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<Mangix> anyone know why there's an upstream ath79 USB PHY driver and a downstream one?
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<owrt-images-builds> Build [#308](https://buildbot.openwrt.org/images/#/builders/231/builds/308) of `master_mpc85xx/p1010` failed.
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<mrkiko> I guess someonealready experienced mac80211 main.c:270 kernel warnings related to ieee80211_do_open ?
<mrkiko> seeing them with ath10k on ipq806x/R7800
<slh> mrkiko: ath10k or ath10k (ath10k might be easier here)
<mrkiko> slh: sorry, don't understand your question
<mrkiko> ath10k_pci
<slh> mrkiko: ipq806x/R7800 means qca9984, there are two concurrent drivers for that in OpenWrt, OpenWrt defaults to ath10k-ct, but mainline we have ath10k
<slh> check the kmod- and firmware name, the kernel module will be called the same either way
<slh> as ath10k is mainline and therefore part of the same mac80211 backports package, I would expect it to be more likely to be fine in this regard. with ath10k-ct being an out-of-tree package, it's easier that things are missed during the forward porting
<mrkiko> I am running the -ct variant
<slh> o.k., in that case I would have a look at ath10k first
<slh> ath10k-ct is kernel v6.7 based. while mac80211 and ath10k come both (together) from v6.9.9
<mrkiko> slh: got your point, I didn't switch because I tought -ct was still the recommended version
<mrkiko> will do it
<slh> mrkiko: it's OpenWrt's default, that would probably make it the recommended version - and because of that, it needs fixing. but it would be interesting to check if you see the same with kmod-ath10k - because then we're missing some adaption to fix the v6.7 based ath10k-ct for v6.9.9 compatibility
<slh> backports + out-of-tree wlan modules doesn't make it easy
<mrkiko> slh: ehe I imagine. That said, I am under the impression there is progressively more people thinking we should switch back to ath10k mainly due to maintenance
<mrkiko> slh: but since I never had any issues so far, I did not take initiative on my side
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<slh> it would make life easier, in the sense that it's part of the normal mac80211 backports package like anything else
<slh> but mt76 is kind of in the same boat, as being provided as an out-of-tree package as well, rather than being taken from the backports package
<slh> only difference being, is that mt76 is seeing very active development and its source is newer than the backports package we have - while ath10k-ct isn't as active as it has been in the past and based on an older kernel version
<slh> (backports itself make things rather complex by itself already)
<mrkiko> slh: infact there is a big "pending" branch upon us in mt76
<slh> yep
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<mrkiko> slh: apafrom from the "Unknown event: 36933" from ath10k_pci, all seems running fine, no kernel warnings so far
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<slh> so it would be interesting to compare v6.7..v6.9.9 ath10k to see what might be missing from ath10k-ct
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<nbd> mrkiko: the pending branch is mostly for my active wifi7 related development - not relevant to most mt76 users yet
<nbd> will likely be at least a few weeks before those changes are ready to be pushed to master
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<mrkiko> nbd: thanks for the info!!
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<slh> mrkiko: when it comes to ath10k, you have to distinguish between wave1 (e.g. qca9880) and wave2 (e.g. qca9984) chipsets, QCA quickly stopped caring about wave1 when wave2 came around. the push for ath10k-ct came mostly from wave1 users (archer c7, among others); wave2 didn't have many of the teething problems seen with wave1
<mrkiko> slh: ipq4019 is wave2?
<slh> yes
<mrkiko> got it
<slh> ipq40xx was released after ipq806x, it's always wave2 - actually I'm not even sure if there are any ipq806x devices with wave1 WLAN (even ipq8064 came with QCA9980, short lived/ quickly replaced and neglected, but still already wave2)
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<slh> wave1 was king on ath79 (archer c7) and things like the bthub5a
<mrkiko> I never looked at those things closer since I never had issues with ath10k-based devices as far as I do remember.
<slh> neither did I, on my devices (wave2)
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<schmars[m]> i have a bunch of different ipq4019 devices running, let me know if i should look anything up
<slh> I think interoperability with certain Apple devices was most of the issue, don't really know
<slh> issues in the sense of the ath10k firmware crashing
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<mrkiko> slh: some Apple devices here, no issues so far
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<mrkiko> slh: seeGithub issue 15959
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