ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<MrCooper>
immibis ids1024 orowith2os[m]: a rootless WaylandX wouldn't make much more sense than Xorg supporting Wayland, for all the reasons Wayland was created separate from X in the first place
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<vincejv>
anyone using hexchat on kde wayland? i cant get the icon to showup in task manager, but the system tray icon seems to be there
<vincejv>
also some apps are using the generic wayland icon in the task manager instead of their own icon
<dubiousness>
vincejv: Hexchat starts without issue on Plasema 5 for me
<dubiousness>
I get the generic wayland icon only with some edge-case Wine installations, which might be something to do with xwayland
<dubiousness>
Hexchat does appear to be using xwayland by default
<vincejv>
do u have the icon for hexchat in the task manager? what i meant task manager is the taskbar/panel
<dubiousness>
When I start Hexchat yes
<vincejv>
it seems to have been fixed after logging out and logging back in
<vincejv>
oh wait i think i know the issue, the taskbar icon disappears after when i hide/unhide the hexchat window thru the system tray icon
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<orowith2os[m]>
MrCooper: not quite sure I get what you mean
<orowith2os[m]>
it would allow Wayland apps to work on non-Xorg setups as well, like the BSDs, where they have their own X server
<orowith2os[m]>
(and can't be arsed to strap together everything for a full-on Wayland compositor)
<orowith2os[m]>
and I'd love to see more apps (that don't need the full capabilities of X) dropping X code in favor of Wayland and a theoretical WaylandX
<orowith2os[m]>
(what would a rootfull WaylandX be anyways???)
<kennylevinsen>
orowith2os[m]: it would solely serve for making Wayland-only apps run on X-only setups, as it would not show any of the Wayland benefits. There aren't many such apps yet, and at least FreeBSD runs Wayland so I imagine it'll spread
<orowith2os[m]>
having a reason for apps to be Wayland-only seems like a good starting point for creating a WaylandX
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<orowith2os[m]>
looking at things, as I'm told, there's two reasons for a WaylandX: scaling, and sandbox security
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<orowith2os[m]>
the native system being on X doesn't matter when sandboxed clients interact with your windowing system by way of Wayland
<immibis>
MrCooper: and why wouldn't Xorg supporting Wayland make sense?
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