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<tpw_rules>
that big?
<tpw_rules>
you sure it's not megabits?
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<doublerye[m]>
tpw_rules: hey there! appreciate your Nix work! I've adapted it to my nixos-config. One question I had is building it (via flake setup) with 21.11 results in https://pastebin.com/36V6xTVf
<doublerye[m]>
If I use nixpkgs-unstable for everything, it works... I was trying to just use unstable for what was necessary to keep my multi-system home-manager,system-wide stuff, etc.. on 21.11. Possible?
<tpw_rules>
doublerye[m]: i hadn't tried, but it looks like that must be a new option for unstable. that's just to update m1n1 on the ESP, so you can really just comment it out and do that bit manually
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<tpw_rules>
i'm not sure i want to keep that part of it as it is anyway, it's a bit hacky. eventually things will stabilize enough that touching u-boot and m1n1 like that is no longer necessary
<tpw_rules>
but if you want to update it manually, you can build the u-boot package (though i don't believe it is exposed in the configuration by default) and cp result/u-boot.bin /boot/m1n1/boot.bin or so
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<ktz_[m]>
can someone running arch post the /etc/pacman.conf file in a pastebin please?
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<brentr123[m]>
Is there a patch to let 4k page table apps work?
<tpw_rules>
didn't you ask already? or was that someone else
<tpw_rules>
there is but you have to recompile the kernel
<brentr123[m]>
I didn’t ask no
<brentr123[m]>
Are there any directions on how to do that?
<tpw_rules>
i don't think so
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<brentr123[m]>
Wait don’t I just run
<brentr123[m]>
In terminal, “patch xxx.patch”?
<nicolas17>
and then you recompile the resulting patched source code and install the resulting kernel binary
<tpw_rules>
and get the appropriate source before then
<nicolas17>
and I don't know where that xxx.patch is
<tpw_rules>
but if you don't know how to do those other steps i don't either
<tpw_rules>
sorry
<nicolas17>
you should complain to the app devs to support 16k ;)
<tpw_rules>
yes
<tpw_rules>
16k is substantially faster, and i'm switching nixos to it as soon as x starts without exploding
<tpw_rules>
(my pr got accepted so it's just a matter of waiting now)
<brentr123[m]>
The kernel is just on the GitHub right?
<tpw_rules>
yes
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<brentr123[m]>
And the patch works only on nixos or arch also?
<tpw_rules>
arch also
<tpw_rules>
but i only know how to compile a kernel on nixos, so i can't help you with arch
<brentr123[m]>
No it’s fine I think I figured it out, seems pretty easy with just a google search
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<kaylie>
it's amazing how quickly asahi got to usable status
<rednaks[m]>
hello, in what works and doesn't it's not mentioning if the fingerprint .. is it supported ?
<rednaks[m]>
alos I wonder if it's gonna be a poor experience like all other fingerprints on linux, it's very slow ..
<kode54>
son of a
<kode54>
whose idiot idea was it to make KDE's file pickers open files on a single click instead of a double click
<kode54>
not asahi, so offtopic, but still
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<AndreaDorigo[m]>
<ktz_[m]> "can someone running arch post..." <- Is this still needed?
<ktz_[m]>
Andrea Dorigo: I got it sorted out thanks for asking :)
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<mps>
which is better to buy of new models, pro or max
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<mps>
pro costs about 4000 euros while max is nearly 5000
<mps>
both with 32GB ram and 1TB disk
<chadmed>
unless you need the extra GPU grunt (which is useless right now anyway) just get the max
<chadmed>
s/max/pro
<mps>
my son want to by one of them, he will run mostly macos on one of it
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<chadmed>
what does he want to do with it?
<mps>
and mostly for programming ios and android apps
<chadmed>
the max is an utterly useless upgrade over the pro if youre not going to be doing gpu-intensive stuff
<chadmed>
then just get the 10 core cpu pro
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<mps>
chadmed: thanks for advice
<chadmed>
:)
<mps>
ktz_[m]: last night I tested upgraded script to install on usb, works fine, i will upload it when finish morning coffee and other $day_job morning tasks
<mps>
ktz_[m]: after that I will work on installation alpine on nvme
<ktz_[m]>
mps: good morning buddy, hope you rested well, thanks for getting back to me
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<dottedmag>
chadmed: 64GB RAM, no?
* dottedmag
had to upgrade to max just for that
<chadmed>
mps said 32gb ram and 1tb ssd
<chadmed>
but yeah if you wanted 64gb obv youd go to the max
<dottedmag>
I wonder what are the workloads that require GPU of max? AAA games are... iffy. What else?
<dottedmag>
NN training, surely not?
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<chadmed>
plenty of scientific computing applications for it
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<mps>
though I updated it last night but didn't uploaded yet
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<mps>
I have problems with external usb hub and usb flash disks, trying to find right combinations which will work fine
<as400[m]>
mps: nice thing to have as a rescue
<mps>
as400[m]: I will upload new updated version later today
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<as400[m]>
mps: so if I just download this alpine img and dd it to the usb stick it should just boot, right ?
<mps>
as400[m]: right, it should, worked for me and ktz_[m]
<mps>
ofc, if you trust that I didn't put backdoor there ;)
<as400[m]>
mps: I don't trust you at all :) Will try anyway though :)
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<mps>
as400[m]: quite good for me that you don't trust random people on the net, also I don't :)
<mps>
because this there is script to make it yourself
<as400[m]>
I guess after all these months on this channel you're not so random as you were before :)
<as400[m]>
Yeah - I'm also interested in script. Will wait for you to upload
<mps>
as400[m]: I need to add and test few other scripts (helpers) to easily find ESP partition, rmmod brcmfmac, install wifi firmware from ESP, fix iwd main.conf and run it
<as400[m]>
mps: sure - no rush.
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<as400[m]>
mps: I think it's great you're doing this dev work for community. I don't see it as self promotion. Thanks for this.
<mps>
some of alpine developers are here but usually quiet
<mps>
_alice: hello ;)
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<mps>
as400[m]: thank you for nice words
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<M0n0w1c[m]>
Is there a way to get a working keyboard for uboot/grub with a mini? usb-a do not work so maybe a usb-c hub? And maybe the same for a rescue disk, to use a usb-c flash drive?
<Glanzmann>
M0n0w1c[m]: Also note, that not all keyboard work in u-boot. For example I have a keychron keyboard which does not work. But I have thinkpad keyboard which works.
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<M0n0w1c[m]>
Thank you for the links, much appreciated. I too have keyboards (mechanical) that uboot does not like, but I keep an old logitech that works.
<Glanzmann>
M0n0w1c[m]: Same for, I have mechanical keyboard in the usb-c and if i need to go to grub/u-boot I use a thinkpad keyboard with an usb-c to usb-a adapter or hub.
<dottedmag>
Glanzmann: Do you know why keychron one does not work?
<Glanzmann>
dottedmag: No, I don't.
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<Glanzmann>
dottedmag: But I don't care, because thanks to the excellent work of markan, jannau, kettenis and sven, I rarely go there. At the moment I turn on the mini when I need it and 'halt -p' it when I don't. Due to hdmi hotplug not working. But good enough for me: https://pbot.rmdir.de/AtBdG2bYFhi9KFYVGMIBxg
<Glanzmann>
Oh and I forgot to menion povik and probably a few others. :-)
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<dottedmag>
Glanzmann: No question about that, the question is what Keychron fw or U-Boot do wrong.
<dottedmag>
I remember reading about some weird "boot mode" in HID spec, however I'm not sure when does it apply.
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<jannau>
yes, it's most likely related to the boot protocol. that specifies a report format to avoid a full hid implementation in a bootloader/bios
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<jannau>
`lsusb -v` should report whether the keyboard support it: "bInterfaceSubClass 1 Boot Interface Subclass"
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<M0n0w1c[m]>
Informative, thank you.
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<joske>
I'm facing a difficult choice: I'll start a new job soon, and am offered a choice between a lenovo p14s with ryzen 7 or a macbook pro 16 M1 max
<bluetail[m]>
Lenovo
<joske>
the lenovo will come with linux pre-imaged, but I'm not sure I'll be able to asahi the mbp
<bluetail[m]>
of course not
<bluetail[m]>
good security policies make you unable to install your own os
<bluetail[m]>
always assume defaults
<joske>
the MBP will be much faster though
<joske>
if only I could stand macOS ;-)
<bluetail[m]>
and much worse laptop keys
<joske>
that's not a big deal for work I'd use my dock with my ducky keyboard anyway
<bluetail[m]>
lenovo makes the best keyboards imo
<bluetail[m]>
ic
<bluetail[m]>
first find out if you are allowed to disable security policies...
<bluetail[m]>
I dont think so!
<joske>
probably not indeed
<joske>
that's why the choice is difficult ;-)
<joske>
if that was allowed/possible, the MBP would win hands down
<M0n0w1c[m]>
Use UTM? I tried it briefly, seems to work.
<bluetail[m]>
joske: if you have the choice to use linux on lenovo, that beats apple imo
<bluetail[m]>
macOS is required for some development areas...
<bluetail[m]>
but certainly not a must
<bluetail[m]>
Audio on macOS is a bit easier to handle
<bluetail[m]>
also like
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<bluetail[m]>
presenting works more reliable
<bluetail[m]>
but still
<joske>
well their production software runs on linux, so I'd guess on macOS it probably means docker
<mps>
joske: about one month I used linux in qemu on macos, works fast, only sharing files is somewhat complicated but exfat works
<joske>
ah I wouldn't know, don't use it anymore since running asahi all the time ;-)
<j`ey>
I dont know if they fixed their bug yet
<bluetail[m]>
j`ey: parallels sucks
<bluetail[m]>
you pay for a license
<Sobek[m]>
j`ey: Is it ? Like recent regression on M1 ?
<j`ey>
Sobek[m]: yep
<bluetail[m]>
and the next moment you reinstall you have to buy a new one
<bluetail[m]>
I hated it
<j`ey>
Sobek[m]: my fault :P
<bluetail[m]>
Their customer service doesnt even refund... So make sure to purchase over the app store
<Sobek[m]>
What have you done jey ?
<mps>
if I have choice between commercial and free software I always chose free even if not in par commercial
<j`ey>
well it was my change in linux that broke things, but parallels fault for not emulating things correctly
<brentr123[m]>
j`ey: Works for me, I have windows 11 working flawlessly on it
<mps>
and thanks god, I don't use commercial software for more than 25 years :)
<Sobek[m]>
(I used to be a VMWare Fusion person (but haven't done any VM stuff since I got my M1 Max MBP))
<Sobek[m]>
(It might be a bit off topic, but I'm interested in details @jey, if you have a more detailed story (-offtopic ?))
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<joske>
so so far 2 votes for the lenovo :-/
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<Glanzmann>
joske: If you want counter vote, take mine, I would use the mbp. :-) Of course if you can't install Linux on it and want that, that is a shame.
<Glanzmann>
joske: But I used macos a lot (daily) while I was waiting for asahi to become usable, so most things you can do with macos very well, however macos slows me down due to not having access to my window manager shortcuts and certain piece of software (automounter, sshfs, virt-manager, xournal, ...)
<Glanzmann>
Also at least the battery time beats any lenovo. Especially under load.
<Glanzmann>
I would probably never buy a mbp because I don't think the price performance ratio fits, but I like the air a lot.
<joske>
Glanzmann: but also much heavier
<joske>
not that that's important to me, as this will sit on my desk 99% of the time like my current lenovo work laptop
<joske>
as I can't do anything non-work related with it anyway
<joske>
biggest problem of macOS for me is the keyboard shortcuts
<joske>
karabiner helps a little but creates its own problems sometimes
<mps>
joske: don't count me as voted but I stopped to buy intels for about 8-10 years, only use arm
<bluetail[m]>
I started to kind of 'ditch' macOS
<joske>
mps: the lenovo has ryzen ;-)
<bluetail[m]>
just have to make sure I export some data for my tax declaration :D
<mps>
joske: intel ISA I mean
<joske>
mps: well before the M1 the arm machines were quite slow no?
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<mps>
joske: no, it depends on money
<mps>
RPis are slow, that is true, but RPis are not only arm machines
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<joske>
so server hardware?
<mps>
for example my old (5-6) yearsacer R13 is quite fine and costed me less than 500 euros
<mps>
s/yearsacer/years acer/
<joske>
ah a chromebook?
<mps>
yes
<armin>
the thing is simply that you can still have major fun with a very slow computer, too :)
<joske>
I have a pi 400 ;-)
<mps>
and battery life on it in par with my mbp
<joske>
reminds me of the C64
<joske>
but it's almost unusable in 64bit desktop os
<mps>
joske: I run same software on mbp and on this old acer
<mps>
and sometimes run arm32 samsung chromebook, firefox is quite responsive on it
<armin>
dosbox alone on a very old computer is simply great fun
<mps>
I run some servers on arm32 SBCs quite fine, some are even for real time tasks
<joske>
yes, that I can believe, but for development work with big software projects...
<mps>
joske: for such things big arm boxes exists
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<joske>
well my client provides only laptop for devs, and choice is lenovo p14s or mbp 16
<mps>
alpine project got neoverse-n1 with 160 cpus and 512GB ram, quite fine for development ;)
<joske>
hahaha yes
<joske>
but that's not an option I'm given ;-)
<brudda[m]>
Grub update? It shouldn't break anything should it?
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<mps>
joske: choose whatever you think is best for you, I don't like to give advises around, just telling about my experience
<penguwin>
hello everyone 👋 I'm really tempted to spin up asahi on my m1 mac mini. Does anyone here have experience as to whether a 32:9 5120x1140 display can be operated at full resolution already? Under MacOS HDMI did not work for full resolution (even with higher-quality 2.1 cables) so I actually had to resort using a Thunderbolt <-> DisplayPort cable
<penguwin>
and from what I've read thunderbolt isn't supported yet
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<AdryzzOLEDEdition[m]>
i don't think it can without DCP and also if it doesn't work on MacOS i don't think it's going to work here, so you'll probably have to wait until thunderbolt comes around
<Glanzmann>
penguwin: jannau has an experimental branch which fits that resolution. In order to try it, you need to install asahi. Exchange the boot object in /boot/efi/m1n1/boot.bin with tg.st/u/4k.bin or build it yourself: https://github.com/jannau/m1n1/tree/display_fb_alloc
<Glanzmann>
penguwin: And than execute: echo display=5120x1140 >> /boot/efi/m1n1/boot.bin
<Glanzmann>
penguwin: If you try it, let us know if it works for you. I tried the above with a 2k and 4k resolution successfully.
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<Glanzmann>
penguwin: Also note, that hdmi hotplug (turning off the screen and turning it on again does not work currently) - jannau has it working for him, but when I tried the same, it did not work for me with an eizo 2k monitor.
<joske>
mps: sure, I'll choose, but interesting to hear other opinions
<Glanzmann>
penguwin: But my guess is, if it doesn't work under macos, it will also not work under Linux at least not with the minimal dcp code we currenly have.
<penguwin>
Glanzmann: Thanks! Sounds very promising indeed! Going to try it later this day (or maybe not until tomorrow). Will let you know for sure
<penguwin>
(and probs to jannau for working on this!)
<Glanzmann>
penguwin: Btw. Does the monitor give you any output under macos at all?
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<penguwin>
Glanzmann: it does but only in some weird resolution, something around 3800x1150
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<Sobek[m]>
On the Lenovo vs MBP, I'd take the MBP, but that's because I'm a macOS user. For quite a few things macOS is a great environment and I usually don't loose time configuring obscure stuff (like my advisor's linux machine that always has mic and/or sounds issues when trying to have a video meeting). Linux Virtualisation on those machine appears to have a few rough edges but they appear to be quickly tracked down and ironed out, so you can probably
<Sobek[m]>
get the best of both world.
<bluetail[m]>
Sobek[m]: Linux is more initial setup time
<bluetail[m]>
the mbp has a screen I cannot stand
<Sobek[m]>
The big question I would have is : Do you need some x86_64 / x86 specific stuff ? (Like x86 Windows VM etc)
<bluetail[m]>
in fact my retina burns on any of those retina displays
<bluetail[m]>
too exhausting
<bluetail[m]>
but well
<bluetail[m]>
I havent seen the new ones yet
<bluetail[m]>
with high refresh rates :D
<Sobek[m]>
Too bright ? Or too many small details / too tiny characters ?
<joske>
I guess it doesn't depend on the architecture for local testing (they said I could run/test the software locally)
<joske>
I'm guessing they deploy on x86
<Glanzmann>
penguwin: Godspeed. And if you try it, I'm really interested if it works.
<bluetail[m]>
Sobek[m]: Too much hue and its impossible to turn it off. Also external monitors emit a different image than on linux or windows for whatever reason.
<bluetail[m]>
I used to think it was a compatibility issue, but hearing it from a lot of researchers lately who measured color, I... decided
<bluetail[m]>
I DO know that macOS does render color differently and it annoys me. Colorimeter dont match up the difference, which makes me kind of more annoyed.
<bluetail[m]>
There are literally application based bugs where a specific color would be completely different...
<bluetail[m]>
The macOS is exhausting as in too much in your face - if you were to compare it to STAX headphones - some complain there is too much detail and thats what is keeping people from using it for a long session
<bluetail[m]>
Well
<bluetail[m]>
I shouldnt forget to add that when I booted into Windows, from Bootcamp, image was OK...
<bluetail[m]>
Apple has its own special sauce and I hate it
<bluetail[m]>
Both internal and external
<joske>
kov: I got 1599/6685 in asahi linux on M1
<Glanzmann>
kov: I see.
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<bluetail[m]>
If I install asahilinux, is everything completely reversible?
<brent>
yep
<bluetail[m]>
What is the fastest way to just test out the graphics output?
<bluetail[m]>
Cause thats the only thing I want to know right now
<bluetail[m]>
booting it, looking at a test image and then decide if I want to install
<bluetail[m]>
Do I really require to install the window manager for that
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<joske>
bluetail[m]: I guess the fastest way is to just install the plasma image
<Chainfire>
bluetail[m]: Installing Asahi Desktop too like 10 minutes for me?
<Chainfire>
How much quicker do you need?
<bluetail[m]>
ok thats good
<bluetail[m]>
cause I thought I had to follow lengthy videos while I do that still
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<joske>
quite streamlined now
<bluetail[m]>
yea
<bluetail[m]>
cool
<Chainfire>
(disclaimer: my MBP was hardly used, so virtually nothing installed, resizing the disk was quick, and I have 500mbit to download the packages)
<joske>
you might need to remove time machine backups from macOS manually
<bluetail[m]>
have 1gbps
<joske>
that's the only snag I hit
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<bluetail[m]>
timemachine is broken
<bluetail[m]>
I cant create any backups
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<joske>
there still might be local snapshot images though
<bluetail[m]>
when I start timemachine, it wants to backup on a drive no longer existent and I deleted everything regarding that already
<bluetail[m]>
still it tries
<bluetail[m]>
even when I rename X drive to what it wants
<bluetail[m]>
it fails
<joske>
:-/
<joske>
well, no harm in trying asahi, if you don't like it, you can just reboot in macOS (just with less diskspace ;-))
<joske>
it's literally just running the script from macOS
<bluetail[m]>
if asahi doesnt make a diff, I might think about selling my m1 as the only purpose is a silent NAS / docker slave
<joske>
and read the instructions of the script carefully ;-)
<bluetail[m]>
dont do rm rf /
<bluetail[m]>
and dont delete the mac partitions ...
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<joske>
and wait long enough before long pressing the power button to get into 1TR
<joske>
and don't panic when the resizing of APFS container seems to freeze the machine for a while
<joske>
this is normal
<bluetail[m]>
and dont lose power during the process :D
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<joske>
best not ;-)
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<qbit>
hola!
<qbit>
can the resize dance happen with filevault on? or does one need to disable that first?
<j`ey>
it can
<qbit>
ok, sweet - i probably need to purge more things then
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<qbit>
dang, 380G free (out of 1T) - installer is showing min size needs to be 994,662,584,320 bytes :P
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<qbit>
i had nix installed for a while there, it created a /nix using some apfs magic I don't understand.. wondering if it moved things around in an unexpected way
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<tpw_rules>
qbit: you need to delete some apfs snapshots
<j`ey>
after messing with kernel options for a bit (and having to rebuild llvm/clang).. I think maybe this USB C adapdter is just bust, didnt work in recoveryOS either :|
<bluetail[m]>
120hz works through xrandr. Changing HDMI output on my monitor, and then going back led me to a blackscreen I could fix with a physical long-press on the mac mini.
<bluetail[m]>
I had Desktop-Sharing active with Krfb
<bluetail[m]>
DisplayPort to Usb C doesnt seem to be recognized
<bluetail[m]>
vnc has nothing todo with it
<bluetail[m]>
once I change signal, its game-over if I want to come back
<bluetail[m]>
Is there a reason you cant re-plug HDMI so to say without gettting a blackscreen?
<bluetail[m]>
I know tb / displayport isnt working
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<tpw_rules>
because linux doesn't yet have the drivers to control it
<bluetail[m]>
I have yet to figure if the color on HDMI is fixed,
<bluetail[m]>
But so far it seems fixed?
<bluetail[m]>
idk why macOS messes it up... but I should verify that once again
<bluetail[m]>
nah it isnt fixed
<bluetail[m]>
seems related to dithering or so
<bluetail[m]>
if you look from the side, you can actually see vertical lines flickering in darker color from the base color
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<bluetail[m]>
I wonder though why on earth does it display properly on my x86 devices
<bluetail[m]>
is it really the physical hdmi port?
<bluetail[m]>
I try fix it
<bluetail[m]>
theres no dithering off in xrandr
<bluetail[m]>
sad
<tpw_rules>
xrandr really has no control over anything right now
<bluetail[m]>
I see, so setting 120hz was actual placebo
<bluetail[m]>
but I still had those 'artifacts'
<bluetail[m]>
I think its hardware related now
<bluetail[m]>
I mean colors are much more intense on the mac and idk what that is - but I am annoyed by whatever happens there
<bluetail[m]>
has anybody gotten keepassxc running on there? I kind of failed that :D
<bluetail[m]>
It's as easy to describe as the raspberry pi symbol is intense red almost
<bluetail[m]>
where the original color is much more decent
<bluetail[m]>
also
<bluetail[m]>
I cant see that in the matrix dark theme there is a difference between the left side bar color ath the space inbetween using the HDMI port
<bluetail[m]>
perhaps there is limited colorspace on the mini
<bluetail[m]>
I want to undo the process now, I think...
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<bluetail[m]>
hold on...
<bluetail[m]>
gotta go back to asahi, the difference between direct macOS and asahi is brutal
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<bluetail[m]>
I managed to capture it - for the reason of being more present on one device - but so similar on the intel x86 machine via photograph, I post a image. I dont know what it is either!
<asahi-test[m]>
j`ey: thanks, i get the same error:
<asahi-test[m]>
qemu-system-aarch64: -m and ,maxmem option values require an IPA range (40 bits) larger than the one supported by the host (36 bits)
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<milek7>
I think 6.2.0 is too old
<asahi-test[m]>
I installed asahi last thursday, i think
<VinDuv>
asahi-test[m]: In Debian QEMU_EFI.fd is in /usr/share/qemu-efi-aarch64/QEMU_EFI.fd from the qemu-efi-aarch64 packages. I suppose it’s the same on Arch Linux… but it any case it won’t solve your problem
<asahi-test[m]>
Right
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<asahi-test[m]>
<VinDuv> "asahi-test: In Debian QEMU_EFI...." <- I could try installing debian 11, no? Is there a guide?
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<j`ey>
I would wait until someone with m1 air + asahi can reproduce it or say how they fixed it
<VinDuv>
If you want QEMU_EFI.fd you can easily extract it from the Debian package :) but even on Debian you’ll probably have the same error when starting qemu, so it’s probably not worth it
<asahi-test[m]>
VinDuv: I am trying to install sudo pacman -Sy qe\mu-efi-aarch64
<j`ey>
this isnt going to fix it, the error is before EFI is loaded
<asahi-test[m]>
not sure i have it
<asahi-test[m]>
j`ey: I understant
<asahi-test[m]>
just solving the other issue of getting the right bios
<asahi-test[m]>
VinDuv: what is the difference? Not supported
<VinDuv>
I don’t really know Arch Linux and haven’t used it in a very long time, but IIRC AUR packages are unsupported and require a special tool to install them
<asahi-test[m]>
right right
<milek7>
you need to compile qemu from sources
<asahi-test[m]>
I can install source code and debug until the error, what tools do i need?
<asahi-test[m]>
milek7: yes, ok is there a guide of some sort?
<asahi-test[m]>
just to be sure i am picking up the right one:
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<asahi-test[m]>
i should pick gcc right?
<mps>
asahi-test[m]: is the qemu on Arch have patches which allow to run on M1?
<j`ey>
mps: no
<milek7>
asahi-test[m]: you need all, so just press enter
<j`ey>
mps: youre using qemu built from source right?
<j`ey>
not 6.2.0
<mps>
asahi-test[m]: if not, you must apply these patches or build qemu from current git repo
<asahi-test[m]>
milek7: thanks, ongoing
<mps>
j`ey: no, Natanael (alpine BDFL) backported these patches to alpine on my advice
<asahi-test[m]>
j`ey: i am using 6.2.0 from pacman
<mps>
j`ey: if he didn't I would for sure ;)
<milek7>
and then there are build instructions on qemu.org, in these in configure step you can instead do `./configure --target-list=aarch64-softmmu` so it doesn't build all the others platforms
<j`ey>
mps: ah I missed that, just looked at the version
<asahi-test[m]>
i have a connection via SIM hotspot, so it will take a while :D, meanwhile i will read the docs
<asahi-test[m]>
mps: how do i do that?
<mps>
asahi-test[m]: what?
<asahi-test[m]>
mps: ask Arch people to update the code, no?
<mps>
asahi-test[m]: I'm not familiar with Arch development process, but probable create bug or wishlist report somewhere on their site
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<mps>
good thing is arch and alpine have similar build package format and process so it should be easy to backport these on arch
<mps>
asahi-test[m]: other option is to use alpine and you will have good arm64 distro out-of-the-box
<mps>
:)
<mps>
on alpine arm cpus are not second class 'citizens'
<bluetail[m]>
I ordered a LG 27GP950-B and hope the issue with the color and the LED-Array shining through is gone on the new model
<bluetail[m]>
I think when you own a monitor for 6 years, its not uncommon that the LEDs are shining through
<bluetail[m]>
The only thing I dont like is that the powersupply is external
<bluetail[m]>
what can happen is that you are having an accident with the cable and damage the DIN port for power
<asahi-test[m]>
mps: that seems a quicker approach that i can follow, but seems to me default install asahi users would benefit most from the update of the repo. I will maybe do both. Send the email and install alpine using your guide. no?
<asahi-test[m]>
first to make sure that source solves the problem, i will try to compile it
<j`ey>
asahi-test[m]: it will do
<asahi-test[m]>
j`ey: this new code will sort the issue?
<asahi-test[m]>
i do not understand
<mps>
asahi-test[m]: well, installing alpine requires more steps than default arch alarm, but if one follow my guide and ask me here if something goes wrong it will work
<j`ey>
asahi-test[m]: yes
<asahi-test[m]>
mps: OK i will compile, ask for the merge, then install alpine.
<mps>
qemu works for me from 2022-01-14
<mps>
so more than 2 months
<asahi-test[m]>
mps: great
<mps>
actually everything I tested works on alpine
<mps>
have to say I didn't tested wayland/weston
<j`ey>
wayland with sway works fine
<asahi-test[m]>
asahi-test[m]: it will take me sometime because out of these 23 packages for the build, i only have 5 installed atm
<mps>
j`ey: 'we' should start write notes what works on alpine and what doesn't maybe?
<mps>
saying someone who is lazy to write notes ;)
<j`ey>
if it doesnt work, just fix it :P
<mps>
I tested script today to install alpine on nvme from booting usb disk but have to clean it somewhat
<mps>
j`ey: I like to say 'if I don't remember something this is not important' ;)
<bluetail[m]>
Will there be like a larger array of software in the future for Asahi Linux?
<j`ey>
larger array than what?
<bluetail[m]>
Earlier that day I found out I cant install KeePassXC ...
<bluetail[m]>
Than what we currently have
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<bluetail[m]>
Theres like web keepass but idk if I want that
<asahi-test[m]>
Ok, thank you all for your help. Will continue this tomorrow and keep you posted.
<asahi-test[m]>
BTW as soon as i solve this vm thing to have the dev env on it, since libreoffice works fine and i have sound on the headphones, i will make Asahi the primary boot.
<asahi-test[m]>
milek7: Oh thanks, i install it with pacman?
<bluetail[m]>
ok `systemctl restart nscd` didnt help
<bluetail[m]>
its still `error: failed retrieving file 'keepassxc-2.6.6-1-aarch64.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.archlinuxarm.org : The requested URL returned error: 404`
<Chainfire>
Though again, dependencies. i.e. building Java, Python, Go, etc will probably work, but developing full blown Android apps, probably not at this stage.
<Malina[m]>
yes Android Studio definitely won't work
<Malina[m]>
i'm not aware of platform-tools/Android SDK for Linux arm64
<Malina[m]>
they only have macOS arm64 platform-tools and Android SDK
<Malina[m]>
their download page only has Linux x86_64 downloads
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<thedevnull[m]>
Hello! 👋
<armin>
hello!
<armin>
yes there are people out there!
<armin>
who READ YOUR MESSAGES!
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<thedevnull[m]>
What an amazing project. I've been working on a couple things for a test project and asahi has me super interested to see if I can make it work with m1 macs. Basically I'm using Cobbler and PXE to automate the deployment of new servers in my test datacenter. I want to essentially purchase new hardware, rack it (plug in network and power), power it on, and all the automation (DHCP, PXE, Ansible or cloud-init, etc.) turns it into whatever it
<thedevnull[m]>
needs to be (database server, web server, proxmox cluster member, w\e.).
<thedevnull[m]>
I've done a little bit of research so far on the u-boot / m1n1 and trying to figure out the best way to install a minimal PXE or netboot. Essentially I'd like to take a fresh M1 mac out of the box, do something simple (like install the boot loader and maybe a minimal vzlinux / PXE kernel. possibly netboot.xyz?) and then be able to automate it like other servers are automated.
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<tpw_rules>
thedevnull[m]: zv i believe has got an m1 mac set up in a datacenter-type situation
<tpw_rules>
but i'm not sure it's all that ready yet
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<tpw_rules>
he had to do some tricks to make sure he could restart it remotely
<zv>
tpw_rules: it's actually quite stable. stock "debian installer from glanz". no extra hardware for reboot capabilities, not a tethered boot.
<tpw_rules>
i thought you had something hooked up over usb?
<zv>
the *only* issue right now is that the nvme-over-usb-c sometimes (1-2x per week) can't recover from a reset
<zv>
but that is for /home only.
<zv>
(logging in as root has been reliable, reboots are fine)
<tpw_rules>
i would also at least wait until the system firmware is updateable from linux
<tpw_rules>
so macos can be ditched completely
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<armin>
DITCH ALL TEH OSEZ
<zv>
yes. this setup is fine for our purposes and scratches just the right itch.
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<M0n0w1c[m]>
tpw_rules: You planing a new release? I was thinking about giving it a try and noticed "couple of weeks".
<tpw_rules>
M0n0w1c[m]: maybe this weekend, but the only thing i would really do is update nixpkgs. there's nothing new in the kernel yet. i might push that message out a bit
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<tpw_rules>
do you have a mac mini?
<M0n0w1c[m]>
Yes, just got it. I installed Asahi but I was looking at NixOS before with my Rpi4s.