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<j`ey>
no
<j`ey>
just noone has tried to fix uboot yet
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<chadmed>
bluetail[m]: there is absolutely no point whatsoever in doing this because we dont have gpu acceleration yet. fwiw though, there should be absolutely no issues whatsoever running steam+proton in a fex chroot if youre using a 4k kernel
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<kode54>
oh yeah, I was vaguely interested in Noita at one point
<kode54>
maybe I'll finally get that some day
<bluetail[m]>
<chadmed> "bluetail: there is absolutely no..." <- SteamProton is not a having on ARM Linux, right?
<chadmed>
bluetail[m]: well considering Proton/Wine's job is to act as a Windows API implementation, and literally all the Windows API software youd ever want to run is x86/amd64 building it for ARM would be a waste of time
<chadmed>
but that's not what im saying. im saying that you can in fact run x86/amd64 games via wine/proton in a binary translator called FEX, but without a GPU kernel driver of Vulkan implemented in mesa for AGX yet, nothing is going to work properly
<chadmed>
that being said, im sure these machines are fast enough to software render really old games like half life 1, but as discussed here last night these games sometimes heavily rely on codepaths that FEX is not very fast at translating
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<kode54>
bluetail[m]: yes, I maintain the active fork of Cog
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<pugguu[m]1>
Just setting up theme and well this anyone know what’s wrong and how to fix it?
<pugguu[m]1>
Lol it’s driving me crazy
<chadmed>
yeah youre using gnome :P
<pugguu[m]1>
And…
<chadmed>
well thats the problem /s
<pugguu[m]1>
What’s wrong with gnome lol
<chadmed>
given that the issue seems to be rendering artefacts its probably that gnome doesnt like llvmpipe or the simplerdm driver or something.
<mps>
everything :)
<j`ey>
pretty sure alyssa has been using gnome, so it should be fine
<mps>
some time ago Rich Felker (musl libc author) explained in simple words what is the problem with all these desktop environment (I will not repeat here)
<pugguu[m]1>
Yea that’s why I whent for gnome cus I knew it was tested and it looks good and has good gesture support for when my trackpad works
<chadmed>
have you tried it in X11?
<pugguu[m]1>
I’d have to install it lol
<chadmed>
give that a go
<chadmed>
would be really funny if plasma's wayland support is now better than gnomes lol
<pugguu[m]1>
Gnome 40 defaults wayland
<pugguu[m]1>
How do I change to x11 just wondering
<chadmed>
should be an option in the display manager, usually hidden in the corner somewhere
<pugguu[m]1>
Sadly my trackpad doesn’t work on x11 ither
<pugguu[m]1>
There’s also a lot of tearing on X11 while moving windows around
<pugguu[m]1>
Heck there’s tearing in wayland too but it’s not as bad
<pugguu[m]1>
My eyes
<pugguu[m]1>
I can’t un see thease now lol
<jannau>
chadmed: did mutter add support for YUV formats in zwp_linux_dmabuf?
<chadmed>
no clue, havent used gnome in forever
<chadmed>
actually thats a lie i installed gnome 40 at some point last year and removed it about 3 minutes later :P
<pugguu[m]1>
Not gonna lie I think it’s the theme messing with it lol cus as soon as I disable the theme it goes away
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<David[m]123>
pugguu: Maybe do 'xinput list', then 'xinput --enable or --query-state [theIDofyourtrackpad]'
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<bluetail[m]>
I guess I'll wait some more before I try using asahilinux. Perhaps I get a second mac machine for those testing things.
<bluetail[m]>
M1?M2? We'll see...
<DavidPaulGraham[m]>
Hi All (I'm new here)! Hows the overall health of the Asahi project? I'm trying to convince myself to buy an M1, would love to help out, but wanted to get an pulse on this project first.
<Glanzmann>
Its missing bleeding edge preliminary dpms support for console blanking on the laptops.
<j`ey>
and sound capture
<Glanzmann>
And don't miss the tldr for the soon be released progress report: u-boot max/pro, nvme and spi support, wifi, wifi firmware extractor, smc (battery, reboot, poweroff, rtc), asahi installer (retry downloads, warn user about recovery OS, m1n1 nvme support, robustness), dcp, debian installer, OpenBSD, Asahi Installer for Arch, backlight for 2020 laptops, wip: Audio speakers on 2020 models, stable audio jack
<Glanzmann>
DavidPaulGraham[m]: The main developer is taking the day off but will be back tomorrow. The irc backlog says that after the installer release, gpu and thunderbolt are next.
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<DavidPaulGraham[m]>
Thanks Glanzmann more information than I could have asked for. The alpha release is great news, congrats for (about to reach) that milestone
<DavidPaulGraham[m]>
I have some reading to do
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<pugguu[m]1>
Glanzmann: let me guess time for another kernel update
<pugguu[m]1>
Also really need to fix input on my uboot/grub
<Glanzmann>
pugguu[m]1: You can ask kettenis nicely about pcie support for u-boot.
<Glanzmann>
Or I can search the old version of u-boot from kettenis which head pcie support for u-boot.
<Glanzmann>
pugguu[m]1: You're alread on the latest kernel.
<pugguu[m]1>
Nah I’m on 5.17 apparently there’s a 5.18 now
<Glanzmann>
pugguu[m]1: The only thing you're missing at the moment is dcp, but dcp has a worse performance than simpledrm, so you probably don't want it.
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<Glanzmann>
But it has hdmi hotplug support, so maybe you want it.
<j`ey>
pugguu[m]1: no 5.18 yet
<Glanzmann>
pugguu[m]1: The asahi kernel tree has not yet been rebased.
<tpw_rules>
mps: i think that is the reverse scenario, i.e. compiling u-boot as a .efi executable and using it to do extlinux or something
<mps>
tpw_rules: hmm, yes. but I'm asking from distro maintainer point of view, i.e. is there some good reason to use EFI and grub instead of extlinux.conf
<mps>
users are accustomed to grub could be one of 'points'
<tpw_rules>
i mean basically that efi is universal
<mps>
yes, that is why I have 'split minds' for now
<tpw_rules>
i don't understand? efi being universal is good
<mps>
hm, probably have to 'go' path as other people here does, i.e. grub
<mps>
tpw_rules: I always try to use KISS principle
<mps>
but nowadays maybe I will follow 'common path'
<mps>
s/will/should/
<mps>
tpw_rules: what is your plan for nixos on this
<mps>
ok, thank you boot, I will switch back to EFI for alpine
<tpw_rules>
that is nixos's general plan as well, which i wholeheartedly agree with. i'm tired of each arm board having its own image, like the poor armbian people have to deal with
<mps>
s/boot/both/
<tpw_rules>
i guess to be honest there isn't too much difference philosophically between efi and extlinux.conf from this perspective, except for device trees
<tpw_rules>
as efi can't really specify them. but on apple m1 that's a plus because specifying one explodes everything
<mps>
I tried :)
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