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<LarstiQ> ouch, the air doesn't have hdmi
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<nicolas17> even the 13" MBP doesn't have HDMI
<nicolas17> would an HDMI port even fit, physically, on the edge of the Air?
<LarstiQ> makes sense thinking about Apple's preference for thin
<LarstiQ> I was just happily assuming that's the way to go for external displays, but alas
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<bmc77> M2 Max Macbook Pro is the way to go for displays. Feature parity with M1 but with HDMI 2.1. Hooked up to an ultrawide (because theres only one hdmi port and dual monitors are not supported yet).
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<leio> jannau: hey, would you (or someone else?) be able assist a little bit with the 240 Hz via EDID changes try in macOS before my return window for the display closes?
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<jannau> leio: I didn't see anything in the edid which suggest the display supports 240Hz except for the max VRR value
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<jannau> do you happen to have seen EDIDs from displays which support 240Hz on apple silicon?
<leio> No :(
<leio> did it not have anything for VTDB in the EDID?
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<leio> jannau: BetterDisplay doesn't seem to really parse it much itself either
<leio> ah, but a link I had opened in macOS I just spotted has info on an EDID editor, etc. Will see what that thell.
<leio> tells*
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<leio> I assume that's what you used and didn't see anything about 240 Hz beyond VRR. Does it support VTDB parsing (if that question even makes sense)?
<leio> I'm checking out AW EDID Editor right now, which should let me just add a 240 Hz mode or something
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<leio> wonder if I'd get a different EDID out of it afterall from an amd64 box
<jannau> yes it can parse VTDB. That are either DTD (Detailed Timing Descriptor) or CVT (Coordinated Video Timings) descriptor in the CTA-861 Extension Block
<jannau> it contains 2 DTD but only 2560x1440 120/60 Hz. curiously with numbers 2 and 3 so dcp might redact things
<jannau> have you tried to read the edid over DP/usb-c?
<leio> No, I'll need to try some other cables for macOS
<jannau> and yes, edid from nvidia, intel or amd GPU would be interesting
<leio> how did I export raw EDID from linux again? :)
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<jannau> /sys/class/drm/card?-{HDMI,DP}-*/edid
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<leio> jannau: from there I get a 384 bytes thing, while macOS gave 256 bytes. Any good place to upload it to when I don't have access to any of my linux servers from macOS? :)
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<jannau> leio: usb storage, email, google drive?
<leio> I can mail somewhere or just realized base64 pastebin
<leio> address?
<jannau> base64 pastebin
<leio> I see an extra DTD and a DisplayID extension header, plus it's EDID version 4, not 3
<leio> but nothing really about 240 Hz
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<jannau> the DisplayID extension block contains a timing descriptor
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<leio> I guess I should maybe also try an export from amdgpu over HDMI
<jannau> that was amd via DP?
<leio> but otherwise, can we cook up something that has 240 Hz outside VTDB to load in
<leio> that was DP, yes
<jannau> HDMI on AMD should be limited to 60Hz since there is no HDMI 2.1 support
<leio> my AMD GPU is quite old too - it only offers me 120Hz there too, and actually can't drive 4K at that
<leio> no DSC support, I think
<leio> which is implied with no HDMI 2.1 support
<leio> it's a vega
<jannau> not sure if the display exports a specific EDID in that situation
<leio> (the above 120 Hz only and its woes were with DP)
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<mkurz> When I close the lid of my Macbook Pro M1 Pro and put it in my backpack, each day after coming home from work (like say 1 hour after closing the lid) the laptop still is warm, like if something still running?
<mkurz> is it a knows problem that some hardware is not fully suspended?
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<j`ey> mkurz: yes, especially on the pro/max
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<mkurz> j`ey: thanks! out of interest, you know which hardware does not suspend currently?
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<jannau> mkurz: it's not just suspend. the m1 pro/max have too high idle power use
<mkurz> jannau: ok, thanks
<jannau> the soc's cache and memory system is likely part of the problem
<mkurz> jannau: hmm ok
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<leio> jannau: Vega amdgpu gives me the same EDID over HDMI as BetterDisplay over HDMI
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<leio> and I don't think the monitor has anything other than 2 HDMI and 1 DisplayPort input
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<leio> I can't spot the DisplayID stuff from di-edid-decode
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<leio> Trying to add a 240 Hz DTD with this EDID editor thing tells me the pixel clock is too high
<jannau> from the edid editor? Ignore it
<leio> well, it doesn't let me do what I wanted - add a 240 Hz DTD
<jannau> I guess you want the DisplayID block from the first edid in https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2184209#p2184209
<leio> what about me not seeing the existing DisplayID stuff with edid-decode? Was I blind?
<leio> https://bpa.st/MQBDS was what it gave me for the DP one
<jannau> in the amd DP edid? my edid-decode can't parse it
<leio> I had to run from git instead of my packaged 2.0 for it
<leio> but I was referring to "<jannau> the DisplayID extension block contains a timing descriptor", I think we talked past eachother
<leio> that's the HDMI one?
<leio> for that I got https://bpa.st/V76LY
<leio> don't understand how the output is so different
<jannau> no, that's for the 384 byte one. the hdmi has just 2 blocks of 128 bytes. the DisplayID is in the 3rd block
<jannau> different tool capabilities
<leio> hrmph, AW EDID Editor doesn't support Video Timings Mode Type 7, it has only up to 6
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<leio> Looks like I need FEX and wine working to be able to come up with something with windows CRU EDID tool or something :S
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<leio> BetterDisplay did muck up the OS-Managed EDID to something 384 byte at one point when retrieved back, but then afterwards it didn't seem to change at all anymore (when retrieved back), so that's fun to work with as well.
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<jannau> leio: https://paste.centos.org/view/ae7841c0 that's the edid from the arch linux forum recreated
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