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<dwfreed> jow: I'm not sure disabling kernel v6 would be possible, because that would still hit the issue with nft_reject_ipv6 not being built
<dwfreed> I think that's the real underlying cause of #9580; openwrt CONFIG_IPV6=n results in kernel CONFIG_IPV6=n, and then nft_reject_ipv6 doesn't get built and the build fails
<dwfreed> if you compare this line to the surrounding lines, it looks like this line is wrong, though: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/blob/8dfe69cdfc5c943f946faa873ff330b47125011d/include/netfilter.mk#L329
<stintel> oof, netfilter.mk
* stintel hits ctrl-w
<dwfreed> it's definitely wild
<jow> dwfreed: well then let's fix the dependencies
<jow> buildroot level CONFIG_IPV6 is overloaded with various meanings, interfering with kernel IPV6 in intenional and unintentional cases
<jow> besides
<jow> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.5K May 17 2022 /lib/modules/5.10.113/nft_reject_ipv6.ko
<jow> the opkg metadata to store all the optional-ipv6-induced package flavors, fine grained sub-packages and variants likely eats up more than 2.5K
<jow> and with nft it becomes increasingly unwieldy to runtime-separate ipv4 and ipv6
<jow> you'll end up with a fully ipv6 enabled nft userspace frontend and missing ipv6 kernel modules
<jow> busybox does not appear to honour CONFIG_IPv6 either
<jow> it really is just a messy knob to disable a random subset of IPv6 support and/or dependencies
<jow> dwfreed: so that was four and a half years ago
<dwfreed> I think ultimately you're going to end up finding you can't turn off kernel CONFIG_IPV6 either without breaking this, though
<dwfreed> and 4/32 has been deprecated since 19.07 at least, right? so honestly I'd say they're on their own
<jow> iirc netfilter.mk includes the *kernel* .config
<jow> so it could refer to CONFIG_IPV6 (which would point to the *kernel level* setting) to inhibit the packaging of *_ipv6.ko
<dwfreed> see the commit I linked from you :)
<dwfreed> you would have to try to bring back something like https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/42a3c6465a230a4e03f2a185f4db5ac57b89f673
<jow> yeah, iirc there was no way to express it in terms of opkg/buildroot dependencies
<dwfreed> but done properly
<jow> but you could simply build empty *_ipv6.ko
<jow> erm empty kmod-whatever-ipv6
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<f0g> Hi all. After reading the implementation of uci system, I have a question about the design. Why uci system write changes to /tmp/.uci/<package> instead of write to the /etc/config/<package> file directly? It looks like 'commit' is a useless step for generating config files for services.
<f0g> To update a service, I need 'uci set <package>...' first, and then 'uci commit <package>', excuting '/etc/init.d/<package>'
<jayk> its a symlink
<jayk> perhaps yooooounix isnt for you, try luci!
<f0g> jayk: do you talk to me?
<mrkiko> I have an HLOS partition dump for ipq4019 (gl-b2200). I know there are multiple DTS files in the image, for different models. I don't remember how to extract them
<mrkiko> I mean - I have a dts snippet like this http://ix.io/4kxy
<mrkiko> wonder how I can decode the embedded dtb
<mrkiko> ok, done... wow, got 13 dtb files :D
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<KGB-1> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_sunxi.html has been updated. (0% images and 99.6% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)
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<dhewg> jow: do you have time to check the remaining iwinfo patches? While I recently added 3 more, there's not much left. It would be nice to have luci support 6g out of the box
<dhewg> or just ack them and I'll poke someone else then, that'll be fine as well
<dhewg> (got a yelling kid in the bg too ;)
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<f00b4r0> ynezz: hi, just curious: any hope to test buildbot changes soon?
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<mrkiko> I'm back :D I would need some help
<mrkiko> needing proper nandsim parameters to emulate a nand device which is 128 MiB in size, has a 128 KiB blocksize, a 2048 page size and 128 OOB size
<mrkiko> for now googling wasn't so useful, because I guess I should find a way to calculate the proper IDs to pass to nandsim
<robimarko> Its easier to just find the NAND model you dumped from
<robimarko> And read the ID-s from the datasheet
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<mrkiko> robimarko: mhm, from the datasheet would be a problem for me ... or at least sometimes it can be. Now I am looking if there is a way to let the kernel tell me or maybe just look in the source code
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<robimarko> mrkiko: Well, that is gonna be way easiert than trying to figure out the ONFI spec
<mrkiko> robimarko: sure. My problem is sometimes I have a hard time understanding how informations are laid in PDF files. Luckily most datasheet contain also ascii data and not only images, otherwise reading them with screen reader becomes harder
<robimarko> mrkiko: Yeah, I get your issue
<robimarko> As most datasheets have completely random layout
<robimarko> If you know the NAND model, I can get the info from the datasheet for you
<robimarko> Cause, 128 OOB is rare so I dont know any model on top of head
<mrkiko> robimarko: I know it's gigadevice, GD5F1GQ1UC
<robimarko> mrkiko: Oh, SPI-NAND
<mrkiko> robimarko: yes
<robimarko> Yeah, I dont think that is gonna work with nandsim
<mrkiko> robimarko: what I am trying to do here is read the UBI file of the original firmware to understand better how they handle the LTE modem... and to do so what I was doing is follow the "classic" nandsim approach + modprobe ubi mtd= ... but I need to simulate e alfsh with the same characteristics of course
<robimarko> mrkiko: There is no need to bother emulating NAND then
<robimarko> Why not just extract the UBI images with ubireader?
<mrkiko> well, because I fail to compile python-lzo at the moment
<robimarko> What distro are you using?
<robimarko> Almost all ship python-lzo already
<robimarko> Or you can just use pio
<robimarko> *pip
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<mrkiko> Archlinux. You have a point. Using pip now, and all went well so far.
<robimarko> You can also install the ubireader with pip
<robimarko> That is how I have done it and its been a crazy good tool so far
<mrkiko> robimarko: I knew about it, but in the past I had problems with it and resortd to the nandsim ... but giving it another try
<mrkiko> at least this is what I remember but who knows
<mrkiko> robimarko: however, if the kernel knows these IDs, it would be very useful to have them available somwehwere
<mrkiko> [mrkiko@rivendell saponetta]$ ubireader_extract_files openwrt-22.03.2-ipq40xx-generic-glinet_gl-ap1300-squashfs-nand-factory.ubi
<mrkiko> UBIFS Fatal: Super block error: Wrong node type.
<mrkiko> [mrkiko@rivendell saponetta]$
<mrkiko> openwrt-22.03.2-ipq40xx-generic-glinet_gl-ap1300-squashfs-nand-factory.ubi: UBI image, version 1\012- HIT archive data\012- data
<mrkiko> ok, works with extract_images
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<mrkiko> robimarko: wow, it works great and is able to scrape ubi out of qsdk images
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<mrkiko> robimarko: thanks
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<oliv3r[m]> So I finally figure dout, that we cannot use NO_EXCEPT_FILL with our current bootloader setup. However, it (seems for now) that this is the only option holding us back from using GENERIC_MIPS_KERNEL. Is it worth-while to investigate this deeper, and try to converge on the generic kernel, or 'screw it, just define a custom target, there's tons already'. I think moving this flag out of the generic kernel config, (or make it something
<oliv3r[m]> fancyfull might be worth while ...) thoughts?
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<robimarko> Anybody knows where I could rent MacOS VPS per hour?
<Habbie> github actions has macos runners, depending on your needs, that might be something, or not
<robimarko> That is what I am trying now but its painfully slow
<robimarko> They are out of stock
<Habbie> ugh
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<f00b4r0> robimarko: depending on your needs a vm might be an option. IIRC macOS can be run in e.g. VirtualBox
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<robimarko> f00b4r0: I basically just need a way to test macOS changes for OpenWrt in a faster way than waiting hour and half for GH to finish
<stintel> get a mac mini :P
<jayk> macos can barely run in virtualbox
<jayk> better to use vmware workstation pro with DrDonk unlocker
<f00b4r0> jayk: ok. I wouldn't know, I run native ;D
* stintel just got an apple tv 4k 128GB to be able to upgrade his eve thread devices to the firmware with matter support
<stintel> this requires said apple tv or homepod with thread support
<stintel> I'm hoping to figure out how to trick the eve app into believing there is an apple thread border router in the network to do the upgrade without an actual apple thread border router
<stintel> aka next rabbit hole
<f00b4r0> stintel: at some point I start wondering what's the ratio of time saved thanks to your setup vs time spent getting things to work xD
* f00b4r0 hides
<stintel> :P
<stintel> this thread/matter stuff is just too new
<stintel> I could just upgrade both my eve devices with the apple tv and be done with it but where's the fun in that
<f00b4r0> bleeding edge got you ;)
<stintel> as usual ;)
<jayk> f00b4r0: thats the way to go!
<robimarko> stintel: I strongly dislike Apple
<robimarko> So no way I am buying anything, especially not to run OpenWrt CI
<stintel> saying I strongly dislike apple would be an understatement ;)
<Habbie> yet you keep giving them money
<stintel> the ipad and the apple tv are for the greater good
<stintel> however I'm still considering an m2 macbook air because everything just sucks
<Habbie> your girlfriend?
<stintel> well the apple tv will be a stop-gap solution until I introduce a "home" VLAN and SSID for her to connect to so she can access the other smart/multimedia/... stuff
<Habbie> hehe
<stintel> but no mostly because currently I need it to continue my experimenting with thread+matter (need to be able to upgrade my eve devices)
<robimarko> We all spend decent money on experimenting, but I aint funding Apple
<robimarko> Dont really have a "favorite" company
<hauke> robimarko: you by QCA stuff ;-)
<jayk> apple is probably heavily infiltrated like twtr
<jayk> but i dont mind using an unlocker on linux or windows to use macos/xcode to unlock or turn on dev mode on their devices
<minimal> jayk: infiltrated?
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<robimarko> hauke: Yeah, cant avoid them for now
<robimarko> But I have MTK stuff as well
<robimarko> Heck even RTL
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<jayk> minimal: backdoored for the dark side
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<mrkiko> so, in general i'm kind of pragmatic. but the fact I would need a signed iboot to use my hardware makes me little bit scared. What if they change their minds at some point ? Ok, I can avoid updating, but it would make me feel little bit ... pressured.
<mrkiko> that said, I would avoid funding Apple if at all possible for their behaviour. due to how well they implement accessibility features tough, I end up using their devices (mostly phone)
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* f00b4r0 is a happy user of Stuff That Just Works™ and thinks there isn't a better alternative, would have made the switch otherwise
<Znevna> what stuff just works
<f00b4r0> the fruity kind.
<f00b4r0> stintel: in other news, I had the immense surprise of receiving today what is probably my first ever DMARC detailed failure report (ruf) following my last email to the m-l, which I sent from the wrong address.
<f00b4r0> i think it's due to the list breaking my domain's signature (as expected), so the report is relatively useless, as you'd expect
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<slh> robimarko: you can also run MacOS under qemu/kvm, never looked any deeper into it, but it works
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<slh> robimarko: https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM/ as example
<robimarko> slh: that looks promising
<jayk> cloud is the way to go
<jayk> its a pain in the ass to get macos to work in qemu, vbox, or vmware
<slh> jayk: I played with it for around a day, yes, there were some quirks about orchestrating qemu properly, but it works (I never looked deeper into giving it a correct/ accepted Apple ID though and lost interest very quickly, not my kind of OS)
<jayk> i found less support for qemu
<jayk> virtualbox was slow af
<jayk> vmware works but you got to add a lot of tweaks
<jayk> but i was able to sign into the apple store, plug in my iphone, and run xcode with vmware workstation pro
<robimarko> jayk: you know where you can rent a VPS by hour?
<jayk> not really
<jayk> free trial maybe
<zorun> most VPS providers bill by the hour
<robimarko> Only found one, and its gonna take multiple days for it to be active
<robimarko> zorun: Not macOS ones
<zorun> ah
<robimarko> I want to fix the macOS tools CI workflow
<robimarko> But I dont own nor I want any Apple devices so GH actions is the only way
<zorun> Scaleway has a bare-metal M1 offering, not sure it's available by the hour
<robimarko> They are out of stock
<robimarko> As its the only one per hour
<zorun> do you need to be root? if not, you can request an account on https://cfarm.tetaneutral.net/ and use gcc104
<jayk> it would have been cheaper to buy a macbook than all the time i spent trying to get things to work
<robimarko> zorun: Yes, cause I need to be able to run the GH runner
<jayk> and keep the filesystem HFS so i could disable sip using csrutil and spctl
<zorun> is MacOS officially supported to build openwrt? afaik it was always a best-effort thing only
<jayk> i think its possible
<jayk> but with a lot of work
<jayk> homebrew?
<jayk> i spent a day building a toolchain to compile openwrt for my linksys and netgear equipment
<jayk> but i used ubuntu
<zorun> my point is: why bother fixing things on MacOS if you don't need it directly and it's not officially supported?
<jayk> yeah
<zorun> "some users have positive experience with WSL and macOS, but those are not officially supported."
<jayk> i wouldnt ever go the macos route to do that
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<robimarko> zorun: I personally dont need it to work, but we have CI test for it and I want to fix that
<robimarko> No idea why, other than its annoying me
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<f00b4r0> robimarko: if you had a suitable PC build to spare, I could send you an image that would boot into OSX :)
* f00b4r0 runs a few hackintoshes
<f00b4r0> robimarko: also, glad to see we found another point to agree on (re coreutils ;)
<stintel> r17753-163df797f6
<stintel> damn that's old
<f00b4r0> old? Seems newer than 21.02, or I'm not understanding these tags
<stintel> we're >20000 agtm
<stintel> iirc
<f00b4r0> OpenWrt 21.02.5, r16688-fa9a932fdb
<f00b4r0> that's my router here
<stintel> ancient
<f00b4r0> heh
<f00b4r0> I keep forgetting. "Bleeding edge" xD
<stintel> ;)
<Mangix> zorun: nbd uses macOS therefore it must be supported.
<stintel> f00b4r0: I think I reverted the dmarc stuff for my @linu-ipv6.be domain
<f00b4r0> stintel: sounds smart. I had forgotten I still had a ruf setting on this particular domain
<f00b4r0> that really is the first and only ruf report I ever received. I didn't even think those existed. Now I know they're real :)
<stintel> gonna be hooking up the apple tv and my ipad to a beryl and run some tcpdump writing pcap to sdcard hoping I can capture everything I need :)
<Habbie> beryl?
<Habbie> ack
<Habbie> cute
<stintel> it's a nice device
<Habbie> ships with openwrt 9.5 i presume? :D
<stintel> no idea :P
<stintel> r17753-163df797f6 is what is currently on it
<stintel> this hash isn't available in openwrt.git
<stintel> so most likely something from my staging tree
<f00b4r0> oh 256MB RAM, that's cool
<stintel> that's more than my main APs :)
<f00b4r0> that's more than any of my openwrt devices, except M300 :)
<stintel> funny how MTK does wifi6 fine with 128MB RAM and QCA can't even handle it with 256MB
<Mangix> That is very nice that they post wireguard benchmarks
<f00b4r0> Mangix: it is but i find the number oddly underwhelming
<Mangix> How so?
<f00b4r0> i was expecting higher throughput
<Mangix> On an embedded device?
<f00b4r0> I have casually reached 60Mbps on ath79 devices
<Mangix> Well, ath79 devices typically have higher performance per clock
<Mangix> ath79 vs ath24
<Mangix> Erm mips
<f00b4r0> ok, but the mt7621 is a quad-core cpu
<KGB-2> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_bcm47xx.html has been updated. (100.0% images and 99.6% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)
<f00b4r0> s/quad/dual/
<Mangix> No?
<Mangix> Yes
<Mangix> But it has lower L1 and L2 cache
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<f00b4r0> i'm not sure how that would significantly affect wg performance?
<Mangix> the more data fits in L1 and L2 the faster it is?
<Mangix> That way RAM doesn't get used.
<f00b4r0> err... no.
<f00b4r0> anyway, i should do some benchmarking. I have a DIR-860L hooked to a 1000/300 link, so it shouldn't be too hard for me to verify :)
<Mangix> Anyway, if mt7621 is too slow, overclock to 1.1ghz
<robimarko> f00b4r0: I aint that invested to repurpose HW for hackintosh
<robimarko> Yeah, requiring OpenSSL just for base64 is crazy
<f00b4r0> robimarko: ok; the offer is there. In fact I might be able to set you up on one of my machines if your requirements aren't too exotic. But that'll have to wait, they're all powered off atm.
<robimarko> stintel: What MTK device with AX and 128MB of RAM you have
<stintel> eap615-wall
<robimarko> Oh, good old MT7621
<Mangix> Old and reliable apparently
<f00b4r0> i have a yuncore AX820 and yes, it seems to do AX "just fine" (at least according to client)
<robimarko> f00br40: Dont bother, I will give it couple more tries in GH actions
<stintel> the apple tv remote with usb-c charging port is cute
<f00b4r0> robimarko: re base64, I was tempted to suggest packaging a bespoke decoder. Should be a few hundred lines tops. Heck, I bet ChatGPT can write one ;D
<robimarko> f00br40: I was thinking of suggesting the same
<robimarko> But since its quite literaly just base64 and no post processing its kind of overkill
<f00b4r0> oh, that's even easier
<f00b4r0> I wonder if it could simply be done in shell then
<Mangix> Apparently base32 is a thing
<slh> well, I was suggesting openssl just because it's already in the main repo, so no additional maintenance at all
<Habbie> and base36, and base36hex.. terrible things
<Mangix> LOL
<Habbie> or was it base32hex
<slh> I did use it that way myself for some other tasks (encoding the certificates for strongswan) in the past, just because it was there
<robimarko> slh: Yeah, but forces you to include openssl just for base64 sake
<Mangix> base32. Apparently all the 2 factor auth URIs use base32
<slh> sure, it's not nice - but not an issue with 4 GB eMMC either
<robimarko> Agreed, but its really an overkill considering that even busybox has base64 applet
<robimarko> But its not enabled by default
<f00b4r0> robimarko: actually, I'm pretty sure it can be done with awk
<f00b4r0> robimarko: we're going to get back to busybox applets that are or aren't enabled by default. Remember the telnet can of worms? ;P
<robimarko> Yeah, I am not sure we want to open a new one
<robimarko> Can of worms that is
<f00b4r0> *nod*
* f00b4r0 loves awk
<robimarko> Hehe, nice find on AWK decorer
<robimarko> Now, the question is if its compatible with AWK we use
<f00b4r0> give me sed and awk and I'll build the world :)
<robimarko> Its from Busybox isnt it?
<Habbie> is awk a default busybox applet on openwrt?
<Mangix> Yes
<robimarko> Yep, looks to be from Busybox
<Habbie> indeed
<f00b4r0> there doesn't seem to be anything fancy in that code. It's a lookup table and some arithmetics
<f00b4r0> it's pretty clean
<robimarko> Heck, it looks simpler than C implementation
<stintel> busybo bump is to the version with the new urandom seem stuff by zx2c4 ? do we need to make some changes to start using that?
<Habbie> root@aa1d73a31a3e:~# awk -f base64decode.awk
<Habbie> Zm9v
<Habbie> foo
<Habbie> works on openwrt/rootfs from docker hub, where /usr/bin/awk -> ../../bin/busybox
<robimarko> Perfect then
<f00b4r0> Habbie: yeah, i'd have been very surprised if it didn't work
<Habbie> f00b4r0, ack - i had no idea what to expect :)
<f00b4r0> Mangix: nice, but rather bigger. Also probably much slower :)
<Mangix> Yep
<stintel> guess it's good timing to test 5.15 on ramips with the beryl
<stintel> I forgot to do it on my U6Lite in Belgium
<stintel> and don't wanna risk it now that I'm back home
<f00b4r0> Habbie: in fact that code has apparently been checked on busybox awk: "# We cannot output a NUL character using BusyBox AWK. See:"
<Habbie> oh neat
<f00b4r0> I'd say let's use that. I'll reply on m-l
<robimarko> stintel: Back to slavland (couldnt resist)
<robimarko> f00b4r0: agreed
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<stintel> robimarko: да!
<Habbie> aaaaaaaaaaa
<robimarko> stintel: luckily I know some cyrillic
<Habbie> i learned some more cyrillic today
<Habbie> because stintel said this in another channel earlier :D
<robimarko> I find it easy to read
<robimarko> But writing is a whole new level
<Habbie> i've learned that if you just know the alphabet, you can pronounce many things, and many words make sense just because you know other languages
<robimarko> Yeah, especially if languages are similar
<Habbie> i also learned that knowing a bit of greek alphabet is a good start :)
<Habbie> as for what stintel just said, i wasn't aware that first letter looked like that - once i looked that up, i understood :D
<robimarko> For me its great that whole region (With exception of Hungary) speaks rather similar language
<f00b4r0> Habbie: you should try some водка then :)
<Habbie> f00b4r0, i managed to guess what that was!
<f00b4r0> same letter ;)
<Habbie> yes
<robimarko> Universal sign in the slav world
<Habbie> and spanish is weird with b and v
<f00b4r0> robimarko: lol
<robimarko> f00b4r0: Though rakija is more popular in my parts
<robimarko> Probably schnaps in german/english
<f00b4r0> :)
<f00b4r0> meanwhile, I should try to catch some "ЗЗЗ"s, and call it a night
<f00b4r0> (surprising how some Cyrillic characters look like numbers)
<robimarko> Same here, surprisingly long day for weekend
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