw. I thought P1020 was underpowered but it carried 650mbit on transmit

14:14 <hurricos> I'm going to guess iwlwifi is just not very efficient

14:15 <hurricos> btw: though it might be tempting, don't go with mt7921k cards, they're different mediatek silicon than the "proper" AP chips

14:15 <\x> can check one of image here

14:15 <\x> https://imgur.com/a/mbG9Hec

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14:17 <hurricos> that's on eth?

14:17 <\x> hurricos: no

14:17 <\x> thats over wifi

14:17 <hurricos> The second one, I meant.

14:17 <\x> still not

14:17 <hurricos> What was the card? ax200?

14:17 <\x> yes

14:18 <hurricos> Not sure how 2x2 achieves 1200

14:18 <hurricos> oh, higher MCS

14:18 <hurricos> Good practical throughput, nice

14:18 <\x> it still is kind of weird to use

14:18 <\x> because see

14:18 <\x> #1, need 5GHz APs broadcasting around #2, they need to be set properly regdb and things

14:18 <f00b4r0> yay. mt7621 dsa fixes successfully backported to 21.02

14:18 <\x> can see this

14:18 <\x> https://i.imgur.com/8fWdyux.png https://tildearrow.org/?p=post&month=7&year=2022&item=lar

14:19 <hurricos> Right, pain in the ubtt

14:19 <\x> credit to this guy hurricos

14:19 <hurricos> shame there are no cheapo mt76 cards that have real silicon on them :(

14:19 <\x> also with openwrt i have some issues

14:20 <\x> i have now three radios, this assures me that i can run that ax radio because one of the built in ipq4019 radio is 5GHz

14:20 <\x> but when i reboot, luci doesnt know that the ax200 radio is running even though AP is up

14:21 <\x> this happens when i enable all three radios 2.4, 5g1 and 5g2 (ax200)

14:21 <\x> if i only enable two radios 5g1 and 5g2 i dont have that issue

14:21 <\x> its weird

14:21 <\x> but yes its unsupported setup so its fine for now

14:23 <\x> https://imgur.com/a/Ip9Nntx

14:24 <\x> but yeah this is only something new that was discovered today

14:24 <\x> maybe tildearrow guy will do a pull req to hostapd or something

14:26 <\x> its just visual issue anyway

14:26 <\x> it works underneath

14:27 <\x> hurricos: how about rz616, mt7922 ?

14:30 <hurricos> I'm going to guess that all of the client-targetd silicon has been broken badly

14:30 <hurricos> but let me go buy one and find out

14:30 <hurricos> Oh, I don't see any available

14:30 <hurricos> RZ608 is crap, though

14:32 <\x> they are already out

14:33 <\x> likely ebay and taobao

14:33 <hurricos> Not finding any on eBay.

14:40 <\x> hmmm

14:41 <\x> is there a way to delay starting of an AP?

14:41 <\x> or a radio

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15:18 <\x> hah fixed it

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15:50 <f00b4r0> nbd: *sigh*. I'm glad to have lost a day of work on this. That'll teach me to look more carefully at the log

15:51 <nbd> given that the changes are upstream, i think backporting them still makes sense, but we have to get the issues fixed that led to the revert...

15:52 <f00b4r0> well the changes are upstreaming because they fix a bug in the first place :)

15:52 <f00b4r0> s/ing//

15:52 <nbd> yes

15:56 <f00b4r0> i note that I backported less than what was reverted. I'm trying to see if I can reproduce the issue mentioned, because I didn't notice anything wrong

15:56 <f00b4r0> i haven't checked throughput though

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16:37 <f00b4r0> and I can reproduce the issue afaict

16:37 <f00b4r0> fsck

16:40 <danieli> what is the point of the /lib/firmware/ath11k-macs that some variants of /etc/hotplug.d/firmware/10-ath11k-caldata writes?

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17:17 <danieli> I found some code that suggests it's related to custom MACs in the ath11k driver, looks like it's an additional WMI command that has never been upstreamed to Linux

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17:58 <robimarko> danieli: Whats the WMI call name?

17:59 <danieli> robimarko: ref https://github.com/Telecominfraproject/wlan-ap/blob/main/feeds/wifi-ax/mac80211/patches/pending/203-ath11k-mac.patch

17:59 <danieli> and https://github.com/Telecominfraproject/wlan-ap/blob/main/feeds/ipq807x/ipq807x/base-files/etc/hotplug.d/firmware/10-ath11k-caldata

18:03 <robimarko> That looks so weird

18:03 <danieli> it does, it appears that it's a mechanism for persistent custom MACs but it's so strange

18:03 <robimarko> They are basically patching the returned WMI result

18:04 <robimarko> Faking that it returned that MAC

18:04 <robimarko> I am failing to see the point

18:04 <danieli> mmm, that makes sense - well, the code itself does but not necessarily why

18:05 <robimarko> That is what I mean, why do you even need that

18:05 <robimarko> As you can change the MAC during runtime to whatever

18:05 <danieli> I came across an upstreamed patch that described some of the major differences between ath10k and ath11k, I figured it's related - see https://lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/87sgpmikne.fsf@toke.dk/t/

18:06 <danieli> what's so strange is that the ath11k-macs file is written to /lib/firmware/ and only used by the patched WMI code in the ath11k driver

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18:30 <KGB-2> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_lantiq.html has been updated. (96.2% images and 99.9% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)

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