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<Gramdalf> I'm messing around in openwrt working on various things, and pretty much any shell variables I've seen have been uppercase - is there a reason for that? Stack overflow suggests that variables should be lowercase unless exported: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/673055/correct-bash-and-shell-script-variable-capitalization
<Gramdalf> Does anyone know if openwrt follows that convention? Or is there something else going on?
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<dwfreed> Gramdalf: where are you looking?
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<dwfreed> in makefiles, variables are generally always all uppercase
<slh> uppercase is kind of a convention for shell scripts, no technical necessity, but it's commonly done that way
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<dwfreed> there's no rules, people do whatever they want
<slh> just follow what's already the coding style within that file and you won't be yelled at, maybe ;)
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<Gramdalf> All right, sounds good ;)
<schmars[m]> karlp: regarding ucode-mod-uloop earlier, i was having it poll itself to death on a bad file descriptor because i didn't uloop.init() - all good :) AND i was running master ucode packages on a 22.03 image...
<Gramdalf> Couple more questions:
<Gramdalf> 1. Is /etc/fstab controlled by uci? My guess is no, from what I can tell on the wiki.
<dwfreed> block-mount uses a uci /etc/config/fstab
<Gramdalf> 2. Is it bad to invoke `uci show` or similar in a `/etc/init.d` script? Is uci even functional at that point?
<dwfreed> it is functional, but there's proper means to load uci data in init.d
<dwfreed> namely config_load
<dwfreed> (note there's no uci daemon; everything is just reading the config files themselves)
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<cc0_> Hi, i just installed openwrt 22.03.3 on my Archer C6 v2 (EU) router, and everything was working fine. Then I noticed the ...notice at the top of the page:
<cc0_> > Some users report much improved long-term stability with 5 GHz by using the closed-source ath10k firmware instead of the open-source ath10k-ct firmware. To do this remove the packages “kmod-ath10k-ct” and “ath10k-firmware-qca9888-ct” and instead install “kmod-ath10k” and “ath10k-firmware-qca9888”.
<cc0_> So I did just that, and power cycled my device. But now phy0 (the physical radio for 5GHz) does not appaear anymore in iw list, it's gone. Only phy1 (for 2.4GHz) is listed now.
<cc0_> In my kernel logs i can see:
<cc0_> Tue Mar 28 23:24:38 2023 kern.err kernel: [ 17.530896] ath10k_pci 0000:00:00.0: failed to fetch board data for bus=pci,bmi-chip-id=0,bmi-board-id=20 from ath10k/QCA9888/hw2.0/board-2.bin
<cc0_> Tue Mar 28 23:24:38 2023 kern.err kernel: [ 18.146271] ath10k_pci 0000:00:00.0: failed to fetch board-2.bin or board.bin from ath10k/QCA9888/hw2.0
<cc0_> Tue Mar 28 23:24:38 2023 kern.err kernel: [ 18.156024] ath10k_pci 0000:00:00.0: failed to fetch board file: -12
<cc0_> Tue Mar 28 23:24:38 2023 kern.err kernel: [ 18.179262] ath10k_pci 0000:00:00.0: could not probe fw (-12)
<cc0_> Do you have any hints on how I could fix this? I just followed the instructions and removed the two packets listed above and installed the replacement ones
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<cc0_> seems like there are multiple topics on the forums from people with the same issue. the notice should probably be removed because it does not work (and a full reinstallation is needed to make wifi work again)
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<mrkiko> cc0_: no one of these firmware is open source actually
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<olmari> Dunno how exactly archer c7 v2 differs, awesome perf and stability with ct-ht(t?)-full ath10k firmware variant
<stintel> have you tried enabling 802.11w connecting an apple device :P
<stintel> +and
<olmari> Tho I also compilef full iw and full wpad-openssl "stack"
<enyc> olmari: hrrm is that the same a BT-HHv5a ath10k?
<olmari> stintel: don't owe such rotten tomatoes.. We do have 2 SSID's tho... WPA2 and WPA3 variants.. Latter requiring 11w and earlier optional
<olmari> enyc: I have no clue what is BT-HHv5a
<olmari> ...(because combined compat mode wpa2/3 just does not work for every old device anyways)
<stintel> olmari: it's not about not connecting, it's about the firmware shitting itself every 2 seconds effectively rendering your 5GHz network unusable
<enyc> olmari: BT HomeHub V5 Type A which has some sort of ath9k+ath10k in it. https://openwrt.org/toh/bt/homehub_v5a ... in praticular I'm not sure if all ath10k are equivalent in practice including -ct firmware etc.
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<aiyion> norris: Have you seen the two updated patches for the Google device?
<hauke> This paper says OpenWrt 22.03 is vulnerable to a new wifi attack: https://papers.mathyvanhoef.com/usenix2023-wifi.pdf
<hauke> here is the code to exploit it: https://github.com/vanhoefm/macstealer
<hauke> I haven't read it all in detail yet
<hauke> nbd: are you aware of this?
<nbd> i wasn't aware of this
<stintel> enyc: now there's a reason for a new point release ^
<hauke> nbd: do you have some time and could take care of this?
<hauke> hopefully some people from hostapd or linux wireless are already working on this
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<nbd> hauke: i have to discuss this with johannes
<hauke> nbd: thanks
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<enyc> stintel: heh I was thinking that ;O
<enyc> stintel: however, it looks like will take awhile to be fathemed out properly I suspect.
<stintel> usually such issues get addressed rather quickly
<robimarko> Its weird, everybody is quiet about it
<stintel> it's in my Google feed today and someone of the local hacker lab shared it with me earlier
<stintel> probably just out?
<stintel> (didn't look yet, day job)
<Borromini> you have a day job? o_O
<stintel> 3 more days
<stintel> and then I'm taking a break for an indefinite time
<Borromini> :)
<Habbie> quit your job?
<stintel> layed off
<Habbie> ugh
<Borromini> stintel: that sucks, sorry to hear
<stintel> laid* off
<Borromini> from OpenWifi?
<stintel> RIF everywhere
<stintel> Meta, I already wasn't working on OpenWiFi for a while anymore
<Borromini> ok
<stintel> planned some travel, track day, etc
<robimarko> So they are laying off people now to then try and rehire them in a year
<Borromini> robimarko: same everywhere I guess...
<Borromini> i work in travel, when COVID hit tons of people got sacked (because, no travel)
<Borromini> now they can't rehire people quickly enough and lo and behold lots of them just left the line of work altogether
<robimarko> Well, its the classic corporate model
<stintel> I'll probably take the opportunity to do a startup
<Borromini> stintel: visiting friends and relatives or also some leisure travel planned?
<stintel> already have a working prototype / mvp for some idea I had for some years
<robimarko> Huge hiring boom, then layofs at first sight of profits droping
<Borromini> robimarko: yeah. Squeeze us like an orange
<Borromini> stintel: sounds cool. Hope it works out :)
<stintel> Borromini: both - I consider track day as leisure for example ;p
<Borromini> :D
<stintel> also meeting with some ex colleagues, pitch my idea, see if there's actual interest
<Borromini> :)
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<Borromini> question about 23.xx branching: will there be a cutoff date for targets not having 5.15? Or will we wait around until all active targets have been switched?
<Borromini> seems like some targets have very little interest when it comes to testing/migrating to 5.15
<Slimey> test and test often :)
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<f00b4r0> and here I thought I could keep my 19.07 devices around a while longer :P
<stintel> f00b4r0: just revert to OEM firmware, you'll have 14.something for free!
<f00b4r0> ;P
<Borromini> :P
<f00b4r0> I should just give up on wifi and only trust the noodly ethernet appendage
<Slimey> only if its +10GB or not interested
<stintel> [ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 10.6 GBytes 9.08 Gbits/sec receiver
<stintel> weeeeeeeeee
<Borromini> whatchadoin
<stintel> for some reason I get ~9 between 2 R515 with AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 4228 HE, but between one of those AMD and the newer Xeon(R) CPU E5-2673 v4 @ 2.30GHz in my workstation, I get only ~5Gbps
<f00b4r0> stintel: jumbo frames?
<stintel> f00b4r0: hell no, you can't use jumbo frames almost ever :P
<f00b4r0> I do, almost always :)
<f00b4r0> they help even gige
<stintel> and you don't have MTU/MSS issues?
<Slimey> havent had jumbo frames ever even in out DCs
<Slimey> our
<f00b4r0> no, I use openwrt's default clamping rule and everything Just Works™
<stintel> ime it causes more trouble than it's worth
<Slimey> that
<stintel> maybe it's the cable - the one between switch and workstation is 30M
<Slimey> i still have nightmares of that time we where migrating away from cat6500's to nexus and someone wanted to test with using jumbo frames...
<stintel> CAT6a S/FTP
<stintel> should be able to do 10GbE at 100m
<stintel> guess it's low quality
<Slimey> everything here is MM/SM or twinax, no copper twisted pair to servers
<f00b4r0> do you have a switch in between?
<stintel> no, straight from switch to workstation
<f00b4r0> should be easy to check for Xmit errors
<f00b4r0> yes that's what I meant
<stintel> ah yes of course :P
<f00b4r0> so your switch should be able to tell you if something is wrong
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<f00b4r0> if no errors, the bottleneck isn't your network ;)
<stintel> 3 errors
<f00b4r0> seems low
<Slimey> over how long, that small is nothing to worry about usually
<f00b4r0> ^
<stintel> dunno if the counter resets on physical down or only on switch reboot or manual reset
<stintel> probably not on physical down looking at the numbenrs
<stintel> that's ~34TiB traffic in and ~26TiB out
<stintel> probably not since last physical down which was earlier today
<stintel> HUAWEI S6720-32C-PWH-SI Routing Switch uptime is 58 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes
<f00b4r0> pretty convinced the problem isn't at the physical network level
<stintel> k
<stintel> [ 19.907196] ixgbe 0000:02:00.0: 31.504 Gb/s available PCIe bandwidth (8.0 GT/s PCIe x4 link)
<stintel> PCIe also isn't going to be the problemn
<stintel> X550-T2 in the workstation, X540-T2 in the AMD servers
<Slimey> you dont happen to have one of those cable certificating testers do you? ;)
<stintel> nope
<stintel> only one with 9 LEDs :P
<f00b4r0> ethernet doesn't "scale down". If it syncs at max speed and there is no errors, the cable isn't the issue
<Slimey> still have one of those as well
<stintel> an all 3 are doing openvswitch
<stintel> well I could boot a live CD and exclude openvswitch on this side
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* f00b4r0 has to run, bbl
<stintel> anyway not *that* important
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<stintel> laterz
<stintel> I do see a bunch of discards
<djfe> If anyone has some time on their hands, feel free to review my PR https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/12198
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<djfe> I'm reusing established code (just a different target) for wifi path migration on sysupgrade.
<djfe> ok I just read the above about the wifi attack vector, uff.
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<norris> aiyion: yes, patches are in my inbox. I was planning to give them a quick run myself, but got caught up in other things (plus hitting build flakiness). I'll review today I hope
<aiyion> wasn't meant to make you go faster, just wanted to make sure you saw them. Please take your time :)
<aiyion> norris: ^
<aiyion> If you've got an idea, how I'd get the LED to be white instead of blue, that would be interesting in order to match the stock lighting pattern
<norris> aiyion: no worries. Today's a good day to check if my flaky builds succeeded, at a minimum ;)
<aiyion> ^^
<tom-> aiyion: higher voltage? :D
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<norris> aiyion: oh, I missed your question. I think you can enable all the colors to make white?
<norris> It's been a while since I played with them
<aiyion> norris: that's true; but how would I do that with led_running?
<norris> aiyion: no clue off hand. I'm really not that much of an expert with openwrt specifics. But I don't think it knows how to handle multi color LEDs much
<aiyion> Then I'll wait for your review. Thanks so far!
<norris> Also, who cares about stock configurations? Have a little fun with color in your life! I did a rainbow pattern for OnHub, which has like 27 (3x9) LEDs :D
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<mrkiko> norris: congrats for your great work on the onhub devices!
<philipp64> What happened to naoir's Git handle?
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<tmn505> what's wrong with it? The account still exists https://github.com/Naoir.
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<nbd> hauke: got some patches for the wifi issues from johannes
<nbd> working on integrating them now
<nbd> they only fix iwlwifi, but not other drivers
<nbd> so i have to do some more work
<nbd> actually, they fix other drivers as well, but in a heavy handed way that i'd like to avoid
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<hauke> nbd: thanks
<Ansuel> btw did we made some changes to how ccache is used with external toolchain? looking at github CI it looks like ccache works only for release but doesn't for master
<Ansuel> (master ccache size is 1-5 mb but release ccache are 170-250mb (a correct number for ccache run for a kernel compile))
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<philipp64> tmn505: I was trying to add him to the list of maintainers on a PR and for some reason Github didn't seem to recognize it...
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<tmn505> indeed, maybe some new privacy option in profile settings inhibits that.
<philipp64> noahm: any thoughts on issue #20468? should we be using `procd_add_reload_interface_trigger` or `procd_add_raw_trigger` to bind to watch for interface state changes?
<philipp64> also, are there any examples out there of a meta package that pulls in variants A or B of its parent package, plus additional external requirements? this is related to https://github.com/openwrt/packages/pull/20731/commits/31db968a79babee19f97c20cd4f89b8237300967
<philipp64> In this case, `isc-dhcp-dyndns` should require +bind-server, +bind-client, and (isc-dhcp-server-ipv4 OR isc-dhcp-server-ipv6) but I'm not sure what the proper expression of this should be.
<hauke> Ansuel: I see this already for many months
<hauke> the full build generates ~150MB chache data
<hauke> the kernel build only 1MB
<hauke> as far as I see it
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<Ansuel> hauke maybe adding some ccache stats may help in bisecting this... i wonder if the problem is that with external toolchain setup ccache is not used at all???
<Ansuel> but for sdk based toolchain yes?
<Ansuel> (release use toolchain generated from a sdk)
<hauke> ok
<hauke> I haven't looked into the details and I am also not very familiar with ccache
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<Ibarakasen> Hello, I would like to build python3 shapely package for OpenWRT. Currently it depends on numpy and requires its headers during compilation. How can I tackle the problem?
<Ibarakasen> Currently, the package requires numpy's headers without which it will not compile
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<Ibarakasen> Is there a way to pass parallel build to cmake when building OpenWRT?
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<Ibarakasen> One last thing: On a computational machine with Arch Linux, the target/linux/install goal fails where make does not find fwtool.
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<Tapper> How come onley 6 people at the OpenWrt Meeting?
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<Gramdalf> Is there any easy to understand documentation on uci? I'm trying to implement a custom subsystem, but the wiki isn't super clear to me. https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/base-system/uci
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<Mangix> Tapper: not popular enough I guess
<Tapper> lol
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