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<Habbie> neggles, haha
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<ynezz> f00b4r0: so I've cherry picked those new devices to 22.03, but that QCA9561 fix has to wait for upstream review/feedback
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<f00b4r0> ynezz: sure. Can I add your Tested-by for the upstream submission?
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<ynezz> f00b4r0: yep
<f00b4r0> ynezz: thanks. I'll send it then. Just to confirm, did you test on XD3200 too?
<ynezz> yes
<f00b4r0> ok.
<f00b4r0> last question: I'll send patches for 21.02 backport too: for the A930 I'm cherry-picking + changing nvmem to mtd-mac-address, is the following the correct way to show this in the commit message:
<f00b4r0> (cherry-picked from commit a05dcb07241aa83a4416b56201e31b4af8518981)
<f00b4r0> [switch to mtd-mac-address instead of nvmem-cells]
<ynezz> yes
<f00b4r0> thanks
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<rsalvaterra> Ok, a long time ago, in my tree, I removed the usb feature from mt7621/target.mk (because the RM2100 doesn't have USB). Now, make oldconfig is prompting me for USB-related stuff. And setting CONFIG_USB_SUPPORT=y. Even after removing /tmp. WTF…! o_O
<rsalvaterra> And no, my kconfig doesn't have CONFIG_USB enabled.
<rsalvaterra> I'm seeing weird things.
<rsalvaterra> Imma pushing the big red button (make distclean).
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<rsalvaterra> No use. (WTF)².
<mrkiko> I would need a 1GB switch that runs OpenWRt or is unmanaged ("plain") but high quality enough to work reliably. If it runs OpenWRt, it would be cool if it had a recovery procedure not involving UART soldering or connection. Any suggestion?
<rsalvaterra> Commenting the line that adds the usb feature depending on the kconfig "fixes" the problem, so something is wonky in my kconfig, perhaps… hm.
<mrkiko> or may I use an openwrt router as a switch? :D
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<rsalvaterra> I can't belive I'm going to have to hack include/target.mk…!
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<slh64> mrkiko: the 'safe' bet would be the ZyXEK gs1900 range of switches, sturdy metal case serial is available on an internal pre-populated 4 pin header with 2.54mm spacing. on some switches this header is even accessible from the outside, through the venting holes. but its usable flash size is a bit limited (7.6 MB), on the plus side, there are no different unsupported h/w revisions to account for
<slh64> check in advance if your model already has OpenWrt support (two models have pending PRs, patches for a third haven't been submitted yet, but are available). midels range from 8 to 48 ports, with- or without PoE, the smaller devices are fanless
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<slh64> the D-Link DGS-1210 has more flash (and some models more RAM), but there you do have to solder, remove board and screwed-on heatsink to get to the unpopulated header - and you do have to be very careful to fetch the correct h/w revision
<Habbie> is the openwrt wiki hardware table also the place to document devices that will never ever run openwrt? i ask because recently -i- would have loved to find exactly that information for a few devices
<slh64> Habbie: that would be better suited to wikidevi
<Habbie> oh, is there a non-dead version?
<Habbie> deviwiki.com?
<slh64> yeah (but they also seem to share data)
<Habbie> ok
<slh64> mrkiko: some of the larger gs1900 models might require soldering, check the wiki for your desired model
<svanheule> mrkiko: Cisco SG220 models have an RJ45 (Cisco-style) RS232 port, but none of those are officially supported yet
<svanheule> they also tend to use those shared clock line on bitbanged I2C busses (sensors, SFP cages), which are unfortunately not straightforward to support :-(
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<ynezz> rsalvaterra: ugh, did I broke something with my recent changes in target.mk?
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<rsalvaterra> ynezz: Not sure, I think you're innocent, since you didn't touch the code I yanked out.
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<Habbie> good news, i can boot a kernel on this very old very small device
<Habbie> bad news, it OOMs 300ms in
<Habbie> :D
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<hurricos> Habbie: which device?
<hurricos> mrkiko: GS1900-24HP!
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<hurricos> Or any of the GS1900's. If they fail to boot multiple times they switch partitions; they have an A and B partition; you leave the OEM firmware in the second partition.
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<hurricos> GS1900 has full DSA support, so you can switch and route as needed.
<wentasah> Hi, can somebody create a wiki account for me? I want to fill in procd ubus commands https://openwrt.org/docs/techref/procd#ubus_command_interface.
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<mrkiko> hurricos: thanks a lot!!/last-highlight
<mrkiko> slh64: svanheule: thanks!!!!!
<robimarko_> xback: You here=
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<rsalvaterra> Habbie: What kernel? :)
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<Habbie> rsalvaterra, uh, whatever came with openwrt 15.05 i think
<Habbie> rsalvaterra, 3.18.20
<Habbie> rsalvaterra, i almost choked on my drink when i saw this last line pop up:
<Habbie> [ 4.900000] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: Out of memory and no killable processes...
<Habbie> [ 4.900000]
<Habbie> [ 82.730000] random: nonblocking pool is initialized
<Habbie> hurricos, https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/Sitecom_WL-330 (I'll fill the other fields later, but it appears to be a 4MB/32MB device - although uboot tells the kernel it's 16?!)
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<hauke> rmilecki: could you please have alook at this pull request: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/9643
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<Kardy> Hello openwrt-devel folks. Not sure if this is the correct forum for my questions about the build system...
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<Habbie> Kardy, you won't find out until you ask
<Kardy> Hi Habbie. I know, just wasnt sure about the forum.. :)
<Habbie> i'll tell you two things
<Habbie> one, both this channel and #openwrt sometimes just don't respond to questions - because the right person wasn't awake, or didn't have time, etc.
<Habbie> two, if your question clearly belongs somewhere else, you'll hear it - unless condition one applies :)
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<Kardy> i see. ok, so...
<Kardy> I would like to build ARCH=mxs kernel where the NAND/GPMI driver is included (currently is not). Modding the kernel config is obvious (what/where). However, is there something like a "defconfig" in/part of the buildsystem? It seems to me "everything" has to be manually "menuconfiged".
<Borromini> there's lots of defconfigs, if you go through some makefiles you'll see certain stuff depending on ARCH x or y, or driver z or z' e.g.
<Borromini> some targets have also some flags set that pick up some features by default afaik
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<Kardy> so, just mod the kernel config and "make"?
<Kardy> i dont need to do pkg selection or "anything"?
<Borromini> no modding the kernel config is the wrong way, you want OpenWrt's buildroot to do that for you.
<Borromini> after all, that's what ticking stuff in 'make menuconfig' does
<Borromini> e.g. for target specific flags: see target/linux/ath79/nand/target.mk
<Borromini> you can configure the kernel yourself directly in the buildroot but that is indeed fully manual (and not how you want to do things unless you're tinkering)
<Kardy> sadly there no menuconfig for the GPMI/NAND to build as a module, so i assume it has to included in the kernel image (thus my attempt for manual kernel conf)
<Kardy> i'll take a look at the file you've mentioned, i guess i've overlooked something obvious :)
<Borromini> no, that's higher level, but you can create a makefile for drivers so they show up
<Borromini> but stuff in package/kernel/ should give you some pointers I think
<Kardy> ah, haven't thought of that, modding the menuconfig it self to do the job... thnx for that
<Borromini> Kardy: you can patch the kernel config for your target if it's just for personal use, like e.g. https://forum.openwrt.org/t/r6700v2-led-question/85836/15
<Borromini> especially if you need it compiled in that's the way to go. If you want it to be a module, you can write a Makefile if you'd like it go get into OpenWrt proper
<Kardy> is for a custom mxs board with NAND storage; Thanks to you both! The docu and the forum post are what i was looking for!
<Kardy> private use
<Borromini> :)
<Kardy> The help is much appreciated, i was getting desperate "doing all the menuconfig" by hand; "make download world" to the rescue!
<Kardy> Also reading the correct docs (was fighting with the SDK & imagebuilder) helps :D
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<hurricos> Habbie: RIP :( 16/32s are really common with RT3052s and ramips in general
<Habbie> hurricos, the chip I can identify really is 16 - wonder why uboot says 32
<Kardy> Once more, thanks to you both for your help and time. Time to RTFM.
<Habbie> hurricos, i haven't found an openwrt image (on downloads) that will run from RAM on it, sadly
<Habbie> hurricos, (because i want to dump the flash)
<hurricos> Otoh ... 32 should die >:)
<Habbie> oh sure
<Habbie> i have no illusions about -usefully- booting openwrt on it
<hurricos> and you won't find me clinging to the last moment on my uh, my MR16s. Nope.
<Habbie> i'm just using this EUR 2,50 device to practice my openwrt and hardware hacking so i don't blow up a 80 EUR device later
* hurricos suppresses a tear
<hurricos> Nice!
<Habbie> i did actually install 18.06 on a 4/32 device last week for actual usage
<Habbie> /dev/mtdblock3 320.0K 220.0K 100.0K 69% /overlay
<Habbie> can't say it's fun though
<Borromini> i've managed 21.02 on an 8/32 device so far, but 22.03/master will break a lot of those, with WPA3 and its crypto dependencies
<Borromini> if anyone gets 22.03 on 8 MiB devices with WPA3 (no PPPoE or LuCI or anything needed) I'd be happy to hear, but it seems the bigger kernel does them in as well.
<Habbie> does wpa3 require recent hardware or is it just software?
<Habbie> (that 4/32 box has luci, so i could probably improve the disk space situation if i wanted to)
<hurricos> Habbie: It requires SAE which requires your driver to be happy about managing encryption keys on a two-tuple MAC-addess basis
<hurricos> pretty much all hardware can. Some, though ... I doubt brcmfmac or mwlwifi will be happy about that.
<hurricos> b43 doesn't use hardware cryptography, so no worries there.
<Habbie> right
<Habbie> if they leave enough to the software, it'll work if the driver does it
<hurricos> well, no driver can realistically do the encryption. So if the hardware has complicated key management for its hw crypto engines ...
<Borromini> a lot of ath9k devices still seem to be able to manage
<Habbie> so, related unrelated, what i'm really looking for right now is some uImage that'll boot on 16MB, in RAM, and gives me enough to read flash
<Habbie> any ideas? :)
<Habbie> (mips 24kc)
<hurricos> ramips?
<Habbie> yes
<hurricos> disable everything in the kernel.
<Habbie> i updated this just now
<Habbie> with all i know
<hurricos> and use an ancient kernel
<Habbie> hurricos, so grab 18.06 or 19.07 and disable what i can?
<hurricos> No
<hurricos> go earlier
<hurricos> :P
<Habbie> i have January 2012 checked out in openwrt.git but scripts/feeds can't even find things ;)
<hurricos> aww ;(
<Habbie> the 15.05 images on downloads OOM 300ms after boot
<Habbie> so i'll have to find some sweet spot that builds so i can strip it ;)
<hurricos> I also think XIP is a no-go, even if you were OK losing some flash
<Habbie> XIP?
<hurricos> actually, I don't even think Linux would ever like that
<hurricos> running from NOR
<hurricos> that MXIC
<hurricos> Execute In Place :P
<Habbie> oh right
<Habbie> like many MCUs do
<hurricos> right
<Habbie> i wonder if the 32mbyte that u-boot reports is about that
<Habbie> but, I meant from RAM (via TFTP), not XIP from NOR
<hurricos> yeah ...
<Habbie> i really wish uboot on this thing would allow me to dump flash
<hurricos> it's 4MB anyways
<hurricos> do you not have anything like md?
<Habbie> it has md
<Habbie> but that's memory, not flash, right?
<hurricos> it's SPI NOR. It's mapped to memory.
<Habbie> ohh
<hurricos> what is the default bootcmd?
<hurricos> it's probably `bootm $ramaddr`
<Habbie> so, fun story, if i do nothing, it boots from flash (i can get you logs)
<Habbie> but if i go into uboot, bootcmd=tftp
<Habbie> however, i have a bootm line that works
<Habbie> ok
<Habbie> so dump that
<hurricos> so ok ok hold on.
<hurricos> Look, the NOR is always going to be available at a specific memory offset
<hurricos> look for commands which print memory information
<Habbie> i can work with this
<Habbie> thank you for that bit :)
<hurricos> yeah!
<hurricos> that's why NOR is nice :^)
<Habbie> i was wondering why it didn't say "loading from flash, please wait" and why bootm just worked :D
<Habbie> hurricos, so NAND flash is generally not memory mapped?
<hurricos> Right, becuase NAND isn't executable :D
<hurricos> err
<hurricos> specifically like, you can read very tiny regions on NOR
<Habbie> ta, will read
<Slimey> ahhh
<Habbie> hurricos, so, this means the CPU/SoC has the capability to map SPI NOR?
<hurricos> Yes!
<hurricos> For example, the MR16 uses the bootcmd `bootm 0xbf0a0000`.
<Habbie> it's 0xbfsomething here too
<hurricos> It clearly doesn't have >3GB of RAM ....
<Habbie> will experiment in a moment
<hurricos> might as well try 0xbf000000
<hurricos> if you read invalid memory it'll just hang :P
<Habbie> oh i have the number in my pastebuffer on the other desk
<hurricos> fwiw, you actually DO copy the RAM into the right memory region
<hurricos> it just does so silently
<Habbie> ack
<hurricos> and probably with some compression.
<Habbie> oh, any clue how i would pass kernel cmdline args in this case?
<hurricos> probably `setenv cmdline`.
<hurricos> the kernel command line arguments get copied into a memory region which is pointed to by one of the initial boot registers
<hurricos> or at least that's how it's done in PowerPC
<Habbie> ack
<hurricos> I'm sure it's no different in MIPS
<Slimey> hurricos do you want to play a game?
<hurricos> Slimey: No :^)
<Habbie> it boots into some ncurses-like thing that asks me user/pass, and i have no idea what it wants from me
<Habbie> if i hold the reset button for 10 seconds, i get a root prompt for 1 second :D
<hurricos> Habbie: Yes, but as long as you get the `md` dump you can send us the content
<Slimey> its one of those puzzle things where you have to find something, so in this picture find the EEPROM chip, https://i.imgur.com/N6SONAW.jpeg
<hurricos> at which point we can fish for an md5 or md2 table and find the hash
<Habbie> hurricos, yep
<Habbie> hurricos, don't even know if it's a hash, but we'll find out
<hurricos> Slimey: How did you get a photograph of my room?
<Slimey> :P
<Habbie> Slimey, why is there a blanket on my other desk? :)
<Slimey> i moved a to new house and just started unpacking
<Slimey> haha
<hurricos> I can't find the eeprom.
<Habbie> i suspect there are roughly 12 eeproms in this picture
<Slimey> its on the wap sitting on the white label
<hurricos> there are at least a few WAPs in this photograph.
<hurricos> Habbie: let me know as soon as you ahve a copy of the dump, or even just the raw console output
<Slimey> still looking for that hash?
<Habbie> raw console output of md you mean?
<hurricos> yes.
<Habbie> got it
<hurricos> I'm assuming you're at 115200 baud so
<Habbie> 57600
<hurricos> if not, ouch
<hurricos> not bad, its only what, 5 minutes of `md`.
<Habbie> 9.26 minutes multiplied by however md formats things ;)
<hurricos> I assumed 4 chars per byte and said
<hurricos> (4096*1024)/(57600/4)
<hurricos> anyways
<Habbie> 57600 is in bits
<hurricos> oh wtf.
<Habbie> :)
<Habbie> there's no rush here anyway
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<PaulFertser> 57600 is in baud, so with 8 bits, no stop bits, 1 stop bit (and one start bit) per byte it'll be 10/8 slower than bit/s.
<Habbie> that too :)
<PaulFertser> I was told recently to go read about 8b/10b SERDES way of coding to see how this traditional 57600 baud for UART can be viewed as 5760 symbols per second transmission, and there was a fair point in it.
<Habbie> symbols, but not bytes?
<Habbie> also, my 9.26 minutes missed 8/10
<PaulFertser> Symbols, yes.
<PaulFertser> Talking about traditional UART as something that transmits those 8b symbols would be stretching the definition, I agree, but still interesting learning opportunity.
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<Habbie> indeed :)
<Habbie> .. 7 minutes later, of course this also means 5760 bytes per second
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<hurricos> Oh no.
<KGB-0> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_x86.html has been updated. (100.0% images and 100.0% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)
<hurricos> It looks like ServeTheHome documented all of their firmware manipulation process for all of their hacked-up cracked-open decade-old top-of-the-shelf cloud-native enterprise hardware.
<hurricos> neggles: Including how to flash an LB6M (24 x SFP+) over to a layer-3 compatible firmware
<hurricos> and it's *powerpc*
<hurricos> MPC8541 :eyes:
<hurricos> BCM56820 :eyes:
<Habbie> hurricos, more memory mapped SPI NOR? :)
<hurricos> Oh, do you have some for me, or?
<Habbie> no, just responding to brokeaid.com
<hurricos> oh
<hurricos> No, this is just ... crazy stuff. It's good to finally see this get documented. I don't think we're ever gonna see DSA support for BCM56820, but then again, maybe I should try to be the change I want to see in the world?
<hurricos> (I have no idea how to even go about starting to implement DSA support. :^)
<Habbie> hehe
<Habbie> as for the change, either you do it or somebody else - but is there somebody else?
<hurricos> Or I just settle for learning Fastpath which is apparently the best firmware here :^)
<hurricos> or, sorry. Brocade's CLI is what I'd have to learn, which is apparently very similar to Cisco's. Brocade's software stack is on top of Fastpath.
<hurricos> Looks like any hardware with this switching silicon in it will be running using Fastpath. First I've heard of it to be honest.
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<hurricos> realistically though, this hardware fits in the very tiny niche of "more SFP+ ports than Realtek", and that's it. And it won't keep that for long as more vendors pick up RTL93xx's
<hurricos> thanks to folks here like svanheule getting way ahead of that eventual inrush
<hurricos> also this page: https://fohdeesha.com/docs/linux.html
<hurricos> I got there looking up *this*: https://fohdeesha.com/docs/jtag.html
<hurricos> (since I'm looking for non-BDI2000 ways of getting JTAG working on mpc85xx / p1020)
<hurricos> no, BDI-3000 is not a better alternative.
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