04:47 <Glanzmann> mps / kov / joske: Does audio still work for you? I rebooted twice, everything looks like it should work (alsamixer, pavucontrol) but no sound.

04:49 <Glanzmann> povik: dmesg: https://pbot.rmdir.de/1f1JjxhBMvxc6kkeM5qREw GIT for kernel building: https://git.zerfleddert.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi/m1-debian/blob_plain/HEAD:/bootstrap.sh

07:03 <mps> Glanzmann: yes, audio works on MBP

07:05 <Glanzmann> Strange.

07:05 <Glanzmann> For me it looks like everyone works, but it doesn't.

07:07 <mps> Glanzmann: I have sound on headphone, not on speakers ofc

07:12 <povik> Glanzmann: hmm, could that be after you applied cpufreq patches?

07:28 <Glanzmann> povik: I had that problem before but not that consistently

07:29 <Glanzmann> povik: If you want you can try my tree: https://git.zerfleddert.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi/m1-debian/blob_plain/refs/heads/master:/bootstrap.sh

07:29 <Glanzmann> I just wanted to let you know, maybe I also do something stupid.

07:29 <Glanzmann> mps: CAn you send me your current kernel config?

07:32 <povik> seems like that one issue with cs42l83 that we have, that could be timing-related

07:32 <povik> so the symptoms might make sense

07:37 <joske> Glanzmann, yes audio jack working here

07:43 <mps> Glanzmann: here it is http://ix.io/3PP0

07:44 <Glanzmann> mps: Thank you.

07:51 <Glanzmann> povik: I'm afraid to ask, but do I need these modules? CONFIG_SND_SOC_DMIC=m CONFIG_SND_SOC_ES8328=m CONFIG_SND_SOC_ES8328_I2C=m CONFIG_SND_SOC_ES8328_SPI=m

07:54 <David[m]123456789> @jmr2 Do you have different UUID between 1TR and your startup disk?

08:01 <povik> Glanzmann: you don't

08:18 <Glanzmann> I see. :-(

08:30 <Glanzmann> povik: Sound works for me. I think the reason was that I had muted it in macos. But it might also be that it was musted pulseaudio, I try to reprodcue later.

08:36 <povik> > I think the reason was that I had muted it in macos.

08:36 <povik> that wouldn't make sense

13:18 <as400[m]> marcan: I'm reading this hackernews thread. Incredible...

13:18 <as400[m]> ignorance is a bliss

13:18 <marcan> as400[m]: being knowledgeable about a subject really makes it obvious how much nonsense gets said there...

13:19 <as400[m]> Well, I'd say data integrity is like basics nowadays.

13:20 <as400[m]> You don't need a lot of technical knowledge to understand consequences

13:20 <marcan> yesterday someone said B is a dissonant note. When pressed, they said "in the key of C" (as if that key is vastly more popular). I said B is literally in the C major scale and part of some of the most important chords in that scale. They insisted B and C together are dissonant. Guess they've never heard of CMaj7. I guess all jazz and most popular music is dissonant these days...

13:23 <j`ey> maybe their piano was just out of tune :P

13:24 <TheLink> Perhaps it was a German who meant Bb by saying b 😛

13:24 <TheLink> B is H here

13:25 <TheLink> And Bb is B

14:03 <kettenis> j'ey: a piano is out of tune by definition!

15:04 <Tom[m]1234> hello

15:04 <Tom[m]1234> when is the release date of asahi linux do you reckon?

15:06 <Dcow[m]> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/%22When-will-Asahi-Linux-be-done%3F%22

15:53 <kov> Tom[m]1234, when it's ready™

15:53 <kov> jokes aside, I think it's pretty hard to know how long it'll be before it's deemed good enough for an alpha, but there will be a progress report soon, maybe it will give us an idea, Tom[m]1234

15:54 <kov> there are always weird things appearing out of nowhere that take time, like the NVME stuff that is causing big discussions right now

16:05 <jmr2> David[m]123456789: Running the installer from MacOS, I have the same value for Boot UUID, Boot VGID and Default boot VGID, and a different one in the partition list.

16:05 <jmr2> When running from recoveryOS, everything is the same except for Boot UUID, which has a 3rd, distinct value.

16:05 <jmr2> I did email the logs & DT to marcan, but didn't try much past that. For now, I'm keeping the machine mostly untouched, in case he wants more data or that I test a fix.

16:18 <David[m]123456789> jmr2: same for me

16:19 <jmr2> David[m]123456789: how much changes did you make regarding the partitions so far? Or full MacOS reinstalls / "erase all contents & settings"?

16:20 <David[m]123456789> none

16:20 <jmr2> Only one shrunk to make space for Asahi?

16:20 <David[m]123456789> * none apart from alocating space for Linux

16:21 <jmr2> OK. So it might be more related to the multiple admin accounts then. Thanks for the info.

16:22 <j`ey> David[m]123456789: so you did 2 full installs of macOS at some point?

16:32 <jmr2> j`ey: do you mean reinstalls, or side-by-side installs?

16:34 <j`ey> jmr2: not sure, they said they did/had 2 installs, so trying to understand

16:36 <jmr2> OK. I know side-by-side isn't an issue, I had both 11.6 and 12.2 installed and was able to run the installer. Not fully sure regarding full reinstalls, but I probably did that a few times months ago too.

16:36 <j`ey> full reinstall = completely wipe and install?

16:36 <j`ey> because that should be ok too

16:37 <jmr2> That part is fuzzy. I didn't do that recently.

16:54 <David[m]123456789> j`ey: I skipped migration assistant when I first used it then I tried to migrate which partially failed but leaves me with my old account

17:17 <opticron> lol, /r/apple has taken the stance "data corruption/loss doesn't matter"

17:20 <tpw_rules> i wonder how many people understand that it's not just data in the last second or whatever, but you can get arbitrarily horrible filesystem and database damage

17:21 <opticron> they don't

17:27 <tpw_rules> that said, some people on that /r/apple thread seem to be attributing malice to how macos works for whatever reason

17:28 <tpw_rules> when bsd still works that way and linux did for a couple decades

18:23 <opticron> that, too