#openwrt-devel on 2022-06-23 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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06:38 <russell--> stintel: is sysupgrade supposed to work?

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07:30 <Habbie> hurricos, neheb fixed luajit for ppc \o/

07:46 <rsalvaterra> Hm… luajit. Isn't that the Lua implementation which exactly like canonical Lua, except for the parts where it isn't?

07:47 <Habbie> it's pretty much like lua 5.1 plus a few things

07:47 <Habbie> newer luas have diverged from it a bit

07:47 <Habbie> (or luajit has failed to catch up, depending on perspective)

07:48 <rsalvaterra> Right. :/

07:49 <Habbie> as an almost full time user, this rarely bothers me, to be honest

07:49 <Habbie> (there are incidents, like yesterday, when i learned the return value of os.execute changed in lua 5.2)

07:50 <rsalvaterra> IIRC, LuCI doesn't use luajit, does it?

07:51 <Habbie> it doesn't

07:53 <dwfreed> but I'm assuming Habbie wants to switch dnsdist and/or pdns auth/rec to use it on openwrt

07:53 <Habbie> yes, I have an open PR for switching dnsdist; CI failed on powerpc; so neheb unbroke luajit on powerpc

07:54 <Habbie> it's been broken since somewhere between 21.02 and 22.03

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08:01 <mangix> I was lucky upstream had patches

08:02 <Habbie> ack :)

08:02 <mangix> hmmm I recently upgraded nextcloud to 23.0.6. now it's telling me 24.0.2 is available

08:02 <Habbie> i'm somewhat surprised ppc+fpu also needed the patches

08:02 <Habbie> but i'm not complaining :)

08:02 <mangix> Habbie: why would that be?

08:03 <Habbie> my problem was on 464fp

08:13 <Habbie> which i understand has FPU - otherwise we wouldn't even be trying to build luajit

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08:30 <Habbie> ah, ppc fpu is most likely fixed by one of the other two patches you imported, that makes sense

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08:44 <stintel> russell--: yes

08:44 <stintel> russell--: but if it takes long you might hit the watchguard timeout and it resets before completing sysupgrade

08:44 <stintel> solution is to rmmod w8something before running sysupgrade

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08:45 <stintel> discovered that only last week, and currently on holiday, don't have a real fix yet

08:45 <robimarko> stintel: I hit something similar with hostapd while developing IPQ807x

08:45 <robimarko> Interestingly, it only affects one board

08:46 <robimarko> hostapd does not stop in time and sysupgrade basically just reboots the board

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08:51 <stintel> robimarko: could also be watchdog related, but that would mean an incompatibility between procd watchdog handling and the actual watchdog driver

08:51 <stintel> because sysupgrade does handover of the watchdog fd

08:51 <BKPepe> Habbie: That's why I backported luajit fixes from Mangix to the stable branches.

08:52 <robimarko> stintel: Hm, the watchdog driver is the same one that IPQ40xx and IPQ806x use

08:52 <Habbie> BKPepe, i see it, wonderful

08:52 <robimarko> And only Xiaomi AX3600 seems to be hit, other boards upgrade just fine

08:54 <robimarko> stintel: Can you point me to the watchdog code, I will do some debugging

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08:58 <stintel> robimarko: jow had an idea, it's in https://git.openwrt.org/?p=project/procd.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/staging/stintel/watchdog

08:58 <stintel> have not tested yet

08:58 <robimarko> stintel: Thanks, will give it a look

08:58 <stintel> cool!

08:59 <mangix> BKPepe: I assume you have an interest for TOS6 :P

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08:59 <stintel> I tried to add the remaining time to the ubus output but failed miserably :P

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09:01 <BKPepe> Mangix: Indeed! We could drop there unbound and use Knot Resolver for all our routers.

09:03 <BKPepe> Still I wonder how did you succeed with that, but honestly, if it works, I dont care. :-D

09:20 <russell--> stintel: i got a "Thu Jun 23 09:19:28 UTC 2022 upgrade: Image metadata not present" and "Image check failed." message trying to sysupgrade with openwrt-qoriq-generic-watchguard_firebox-m300-squashfs-sdcard.img.gz

09:21 <stintel> russell--: that's not the sysupgrade image

09:21 <russell--> lol, good point

09:22 <kistlin> someone here who can help out troubleshoot no internet with an LTE module in QMI mode?

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09:22 <russell--> the right image works ;-)

09:22 <kistlin> with uqmi i see serving system is reasonable and --get-signal-info is "lte"

09:23 <kistlin> and /dev/cdc-wdm0 is available and configured

09:23 <kistlin> and there is a wwan0 which is DOWN

09:23 <stintel> russell--: yeah I've been using 2 M300 as main+backup router for almost a year now, only when I enabled I2C support the watchdog turned up and I started having sysupgrade issues on the main, because there's some big files in /tftpboot causing sysupgrade to take longer than watchdog timeout

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09:28 <stintel> russell--: you can always test https://github.com/f00b4r0/openwrt/commits/m300 if you want LED and reset button support, or my qoriq-5.15 branch for 5.15 kernel

09:29 <stintel> I just need to fix some missing symbols that are exposed by some of the CONFIG_KERNEL_* options enabled in my config first

09:29 <stintel> that's why I didn't push that to master yet

09:29 <russell--> no hurry, i just finally started poking at it

09:30 <russell--> it's been sitting on my basement floor since early march

09:30 <stintel> :)

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09:51 <kistlin> ok i got internet, but what is weird is in the config it is in network.wanX but with ifconfig it shows up as wwan0. to make it work ifup wan2 was necessary

09:52 <kistlin> how can this name discrepancy be explained?

09:54 <robimarko> hauke: Did you maybe have the time to look at my backports patch for QMI helpers?

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10:04 <rsalvaterra> stintel: Tested yesterday, MT7622 handles 500/100 Mb/s with cake SQM just fine, loadavg < 0.5. :)

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10:06 <stintel> rsalvaterra: loadavg not very useful there I think, check softirq in top instead

10:07 <rsalvaterra> I did. About 55 % of CPU time. ;)

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10:10 <rsalvaterra> The Omnia, in comparison, gets completely drowned in softirq. And the downstream throughput tops at about 250 Mb/s. Not good.

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10:12 <SwedeMike> it likes fq_codel better

10:15 <rsalvaterra> Every device likes fq_codel better. Cake does a much better job, though, and you pay the price with CPU time.

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10:16 <robimarko> Is cake multithreaded or you get stuck with one core suffering?

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10:16 <rsalvaterra> I think it's single-threaded, that's one of the issues (or at least it was, I haven't followed the develompent in a while).

10:17 <rsalvaterra> *development

10:18 <robimarko> Ugh, so it would hog core 0 which is also handling everything else

10:20 <rsalvaterra> Not necessarily, threads can move between cores.

10:20 <robimarko> Yeah, if you manually balance them

10:20 <robimarko> By default you will get stuck with IRQ-s and everything else being handled by core 0

10:21 <robimarko> At least that has been my experience

10:21 <SwedeMike> rsalvaterra: better job in what way? For the home gateway use-case I haven't seen such claims.

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10:22 <SwedeMike> https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Cake/ doesn't list anything crucial that I'd call "much better"

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10:23 <rsalvaterra> SwedeMike: Simple. Without cake, I don't get A+ on the DSLReports bufferbloat tests.

10:23 <stintel> SwedeMike: try for yourself

10:24 <jow> kistlin: on openwrt, ifup/ifdown deal wirth logical interface names (config interface xxx sections in /e/c/network)

10:24 <jow> kistlin: ifconfig shows linux network devices

10:24 <SwedeMike> stintel: I have, for years.

10:25 <SwedeMike> rsalvaterra: ok, weird, I get A+ with fq_codel

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10:25 <stintel> SwedeMike: then you might just have one of the few ISPs that properly do things on their end

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10:25 <rsalvaterra> SwedeMike: You have a good ISP, then. Unfortunately, that's not the case for the vast majority of people.

10:25 <stintel> although in my experiments cake even improves latency over fq_codel on a 10GbE LAN

10:25 <rsalvaterra> Never assume your own experience as being the norm.

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10:27 <SwedeMike> I don't. I've been involved with the bufferbloat peeps since 2015 or so

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10:29 <SwedeMike> I first met Dave Täht and Jim Gettys at an IETF meeting in 2014-2015 something

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10:30 <SwedeMike> cake was first "sold" as having less CPU overhead and did everything right "out of the box", but later it was discovered that in some use-cases it uses more CPU, and that's definitely true for my use-case

10:33 <rsalvaterra> That's weird, I've never seen any claims of cake using less CPU than fq_codel, quite the contrary.

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10:35 <SwedeMike> "At line (native) rate cake uses more cpu than what fq_codel does.

10:35 <SwedeMike> At a shaped rate, it does much better than htb + fq_codel does."

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10:36 <stintel> unfortunately line rate and Internet connection are rarely identical

10:37 <SwedeMike> I'm shaping to 900/900 and cake still uses more CPU than fq_codel

10:37 <rsalvaterra> SwedeMike: What's the definition of "does much better" in that sentence? Are we still talking about CPU time, or latency figures?

10:37 <SwedeMike> rsalvaterra: I have no idea.

10:37 <rsalvaterra> Seems quite ambiguous to me.

10:38 <SwedeMike> rsalvaterra: but my guess was that it meant "cpu wise"

10:38 <rsalvaterra> Actually, I guessed the opposite. :)

10:38 <kistlin> jow: thanks, i'll look that up

10:39 <rsalvaterra> I read it as "does a better job".

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10:42 <ldir> the reality is that cake is quite heavy because it's doing quite a lot of things. shaper, host fairness, dscp (un)fairness and flow isolation underneath all of that.

10:42 <SwedeMike> rsalvaterra: I sent a question to Dave Täht and asked.

10:44 <ldir> nothing else to my knowledge does per-host fairness especially with the NAT lookups. All of these features cost cpu.

10:46 <rsalvaterra> ^ this.

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13:08 <stintel> woot, managed to enable 802.11k and 802.11v in esphome

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13:20 <Slimey> heh projector troubles? maybe spiders. https://imgur.com/gallery/uqgJrTa

13:33 <Ansuel> fascinating

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14:00 <Habbie> luaposix, lua-bit32 depend on lua (the package that contains /usr/bin/lua); libuci-lua, libubus-lua, libubox-lua depend on liblua

14:00 <Habbie> i believe both sets are wrong and they should not depend on lua/liblua at all

14:00 <Habbie> any different opinions?

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14:16 <KGB-1> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_omap.html has been updated. (11.1% images and 99.9% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)

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14:27 <mrkiko> Hello all! I'm back!

14:27 <mrkiko> nbd: what do you think about the dumps I sent?

14:30 <nbd> mrkiko: i'll talk to somebody at mtk about that...

14:31 <mrkiko> nbd: thanks a lot. If I can do anything to help out or get some more useful infos let me know

14:31 <nbd> will do, thanks

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14:43 <mrkiko> nbd: do you have any idea if this problem happens with the stock mtk wi-fi driver for mt7622?

14:45 <nbd> no idea

14:45 <nbd> sent an email to mtk asking for clarification on the firmware reported errors

14:51 <mrkiko> nbd: thanks, I am grateful about this; I've not been able to trigger this issue without the help of an iDevice, and the problem manifests itself while an iDevice is in normal use, but takes time. So trigger it quickly, disconnecting / reconnecting with the iDevice by disabling and re-enabling the iDevice wi-fi via Settings app (or control center, but ONLY if in airplane mode).

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16:14 <owrt-2203-builds> Build [#65](https://buildbot.openwrt.org/openwrt-22.03/images/#builders/40/builds/65) of `mvebu/cortexa53` failed.

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17:09 <owrt-2203-builds> Build [#66](https://buildbot.openwrt.org/openwrt-22.03/images/#builders/63/builds/66) of `at91/sama7` failed.

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18:26 <mangix> BKPepe: was just a matter of backporting patches. The last one needed manual modification as the original wasn't written with softfloat support

18:32 <KGB-0> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_lantiq.html has been updated. (96.2% images and 99.9% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)

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20:00 <FriendlyNGeeks> stintel: Okay i've got this webchat irc open on a server so Ill be able to see your reply. I was trying to test your RpiZero2 snapshot but I think i'm missing a step

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20:32 <robimarko_> Anybody got a recommendation for a 2.5/5/10G PCIe NIC?

20:32 <robimarko_> I really need something faster than the onboard 1G intel

20:33 <svanheule> robimarko_: something X550 based, or ACQ107?

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20:36 <robimarko_> svanheule: Gotta check ebay

20:36 <robimarko_> New ones are rather expensive

20:37 <svanheule> I got a new ACQ107 card (single port) for €100, not sure what your budget is

20:38 <robimarko_> Around that would be perfect

20:38 <robimarko_> X550-T2 is nice, but 280+ EUR

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23:37 <stintel> friendlyngeeks: explain the problem and someone else might be able to help you, I'm on holiday until Monday

23:38 <stintel> but I'm thinking you're staring blind at the message you're seeing which is also the last message I'm seeing on my rpi02w

23:38 <stintel> yet it works fine

23:39 * stintel crawls back in his tent

23:40 <FriendlyNGeeks> so i should attempt to hit the server, anyone here look at boot sequence on rpi and it stops at camera-dummy-reg???