<slh> ashkan: keep in mind that ath11k /needs/ a lot more RAM than mt76 for itself, so what would otherwise be fine as a 512 MB RAM device with mt76 needs to have 1 GB for ipq807x
<stintel> haha, that reminds me of the day I discovered ath11k can't work on 256MB devices
<stintel> while I have 2 11ax MTK APs with 128MB RAM and each 10+ clients doing just fine
<stintel> I guess the gist is: if you care about customer satisfaction and QoE: MTK, if you care about price and profit: QCA
<slh> well, ipq807x stll does work quite nicely - as long as it is equipped with the RAM it needs (that is at the very least 512 MB, but you really want 1 GB)
<slh> it's all a question of what you can get on the market
<stintel> I mean you're talking at the very least 512MB while my APs do fine with 25% of that
<stintel> stop sending money to QCA and give it to MTK instead
<slh> and imho only filogic 830 is interesting enough, to replace an existing (as in 'free', because already paid for) ipq807x device - mt7622bv+mt7915 is a good option for a new buy though (and mt7621a+mt7915 if you just need an AP)
<stintel> so again, we should all stop sending money to QCA, so MTK can build a new SoC that really kicks QCA's ass, not only on some aspects)
<slh> https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/blocktrron.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0a066d607905f21859f9e44389ef3fe88f48129 might be such a device
<stintel> (I'm aware that MTK currently uses mostly old ARM CPUs)
<stintel> but I rather run a stable previous-gen device than the typical unstable QCA shizzle
<stintel> look at how long it took for a (3rd party) to add support for QCA AX devices
<stintel> MTK is doing an unmeasurably better job there
<slh> admittedly, it could have been merged ~a year earlier - but yes, it took almost 5 years to get ipq807x supported in OpenWrt
<slh> ...and support is (will always be-) lacking hw1.0 support
<stintel> QCA might theoretically the better performing hardware today, but I'd rather aim for something that is better maintainable in the future (from an OSS standpoint)
<slh> that#s without a doubt, yes
<stintel> so probably if you wanna run OpenWrt, say no to QCA and pay a bit extra for MTK
<ashkan> stintel: agreed also found a mt7986B based router with poe which looks very promising https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/TP-LINK_TL-XAP6030GI
<stintel> find me that with PoE-PT like the EAP615-Wall and I'll buy 20
<ashkan> but can't find any price tag for it
<stintel> oh my
<stintel> price tag usually isn't very relevant for me
<ashkan> I mean it doesn't exist on the market (yet?)
<stintel> ah :)
<stintel> that makes sense
<stintel> I'm dreaming of 2 things: EAP615-Wall like 3-band 2x2 w/ 2.5GbE. and its big brother w/ 10GbE, 3-band 4/6/8x ...
<ashkan> I hope tp-link can get back to the game again. I haven't been hyped about any of their products since wr1043nd and c7
<stintel> not that I need it, but that's what I think makes sense, and I can't recommend anything to clients if 1/ I don't approve and 2/ I couldn't test
<stintel> I iperf on my phone at ~800Mbps, and with 1000/600 uplink, that's plenty
<stintel> but EAP615-Wall is an epic format
<stintel> I want the next iteration of this product
<stintel> and what you just shared looks like it might be that, or related
<ashkan> stintel: there aren't many 2.5GbE switches on the shelves yet though. specially with POE. dlink is still making money off of their Fast ethernet switches
<stintel> ashkan: I have a 24port 1/2.5/5/10 GbE switch since covid
<stintel> (PoE++)
<ashkan> I mean you just said you don't care about the price tag :P
<stintel> I think it was dual 1150W PSU
<ashkan> stintel: What brand/model
<stintel> so I could feed each of those 24 ports with 60W if I wanted to
<stintel> S6720-32C-PWH-SI
<stintel> Huawei
<stintel> I can only parse the images unfortunately
<stintel> but looks good
<slh> D-Link DAP-X1860 (mt7621a+mt7915DBDC currently on sale for 15 EUR; repeater form factor) is tempting me (yet again)...
<stintel> sounds similar to EAP615Wall
<stintel> which I paid >=EUR80
<slh> wall-wart design, but seems to be nice for that price - https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c31f6b521bb5fc49e222a8f2bcd454b73452a0e
<slh> have it in mind for the garage, extending the signal (further-) into the garden
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<djfe_> ashkan: what about the tp-link ax23 blocktrron just added (sure it's just mt7621 with mt7915/mt7905, still)
<djfe_> the ax53 could also be added, it's also Mediatek based
<djfe_> in general their Omada seems to run pretty good from I heard, but apart from the eap225 there is no support with openwrt, yet
<djfe_> (together with wifi controllers and stuff for larger installations)
<djfe_> let me rephrase: runs pretty well for larger installations, where you also deploy wifi controllers and stuff (but it's all without openwrt then)
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<djfe_> oh wait the eap615 is supported, I totally missed that, thx for adding it stintel. I might actually get one at some point. 🤔
<djfe_> looks very promising tbh
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<stintel> djfe_: my wifi experience really leveled up after ditching all the self-crapping QCA crap with the EAP615-Wall
<stintel> I've two of them. if I had more than 1 UTP between rooms in this building I'd add 1 more
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<stintel> now seriously looking to buy a house, I'm already dreaming of the setup there :P
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<djfe_> even noticeably better than ipq40xx? How well would you consider the support for that plattform?
<djfe_> good luck in finding the right home :)
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<djfe> are these actually all ipq401x bdf files or are there more? https://git.openwrt.org/?p=project/firmware/qca-wireless.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/main;hb=refs/heads/main
<djfe> Or do most devices come with these in their calibration partition and that's why I can't find "EnGenius-EAP1300" in there?
<djfe> I'm looking at https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/12209 (trying to find mistakes and/or learn something while looking at it)
<aiyion_> djfe: it has been upstreamed and therefore been dropped in https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/8f757d427cce1e675df12fcde24ce78d5cd4651e
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<djfe> ah that's the upstream that I was looking for. I just didn't know it's name. thx
<djfe> so EnGenius-EAP1300EXT is missing/doesn't exist, right?
<djfe> how can I get rid of the development/snapshot warnings in the wiki? https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/gl.inet/gl.inet_gl-mt1300 the device has had support for more than one release
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<djfe> There are further tech data pages like this https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/avm/avm_fritz_box_7520
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<djfe> When you edit techdata, and the wiki errors "There was an unexpected problem communicating with SMTP: Could not open SMTP Port."
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<djfe> Should I report this via mail or is this expected?
<djfe> (The edit I did was saved successfully)
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