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<steev> hm, that seems slow, but mine is off at the moment so i can't check the time it takes me
<steev> assuming you're just using distro_defconfig?
<rfs613> yep, exactly per the readme ;-)
* rfs613 does not expect to build kernels often... it was more of a curiosity to see how practical it is.
<steev> the only chip that really approaches/passes x86 is the m1 right now
<steev> it ain't gonna beat a thread ripper though
<HdkR> Technically since AMD hasn't released a Zen3 threadripper, the M1 beats current thread ripper in single threaded tasks :P
<rfs613> so the really funny part about today's success with wifi on my c630... is that i have a shiny new x86 laptop arriving tomorrow...
<rfs613> i guess its kind of murphy's law... right now the c630 is behaving fantastic ;-)
<steev> the funny part is having these laptops... and no where to go
<steev> but my pto request was approved today, so my ticket purchase isn't gonna go to waste
<steev> i also have more powerful laptops, but still prefer the c630 just because it's so light
<steev> rfs613: fwiw, re: losing touchpad after suspend, sometimes if you just close the c630 and open it back up, you get it back too, so there's that
<rfs613> good to know, thanks
<steev> also just checked mine too and yeah, roughly 51 minutes
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<HdkR> A good presentation at HotChips today about Neoverse N2. Wish we would get real laptop SoCs with it :(
<steev> ask them for it
<HdkR> *Wiggles fingies*
<HdkR> Gimme please
<robclark> let me just punch in a few numbers into my SoC-o-matic... oh, wait..
<HdkR> Who knew that SoC creation was so easy
<robclark> heheh
<robclark> if only
<robclark> file bugz on gitlab
<HdkR> But that requires getting a capture, that's a lot of work :D
<robclark> well, I mean, I guess a capture isn't required but having a way to repro a bug does increase the odds of someone doing something about it
<robclark> (ie. get a capture)
<HdkR> Difficult repro steps sadly reduce the chance of someone tinkering with it. I'll probably get a capture soonish
<robclark> captures that repro are defn useful considering that your setup might be hard to replicate ;-)
<HdkR> I mostly just need to document how to get a capture for myself. I can never remember the magic environment variables to do it
<HdkR> There we go, wrote some documentation to make my life easier
<robclark> that is why I write (and also why I forget to write) docs.. so I can remember things :-P
<HdkR> Documentation where I can copy and paste old commands is the best
<HdkR> Steam updates, breaks something, copy and paste commands and it works again, yay
<robclark> documentation for me, when it comes to just remembering a sequence of cmds and/or env vars, tends to turn into scripts for me
<robclark> see `~/bin/hud.sh` for how to drive GALLIUM_HUD :-P
<HdkR> oh, I have that slapped in to a FEX configuration file. So I know if an application is running under FEX or not :D
<HdkR> Can set environment variables independently of what is provided in the real envirnoment
<HdkR> Oop! It's not a Freedreno bug. It's a FEX bug :D
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<robclark> HdkR: well, you got the first letter correct at least :-P
<HdkR> :D
<macc24> what is the difference between freedreno and fex anyway
<robclark> it's all just a bunch of codes :-P
<macc24> freedreno's got a compiler - fex has a compiler, freedreno runs on arm64 machines - fex runs on arm64 machines
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<HdkR> FEX runs under an x86-64 environment, Freedreno runs under an x86-64 environment
<HdkR> Basically the same
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<rfs613> well, new x86 laptop arrived a few hours ago, but I haven't had any desire to open the box yet ;-)
<steev> what did you get?
<steev> re: weight... i really like the lenovo x1 carbons as they're lightweight, but pricey
<HdkR> Dell XPS 13 is also pretty good in that regard
<robclark> as far as x86 laptops goes, xps13 is a pretty good one
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<gwolf> I had a XPS 13, many years ago (~2007 IIRC). It was a sweet machine, but as heavy as it gets
<HdkR> 13 years of innovation lets them change that
<gwolf> I guess!
<macc24> i'm actually piecing together a thinkpad t400 for all my x86 needs lol
<macc24> i need to be able to use ms access to pass next grade and i am not risking failing if average grade is 0.08 lower than i thought it would be(i promise this happened)
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<rfs613> steev: you guessed it, x1 carbon, i7, 16gb
<steev> nice
<steev> which display though?
<steev> i ended up selling mine because i got the 4K display and it ghosts so much :(
<steev> and lenovo considers it "fine"
<rfs613> 1920x1200
<rfs613> 4k is wasted at 14" size, i can't see the pixels anyhow
<steev> i more got it for linux testing of 4K
<steev> but with the ghosting... just no
<rfs613> i leave that to the kids ;-)
<steev> it's part of my job :P
<rfs613> fair enough...
<HdkR> <3 my XPS 13's 4k screen
<gwolf> uff
<gwolf> FWIW, I really enjoy having a FHD (1920x1080) laptop instead of the 1366x768 I had until now... that feels cramped
<gwolf> but yes, 13"/14" is a bit too much for that
<gwolf> Now OTOH, for my desktop... I love my 3840x2160 monitor :-]
<steev> yeah, 1366 just doesn't cut it these days
<steev> unless you don't multitask
<rfs613> yeah, that's one of the reasons I stopped using my good old x201 laptop
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<gwolf> Even using i3 / sway... my thoughts are too large for the screen :-]
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<steev> i threw some things that are coming down the stable 5.13 pipeline into my 5.12 kernel and pushed it
<steev> have tested it here, nothing seems to break at least
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<gwolf> steev: I understand Debian's 5.13 kernel is in experimental, and probably it will enter unstable soonish
<steev> gwolf: yeah but 5.13 on the c630 has an issue that someone is still in the middle of tracking down
<gwolf> steev: I guess installing a mainline kernel will clobber some of your additions. Should I mark the kernel as a "hold" package? Or do you expect mainline to work in the C630 decently (FSVO)?
<steev> well, it doesn't install linux-image-arm64 so it shouldn't pull in the debian kernel
<steev> once the fbcon issue is tracked down and a patch provided and i test it, i'll probably fork the debian linux repo and apply it
<steev> along with the other c630 patches
<gwolf> OK, great to hear this!
<steev> the reason i've stuck with 5.12 instead of on 5.11 is because of networking changes that came in 5.12 that i want for kali
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<steev> oof
<steev> just noticed debian leaves it at config_hz_250
<steev> it's 2021 :(
<steev> shawnguo: have you had a chance to go back and take a look at why enabling the crypto test causes kernel panic?
<robclark> hmm, this is a new one (after rebasing kernel).. anyone seen this before:
<robclark> aarch64-linux-gnu-ld: .init.data has both ordered [`__patchable_function_entries' in init/main.o] and unordered [`.meminit.data' in mm/sparse.o] sections
<steev> i have not see that
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<steev> gwolf: ugh, looking at the debian config there are so so many qcom options not enabled that will need to be
<gwolf> steev: Usually the kernel maintainers are quite amenable to adopting config changes (specially if they can be expressed in a modular way)
<gwolf> and specially if they are justified
<steev> yeah, i know they are but, they are not a fan of anything that isn't already upstreamed (in -next)
<steev> hopefully bamse gets permission to post the battery stuff for sc8180x and we can do battery stuff for c630 properly after
<steev> and get it posted up and accepted
<gwolf> right - I meant because you were "complaining" about config_hz and things like that..
<steev> oh, that... yeah
<steev> those options are =y afaik, there's no runtime choosing
<steev> i thought, at one point in time, it could
<steev> or maybe it's coming in 5.14
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