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<ktz_[m]> mps: if you're still here update the draft before going to bed please
<Ata[m]> <Ata[m]> "Ekran Resmi 2022-03-28 02.28.30..." <- it s ok now ı'm intalled and workin now but ı cannot hear anything from speakers
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<acnebs[m]> Hi, is it possible to run Asahi in a VM using Parallels?
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<nicolas17> why would you want to do that? (no)
<tpw_rules> no
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<nicolas17> the whole point of Asahi is working on bare-metal M1 hardware, if you're using a VM, just use a normal Linux kernel/distro
<tpw_rules> asahi linux is arch linux arm + the bits that make it work on bare metal
<tpw_rules> so just use arch linux arm
<bdju> if I'm planning to get some sort of M1 MacBook in the next 1-3 years or so with hopes of only running GNU/Linux on it, should I wait to get one or is there no harm getting one now?
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<nicolas17> wait for what? better hardware?
<bdju> main concern I guess is that maybe newer M1 hardware would come out again, quickly get supported, and then I'd still be stuck with the old hardware because I didn't wait.
<tpw_rules> that's currently not possible, so by waiting apple will release better models and/or you'll be able to get existing ones chaper
<bdju> yeah better hardware
<bdju> my main machine these days is a ThinkPad T440p and it struggles with playback of certain video encodes. bit too weak of a CPU to handle the software decoding I guess
<acnebs[m]> Gotcha, thanks nicolas17 and tpw_rules
<bdju> but I also keep telling myself I don't want to get another x86* machine if I can help it
<nicolas17> and yeah depending on what you mean by "only running GNU/Linux"
<nicolas17> you can't 100% avoid macOS
<bdju> nicolas17: right now, or ever?
<tpw_rules> the m1 does stellar at software video decode
<tpw_rules> you can 90% avoid it, and in the future that could be 99%
<nicolas17> bdju: you need to boot into macOS, set a password for the initial user, reboot into the recovery environment (which is also macOS), and install Linux from there; that's unlikely to change in the future
<bdju> hm. I'd definitely feel better if I could blow it all away. not sure how much I care. if I never have to boot into it, then maybe loss of some disk space is the main issue
<bdju> okay, but after the setup does macOS have to stay on there?
<tpw_rules> did you read the announcement post: https://asahilinux.org/2022/03/asahi-linux-alpha-release/ ?
<nicolas17> updating macOS is probably the only way to get system firmware updated, but other than that, probably not
<bdju> and from a cold boot can it default to asahi or do you have to hold some key or something each time? how permanent does it feel?
<tpw_rules> afaik they plan to be able to do system firmware updates from linux
<bdju> I think I read the announcement post but if you're referring to some part that would answer my question, I guess I don't recall
<tpw_rules> asahi can be set as default. it feels great and boots fast
<nicolas17> "the installer doesn’t support replacing macOS at this point. This is because we have no mechanism for updating system firmware from Linux yet, and until we do it makes sense to keep a macOS install lying around for that."
<nicolas17> "Of course, if you really want to wipe macOS after installing Linux and re-partition that space, we won’t stop you!"
<tpw_rules> well to get a feel for how supported it is now and if that meets your expectations
<bdju> nicolas17: oh, nice
<bdju> okay, I have a rough idea of the situation now then
<bdju> so macOS is left on there because it's a good idea, not because it has to be there, basically?
<tpw_rules> there's also this page: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Introduction-to-Apple-Silicon which covers how the apple security stuff works
<tpw_rules> the problem is future linux kernel updates might require future macOS updates because large parts of the hardware run on macOS firmware and apple won't make any compatibility concessions for linux
<bdju> thanks, I'll take a look
<tpw_rules> so if you blow off macOS it will be hard to update that firmware later if and when it is necessary
<bdju> ah, okay.
<bdju> can macOS be booted from an external drive? like if I shrank my partition of it and then backed it up to something else
<tpw_rules> effectively yes
<bdju> oh cool
<tpw_rules> it's not actually technically possible, but apple fakes it well enough
<bdju> thank you both for all the answers. I'll probably try to wait it out a bit longer then
<tpw_rules> you're welcome. the hardware is certainly impressive!
<nicolas17> bdju: also, since you mentioned video decoding on the thinkpad
<nicolas17> there is currently no support for the M1's GPU or hardware video decoder
<tpw_rules> but the cpu is so fast it really doesn't matter
<nicolas17> but the CPU is fast enough to cope with it in software
<nicolas17> just won't have the miraculous battery life Apple advertises in that case
<bdju> yeah, that's what I was thinking was the case
<bdju> if things were good enough I would maybe mostly use it at a desk with a bunch of stuff plugged in. oh yeah, can you plug in external monitors right now?
<tpw_rules> no
<bdju> hm okay
<nicolas17> HDMI is supported on the Mac Mini (the non-laptop) but that's it
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<Ata[m]> its speaker doesnt workin well right ? i installed and youtube videoes doesnt work well to
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<nicolas17> Ata[m]: built in speaker is disabled, because otherwise with the current drivers at high volume it could literally blow up
<Ata[m]> nicolas17: can ı active in manual ?
<chadmed> you have to edit the devicetree
<chadmed> we're not telling people how to do that explicitly just yet because there is a risk of blowing up the speakers
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<Ata[m]> anyone can send a instractions about how to i can install openvpncloud on this
<chadmed> its a linux distro, you do it like you would on any other linux distro
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<Ata[m]> <chadmed> "its a linux distro, you do it..." <- ı'm trying arch installition guides some packeges but always givin error
<chadmed> are they electron apps?
<chadmed> some stuff doesnt work with 16k pages yet
<Ata[m]> chadmed: not electron apps
<nicolas17> for the second time, "givin error" is not enough, you need to tell us what the actual error is :)
<Ata[m]> nicolas17: okay firstly how ı can take a screen shoot on this
<chadmed> just make a pastebin of the terminal output
<Ata[m]> atao@ata-mac:~ 1$ sudo pacman -Sy wireguard-tools... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/eksJqAdWpNIFFFRyOdFMeDUC)
<chadmed> youve added repos to pacman wrong it looks like
<chadmed> we cant really offer support for your custom repos. the base repos sync correctly and then your other stuff returns 404 errors
<Ata[m]> okay letme check
<Ata[m]> ı'm in collage dormitory our internet has a firewall maybe is that
<chadmed> could be, but whatever it is its not something wrong with the mac, because as you see the asahi and other ALARM default repos sync fine
<kode54> pick a different alarm mirror in mirrorlist
<kode54> try rankmirrors on the whole lot if you feel like it
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<kode54> /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
<kode54> that needs tweaking
<Ata[m]> [root@ata-mac package-query]# makepkg -si
<Ata[m]> catastrophic damage to your system.
<Ata[m]> ==> ERROR: Running makepkg as root is not allowed as it can cause permanent,
<kode54> yeah, don't do that
<Ata[m]> why
<Ata[m]> how to install AUR
<kode54> you build the packages as a regular user, then pacman -U them
<kode54> or let that script sudo pacman -U them
<kode54> you should have sudo installed anyway
<kode54> well, I know it's not default for basic arch linux or alarm
<kode54> but it's a darn good idea either way
<chadmed> sudo is installed in asahi desktop by default
<chadmed> likewise, fakeroot
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<kode54> I stupidly picked the base option because I thought gnome would be quite usable if I installed it manually
<kode54> little did I know that it would fail to work completely
<chadmed> "gnome" and "useable" do not belong in the same sentence :P
<kode54> turns out that was probably because base install doesn't activate any locales by default, just like a basic install of Arch
<kode54> I'd just as soon use the hacker compositor, Wayfire
<kode54> where you have to program the non-default autostart entries to even set up the systemd environment, or else half your apps will take 30 seconds to start
<kode54> this isn't in the default shipping config file for the compositor
<kode54> it's just a "helpful tip" in the FAQ
<kode54> this comes from the same wonderful people who spend all day hanging out with Drew DeVault
<kode54> at least their stuff is configurable at runtime
<kode54> can't say the same about that suckless bullcrap
<kode54> "to reconfigure: edit the source code and recompile it. then upload to the AUR so the janitors have something to delete later"
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<kalios[m]> hi tpw_rules so I made a backup using time machine but now the installer says `Your APFS Container resize request is below the APFS-system-imposed minimal container sizeYour APFS Container resize request is below the APFS-system-imposed minimal container size`. I've tried removing the destination as in the comments here https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/346628 but still same issue. I've also removed filevault and added defragmentation
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<mps> ktz_[m]: what needs to be updated in guide
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<remote_destination[m]> Hey guys! Awesome work. It really inspires me, but I still have a lot to learn.
<remote_destination[m]> I was curious about something, but don't know if the question has been answered yet. Maybe it can't be answered yet given the state of the project, but my question is: is the single external display limitation on the M1 chip a hardware or software limitation? And if it is a software limitation, could Asahi linux support more than one external display on regular M1 devices like the Macbook Air M1 or the 13" MBP m1?
<dottedmag> remote_destination[m]: AFAIR, the limitation is hardware. Whatever Apple tells about the number of external displays is the real number of display controllers present in the hardware.
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<dottedmag> So the only way to work around it is external display controllers, like DisplayLink (if it can be made to work)
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<bittin^> some more Asahi on this weeks LUP: https://linuxunplugged.com/451 and last weeks: https://linuxunplugged.com/450
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<brudda[m]> What web browsers do you guys use on alarm? I'd love to use icecat but it doesn't seem like there is a way to compile it for aarch64 yet
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<kov> brudda[m], most people are using Firefox I believe
<chadmed> firefox and by extension librewolf work fine
<kov> brudda[m], you should be able to build icecat in reasonable time fwiw
<brudda[m]> The install scripts can only build icecat for armhf
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<brudda[m]> And librewolf isn't packaged for arm. I wanted to avoid Firefox because Mozilla, but I'd prefer it to chromium I guess lol
<brudda[m]> I was using midori and it was okay, very lightweight, but it had some silly keybinds and I couldn't figure out how to change them, a lot of websites also don't work on jt
<brudda[m]> I guess i can always just harden Firefox
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<jannau> Glanzmann: display_fb_alloc updated with working 4k framebuffer
<j`ey> how is simpledrm with 4k?
<Glanzmann> jannau: Wow. Cool. I'm giving a training right now. First thing i'll do when I finish is, test it. If it works for me, I send it to Ry Darcy. :-)
<Glanzmann> jannau: Were you able to allocate additional memory and change the mapping in the dt?
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<jannau> j`ey: slow, just console, haven't tried X11/wayland yet
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<jannau> the problem was that new framebuffer was partially in a new dart level 2 page table which vanishes at m1n1 exit
<jannau> I swap now things around which will work up to 5120x2252
<Glanzmann> jannau: Nice, than we can finally use our new studio display, not that I have one. But if you all tell me how good it is, maybe I'll consider buying one. But than you need to tell me which glas you choose for it.
<chadmed> standard glass should be fine unless you sit near a window
<jannau> Glanzmann: the studio display will not work. this is just hdmi and not thunderbolt. in addition its resolution is 5120x2880 which would not fit
<Glanzmann> jannau: Oh I see.
<Glanzmann> chadmed: Does that count as near or window or does it only count if the light goes on the screen? https://tg.st/u/IMG_20220328_150342849_HDR.jpg
<chadmed> basically if theres light bright enough to reflect off it
<chadmed> i just said a window beause thats the usual example
<Glanzmann> chadmed: Nope, there is not. I see thanks for the advice.
<oi_wtf> @s
<Glanzmann> j`ey: With 2k it is really fast (like on the laptop screen) Since Ray asked me for a patch, I'm using it myself.
<jannau> j`ey: weston is ok at 4k simpledrm though
<Glanzmann> j`ey: I'm now using the mini as my primary workstation.
<Glanzmann> jannau: I'm on xorg with fvwm2. Mainly using a terminal, firefox, xfreerdp, mupdf, exince, xournal, gimp. Mostly in fullscreen.
<Glanzmann> j`ey: ^
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<brudda[m]> Is gimp okay without graphics acceleration?
<Glanzmann> brudda[m]: For me it is, but honestly, I only crop pictures in gimp, or get the x/y coordinates to write a script to do cropping and maybe white balance ...
<Glanzmann> jannau: Why don't we need that anymore? x2r10g10b10 or where was it coming from in the first place?
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<brudda[m]> Okay, thank you
<jannau> it's the format iboot uses and the framebuffer has when m1n1 takes over. we had so far no way to switch it
<Glanzmann> jannau: Ah, thank you for the explanation.
<sjbtrn[m]> Hey, I'm a new to contributing to this project, but I would like to start doing so. I'm familiar with C, Linux and Operating systems in general. Is there any place to see what I can do? I can write/edit documentation or basically anything that's needed right now. Thanks!
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<j`ey> Glanzmann: yup wayland has worked fine for me, but ive hardly used it yet, too much fun playing with the kernel instead :P
<j`ey> jannau: nice that weston is fine! i get weird visual glitches occasionally on the text console
<jannau> sjbtrn[m]: welcome and nice that you want to contribute. Do you have already a apple silicon computer which runs asahilinux? if so is there anything you're missing?
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<jannau> if so I suggest you try to work on that. we son't really have well defined and ready tasks beyond add support for $HARDWARE_PART
<sjbtrn[m]> <jannau> "sjbtrn: welcome and nice that..." <- I do have it running!
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<sjbtrn[m]> <jannau> "if so I suggest you try to..." <- Alright, thanks!!
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<M1bn3mar[m]> hi, Candygoblen123 how to make ur build of neofetch fetch asahi on an already installed system?
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<M1bn3mar[m]> > what you can do for now is this:... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/kjansrCYbCBPzEjfrrZUXUOk)
<bluetail[m]> Would it be reasonable to do Benchmarks and compare different Asahi releases?
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<Glanzmann> kettenis: Which critical fixes did it to u-boot? Is the road clear for PCIe?
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<jannau> Glanzmann: rtkit timeout for 4 and 8 TB SSDs and the mem layout fix
<Glanzmann> jannau: I see, thanks. Btw. I have an update on 4k it works and it is fast: https://tg.st/u/screenshot-mini-2022-03-28-17_21_15.png
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<Glanzmann> jannau: Of course video playback is slow and you can see the tiering if you run it fullscreen. But I tried in a window and browsing a webpage with lots of animated gifs/movies on it and it is fast. I also tested fullscreen terminal scrolling which is also fast.
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<Glanzmann> jannau: Btw. On the mini hdmi hotplug (turning the monitor off and on again) does not wor for me with the eizo, does it work for you?
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<ktz_[m]> Is compiling a new boot bin the only way to change the target uboot goes into?
<jannau> at the moment yes
<bluetail[m]> <Glanzmann> "jannau: Of course video playback..." <- what score do u get running geekbench?
<bluetail[m]> (can run from cli)
<marcan> jannau: I want to keep the fb 10-bit, that falls into the "get people to fix their software" motivator list ;)
<marcan> (and there are advantages to it)
<ktz_[m]> Are we likely to have properly functioning shutdown/deepsleep soon?
<marcan> shutdown works fine?
<marcan> what do you mean by that?
<marcan> deepsleep can mean several things too; CPU deep sleep, s2idle, or full s3 style sleep
<ktz_[m]> Don't you have to shutdown via the button after you execute a poweroff lets say?
<marcan> no?
<bluetail[m]> deepsleep is that mysterious term that apple created claiming it can work during the sleep but never did for me
<ktz_[m]> I thought I read this somehwere
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<marcan> a few months ago maybe, I wrote the driver for that already
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<ktz_[m]> pardon me then marcan
<jannau> marcan: yes, it is also not worth investing any effort in adapting m1n1's fb code to 8-bit, time would be better spent on the dcp driver
<marcan> yup
<bluetail[m]> ktz_[m]: creative: Triggering the same signal when shutdown is executed as you would have on macOS apple when pushing the shutdown button.
<bluetail[m]> I never thought about it
<marcan> it's the other way around
<marcan> when the shutdown button is held we trigger a hard shutdown before the hardware has a chance to
<marcan> that allows the NVMe cache to flush
<marcan> it's the same thing macOS does, except macOS does it by issuing a magic kind of panic (lol)
<bluetail[m]> brilliant
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<brentr123[m]> Or do I not need to worry
<brentr123[m]> So I partioned part of my drive for asahi, I did 70gb apfs. Disk utility said that it failed to partition it, but the 70gb partition still showed up.
<brentr123[m]> Is that corrupted/bad?
<brentr123[m]> * Is that corrupted/bad?
<brentr123[m]> Or do I not need to worry
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<bluetail[m]> Glanzmann: btw what you meant was 'tearing' but not 'tiering'
<Cy8aer[m]> I wonder what the linux magic key combination is (you know Ctrl-Alt-Prnt S U B)
<bluetail[m]> Cy8aer[m]: can you explain what you meant with "Ctrl-Alt-Prnt S U B" ?
<tmlind> hmm so is there some preferred way to update the m1n1 stub partition to 12.3? looks like i can no longer boot m1n1 automatically..
<bluetail[m]> ctrl alt print is usually some way to screenshot
<Cy8aer[m]> holding ctrl alt print is the "Stop key" in linux. If you hold the keys and press "S" the system is stopped, "U" unmounts and "B" boots
<opticron> I thought S was sync
<Cy8aer[m]> oups sync right
<bluetail[m]> you can unmount the running system?
<Cy8aer[m]> But on a mac you cannot press print because it does not exist.
<nicolas17> hmm no idea if you can remap sysrq to another key
<Cy8aer[m]> This key combination can be used if the system is not responsive anymore. @opticrion yes I mean this.
<Cy8aer[m]> s/opticrion/opticron:/
<bluetail[m]> Cy8aer[m]: What usually breaks for me is that Xorg breaks so I press CTRL+ALT+F7 and then CTRL+ALT+F1
<bluetail[m]> s/breaks/hangs/
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<Cy8aer[m]> emergency stop so to say
<bluetail[m]> CTRL+ALT+F ... only changes TTY's afaik
<bluetail[m]> but in the background restarts Xorg
<bluetail[m]> F7 is I think the TTY with GUI
<Cy8aer[m]> The key combination is kernel - no user space.
<bluetail[m]> Cy8aer[m]: which one?
<bluetail[m]> CTRL+ALT+F7 ?
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<bluetail[m]> Cy8aer[m]: Does it apply to debian ? For some reason nothing happens trying to execute one of them within a GUI session. Perhaps its distribution dependent.
<bluetail[m]> CTRL+ALT+DEL for instance lets me logout, reboot or poweroff
<Cy8aer[m]> No this is kernel and it exists since very early times (had it already in the early 90s)
<nicolas17> if you get any GUI in response then that's not the key we're talking about :P
<Cy8aer[m]> SysRq can be the print key but must not.
<bluetail[m]> Cy8aer[m]: Are you older than 30?
<bluetail[m]> I know its irrelevant but /me shrugs
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<Cy8aer[m]> @bluetail: yep this can happen. Working with linux since 1991, internet since 1988
<Cy8aer[m]> 1992 (sorry, but saw the original tar on our ftp servers in 1991)
<bluetail[m]> We are an army of wizards here, aren't we?
<Cy8aer[m]> and since 1992 I do the "bought seen laught deleted" game
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<Cy8aer[m]> somehow
<bluetail[m]> can you explain 'bought seen laught deleted' game in a few words?
<Cy8aer[m]> You buy a computer, you see the os on it, you laugh, you delete it and install linux.
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<bluetail[m]> Cy8aer[m]: I realized it in 2022... And learned to use Linux in 2022 properly
<cmalvi[m]> Hi! thank you for asahi release
<bluetail[m]> I'm late to the party
<Cy8aer[m]> it is never too late 😉
<dottedmag> bluetail[m]: never late to See The Truth. just kidding.
<cmalvi[m]> i'm trying to run electron apps without success, there's any method to install a compatible kernel with those applications?
<Cy8aer[m]> electron - like chromium, emacs... has problems with 16k kernels. Should work with Glanzmann 's debian kernel which has 4k pageing compiled.
<cmalvi[m]> yes i've read about alternative distros are combatible
<cmalvi[m]> but with arch?
<tpw_rules> nixos has a 4k kernel too
<cmalvi[m]> also fedora and pop os
<cmalvi[m]> but is doable on arch?
<tpw_rules> if you know how to, you can apply sven's 4k kernel patch https://github.com/tpwrules/nixos-m1/blob/main/nix/m1-support/kernel/sven-iommu-4k.patch and set the appropriate config option
<tpw_rules> not sure exactly how to do that in arch's framework
<cmalvi[m]> me too, i don't know
<nicolas17> the reason for sticking to 16k is that then you direct your anger at chromium to support 16k
<tpw_rules> yes
<tpw_rules> or use a better browser and apps :)
<cmalvi[m]> librewolf works well
<cmalvi[m]> but i use slack so i need chromium
<tpw_rules> can't you use the web version
<nicolas17> does slack not work on firefox/librewolf?
<cmalvi[m]> not as a native app
<Cy8aer[m]> I am not sure but was no alternative 4k kernel offered for arch some days ago?
<cmalvi[m]> Cy8aer[m]: i don't know, where you read it?
<nicolas17> the so-called native app is chromium...
<sven> iirc someone already submitted a patch to chromium
<tpw_rules> yes, someone did
<sven> it’ll take a while to land but we’re still at the alpha stage anyway
<nicolas17> I heard some macOS M1 users are getting the iOS app instead and getting significantly better performance and memory usage than with the electron mac app
<tpw_rules> not sure if they will accept it
<sven> why wouldn’t they?
<cmalvi[m]> nicolas17: yes, but i prefer due to tray icon and other things
<sven> it might need changes but they already support runtime page size for macOS builds
<tpw_rules> there was some issue about how it is harder to set up the appropriate variables at startup on linux
<sven> right, it might need some changes
<tpw_rules> yeah, that's more what i meant to say
<cmalvi[m]> also box64 seems having problem with 16k
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<sven> that one might be impossible to run on 16k kernels because it tries to run x86 binary that can assume 4K pages
<cmalvi[m]> so have a 4k alternative kernel for arch would be great, not only for electron-based app
<sven> eventually there will be
<sven> but that’s not offered right deliberately to find and fix bugs in apps like chromium
<cmalvi[m]> sven: i hope :) but is already in a great state this project
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<ptitSeb[m]> <cmalvi[m]> "also box64 seems having problem..." <- what problem?
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<burgertron> hello
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<tpw_rules> hi
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<burgertron> was curious what's up with asahi and see that 10 days ago there was a blog post with the installer
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<burgertron> very cool
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<cmalvi[m]> <ptitSeb[m]> "what problem?" <- not work due to 16k
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<burgertron> was afraid I was going to have to find a USB-C drive to install it
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<burgertron> only problem is that I'm running os 12.2.1 so I have to wait on the update
<ptitSeb[m]> cmalvi[m]: but it does works
<ptitSeb[m]> > <@cmalvi:matrix.org> not work due to 16k
<ptitSeb[m]> * but it does work
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<nicolas17> burgertron: M1 Macs don't support booting from USB
<cmalvi[m]> burgertron: don't worry, if you follow the instructions there no problem
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<burgertron> I could've sworn USB boot worked
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<tpw_rules> i think the installer will stop if you're on 12.2.1
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<tpw_rules> they can fake booting from USB
<cmalvi[m]> ptitSeb[m]: maybe an update today? yesterday didn't work
<ptitSeb[m]> maybe. I haven't tried today
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<ptitSeb[m]> you had an error?
<burgertron> >About 0 days remaining
<burgertron> thanks for the ETA apple
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<ptitSeb[m]> did you build with "-DM1" ?
<cmalvi[m]> ptitSeb[m]: yes about 16k
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<cmalvi[m]> i've built using the m1 instruction on github
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<burgertron> its kind of funny
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<burgertron> I'm interested in installing this so I can run a windows VM better
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<burgertron> who knows how that'll turn out
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<cmalvi[m]> mkdir build; cd build; cmake .. -DM1=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=RelWithDebInfo
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<tpw_rules> i'm not sure VMs work yet
<burgertron> only one way to find out
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<cmalvi[m]> cmalvi[m]: here the instruction for m1
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<ptitSeb[m]> use `ccmake` and check that the PAGE16K is on
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<cmalvi[m]> it build and install correctly but when i try to run wine i get the 16k error
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<burgertron> matrix bridge join messages are kind of annoying
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<cmalvi[m]> ptitSeb[m]: i'll check thanks
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<nicolas17> burgertron: the bridge must have crashed or something
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<nicolas17> or in the process of restarting
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<burgertron> maybe
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<ptitSeb[m]> I have added a check to compare the current page saize and the one it was built with
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<burgertron> maybe I can finally have that adventure in kernel hacking
<ptitSeb[m]> "M1" should activate the PAGE16K, but maybe my cmake-fu is not as good as I thought :S
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<brentr123[m]> ptitSeb[m]: Would be nice if box64 detected a .desktop running
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<ptitSeb[m]> what do you mean? find on what it's currently building and select the best profile automaticaly?
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<brentr123[m]> No have box64 activate within running a .desktop file, which is a desktop application shortcut
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<ptitSeb[m]> once binfmt stuff is on, you don't even need that
<ptitSeb[m]> it just run automatically
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<cmalvi[m]> ptitSeb: PAKE16 is off
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<ptitSeb[m]> that's it
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<cmalvi[m]> how can i save the modified option?
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<cmalvi[m]> found
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<cmalvi[m]> wine still game me page error
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<cmalvi[m]> any other option should be on?
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<ptitSeb[m]> wine still needs some 32bits parts for now.
<ptitSeb[m]> but box86 wont work there
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<cmalvi[m]> oh ok thanks
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<BenFE> anyone know what could be causing "Authorization supplicant failed" notification from NetworkManager when connecting to a WPA2 Enterprise network? It seems like a hardware error but I'm not sure.
<cmalvi[m]> but i can run electron apps like vs codium using box64?
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<BenFE> oh wait maybe i was wrong
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<BenFE> journalctl says that it's failing to load "/etc/ca-certufucates/extracted/ca-bundle.trust.crt"
<BenFE> is that the wrong cert for networks?
<ptitSeb[m]> not yet
<nicolas17> I don't think wifi uses that
<BenFE> the network config says it uses "USERTrust RSA Certification", which is in that crt file
<nicolas17> if it's trying to load ca-certufucates that will likely fail yes :p
<BenFE> oh?
<nicolas17> but I assume that was your typo and it's ca-certificates?
<BenFE> oh haha lmao yeah typo
<BenFE> i used the gui for selecting it so the file definitely exists
<dottedmag> ptitSeb[m]: Not sure how box86 can work: how would mapping 4k pages work? applications are free to do things like mapping the same physical 4K page twice at two subsequent 4K-aligned virtual addresses.
<dottedmag> s/box86/box64/
<cmalvi[m]> every program i'm trying to run with box64 give me page size error,
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<dottedmag> ptitSeb[m]: Or is it best effort? You try to do this trick, you get an error, but if the app is not picky, 16k pages get allocated somehow?
<ptitSeb[m]> most apps don't care about pagesize
<ptitSeb[m]> only a few, that contains JIT mainly, actually cares
<dottedmag> Sure, so is it best-effort? Works pretty much OK, but fails in some corner cases?
<ptitSeb[m]> box64 doesn't try anything to mask the 16K pages and shows it as 4K yes
<cmalvi[m]> tried to run some jetbrains ide with box64 , same pagefile error
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<VinDuv> IIRC Windows has an “allocation granularity”, distinct from page size, which is always 64K, so Win32 programs should usually not really care about the page size
<ptitSeb[m]> yes, wine now alocate 64K page indeed
<ptitSeb[m]> and box64+box86 handle that
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<brentr123[m]> is there a list of applications that box64 does work on for m1 ?
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<brudda[m]> Can we change screen resolution yet? It is on 2560x1600 at the moment and i can't seem to change it via xrandr
<j`ey> not yet
<j`ey> you can set scaling in KDE
<brudda[m]> Okay, thank you
<brudda[m]> I'm on i3 lol
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<ptitSeb[m]> <brentr123[m]> "is there a list of applications..." <- I haven't tested much stuff. I tried 7z and dav1d for benchmark purpose, and WordOfGoo (with it's installer), and that's it
<ptitSeb[m]> (I mean on M1 with Asahi)
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<j`ey> jannau: btw do you have numbers for kcbench on m1 and m1 (max or pro, whatever your laptop was)
<j`ey> 78s on the studio vs ??
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<jannau> j`ey: m1 max was iirc very close to factor 2, I don't have numbers for m1
<j`ey> Okay thanks. Will be interesting if the mini gets an upgrade at some point, maybe I will be tempted
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<jannau> j`ey: 155.56 seconds with a single m1 max
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<j`ey> so basically exactly 2x
<zv> just an update about using a USB-C to USB-A adapter to connect a USB-C NVMe to the USB-A ports: at least in my current setup, the disk detaches after attempting to write to it. verified connections were tight.
<zv> maybe these particular components don't want to play nice together. still seeing a disconnect 1-2 times per week on the USB-C ports but it's otherwise relatively stable
<zv> beginning with: [180693.873845] usb 5-1: reset high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci-hcd
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<povik> if there's anyone who can reliably reproduce the headphones jack flakiness, see if this patch helps: https://tpaste.us/WQRL
<povik> ugh, i spent more time on it than i would care to admit...
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<doublerye[m]> someone on up to date asahi mind zcat /proc/config.gz and posting it... trying to rebuild kernel based on latest linux-asahi config under NixOS and running into issues... wanna see what a running config repors
<doublerye[m]> s/repors/reports/
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<zamadatix> @doublerye https://pastebin.com/raw/qysecvWz
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<j`ey> doublerye[m]: are you not using tpw_rules' nixos stuff?
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