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<lina> alyssa: Yes, it ignores writes
<lina> And yeah, I was thinking of just adding it to the device params so mesa can optimize based on it
<lina> jannau: I haven't stress tested 13.2 so it's totally possible that is broken in new and exciting ways ^^
<lina> Plasma going back usually means kwin_wayland crashed and restarted, the recovery from that is... not great
<lina> You'd have to get some stderr output from that to debug it
<lina> *black
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<alyssa> lina: awesome :)
<alyssa> btw what's your plan for the next [short term]?
<lina> M2 Pro/Max support and keep the review emails going ^^
<alyssa> ah
<alyssa> no mesa review?
<lina> That too!
<alyssa> :-D
<lina> Mesa sends me emails ^^
<alyssa> ahaha
<alyssa> fair
<lina> Do you think it's fair to release this at this point even if there are some weirdo issues we can't easily reproduce? It's edge, so... at this point I think it's fair to let users figure out the consistent repros, I'm sure they can test a lot crazier stuff than we can ^^
<lina> There's probably some WSI thing missing still but... that's really hard to catch without a consistent repro...
<lina> (And at that point it could be app bugs even)
<alyssa> idk
<alyssa> and don't particularly have the bandwidth to burn on caring right now
<alyssa> so far it sounds like M1 + 12.3 is rock solid at any rate
<alyssa> M2 and 13.x is not (yet) my problem :-D
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<lina> jannau mentioned pink squares on startup which I think I've seen too, and also those kwin crashes are undebugged...
<lina> I'm not worried about 13.2, that's for later
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<jannau> yes, no need to worry about 13.2 for now. users are not able to run that yet and dcp on 13.2 needs testing as well
<jannau> I see the pinkl boxes only on m2 with the same kernel and mesa
<jannau> I'll look into the kwin crashes later
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<jannau> lina: the black plasma/wayland desktop is not a kwin crash. plasmashell itself crashes
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<jannau> looks like a race during startup, not reproducible with executing plasmashell manualy in the same session
<jannau> I'd say probably not gpu related
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<jannau> it doesn't crash but terminates itself after "The Wayland connection experienced a fatal error: Bad file descriptor". I don't see how that can be directly caused by the gpu driver
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<lina> I've seen plasmashell crashes related to GPU driver issues, but it could be unrelated I guess...
<jannau> do you see how EBADF on the wayland socket could be gpu related while kwin survives?
<jannau> I've just reproduced the issue with simpledrm
<lina> jannau: simpledrm+llvmpipe?
<lina> wouldn't you get EBADF if kwin crashes and restarts?
<jannau> yes, but kwin doesn't crash. I see no indication of it crashing and it still has the same PID as it was started with
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