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01:03 <luyn> whot: got it thank you very much

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05:32 <wlb> wayland-protocols Issue #82 opened by () xdg_popup.grab has duplicated and contradictory parent requirements https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/82

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07:51 <davidre> hmmhm

07:51 <davidre> \o/

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07:54 <davidre> whot: Good monrning (for me at least), wanted to have quick chat about libei

07:55 <davidre> Do you think there could be a tag or pre-release kind of thing or is it to early for that?

07:57 <davidre> I am asking because at work we would have use case to bridge between a closed source software sending Xtest events and the compositor

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08:06 <whot> davidre: too early, IMO. doubly-so if you want to use it because then changing the API is going to get much harder :)

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08:07 <davidre> I think we could also keep on using a random commit but of course would be nicer if there was a 0.1 or whatever

08:07 <whot> davidre: i want the capturing side sorted before we call it a stable-enough interface but that's only just gone out as RFCs

08:07 <davidre> I understand

08:07 <whot> i *think* it will work but as usual we won't know the details until we actually implement it

08:07 <davidre> That would mean the protocol would need to stay fixed

08:08 <whot> well, that's one reason I'm doing it as a library - it's easier to keep the C api stable and change the protocol

08:08 <whot> long-term I don't think I'll go with protobuf as transport layer, so all that needs to change

08:08 <davidre> But then you need matching eis and ei versions between server and client :)

08:09 <whot> all the hooks are there, but everything is code that needs to be written by someone... :)

08:09 <whot> yes

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08:10 <davidre> It's no big trouble just then have to decide which hash we gonna end up with when we do the eventual change to Wayland :D

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08:11 <davidre> FYI this a KWin branch with eis https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/commits/work/davidre/eistest

08:12 <davidre> One thing that was not clear to me was how to map the difference of EIS_EVENT_POINTER_SCROLL_STOP and EIS_EVENT_POINTER_SCROLL_CANCEL to the wayland terms

08:13 <davidre> It's a bit barebones, for example I do no keymap handling at all but seems to work quite well

08:13 <whot> this there's no cancel in wayland, so you'd have to map it to stop

08:14 <whot> the eis-demo-server actually has keymap handling, enough to show how it's done

08:15 <whot> so on a quick glance that code looks good (but my C++ sucks) but I'm confused by the need to expot LIBEI_SOCKET

08:15 <davidre> Yeah that's how I did it stop and cancel the same for now

08:15 <davidre> Was just lazyness for the prototype to have no keymap handling :D

08:17 <davidre> The socket I think I had named different in the past and then renamed it?

08:17 <whot> no, I mean isnt' there an API where you pass the name in instead of rounabout through the env var?

08:17 <davidre> Or it was because I had the demo things also running as testing, I remember I called it kwin-eis-%d before :D

08:18 <whot> oh, no, wait, that's the env for the clients in the session, nevermind

08:18 <davidre> exactly :)

08:20 <davidre> Another thing that was not clear to me was if a region of the device is in logical coordinates do I need to eis_region_set_physical_scale or not?

08:20 <davidre> I think the documentation was quite confusing to me there

08:22 <whot> heh, that was the simplified documentation too... so - yes, you do

08:22 <whot> it's the weird 4k xwayland use-case where the screens are the same physical size but not the same logical size

08:23 <whot> and they actually expand into a big+little screen

08:23 <davidre> Ok then I was right by accident :D

08:23 <whot> hehe

08:24 <whot> so, iirc, this is *only* the case where you want the screens like this: Oo - when physically they're actually OO but the left one is 4k and the right one is !4k

08:24 <davidre> It's something we could then hit

08:25 <davidre> Our device has a rather small screen but you can plug another in

08:25 <davidre> All in all I have to say using the library is straightforward nice work :)

08:26 <whot> \o/ :)

08:26 <whot> it's a bit wordy but, well, that's C for you

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08:27 <whot> ftr, the capture use-case will be exactly the same setup except it's you sending the events then

08:27 <whot> and the devices you'd set up don't represent the screens but rather the devices you want to forward

08:28 <davidre> I don't mind a bit of C

08:28 <davidre> just not not much haha

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08:30 <i509VCB> Please ignore me while I see if the bridge setup is working...

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08:34 <jadahl> whot: the wire format likely needs stability too, so that the system component can talk to a flatpak component that doesn't use the samev ersion

08:39 <emersion> davidre: what's your use-case?

08:39 <emersion> can't you write a regular kernel driver?>

08:41 <emersion> tbh i think even a userspace-created evdev node would be better, if it's for a driver

08:41 <whot> jadahl: yes, that's the plan, once we have the various bits in place and stable enough

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08:48 <jadahl> whot: sounds good

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08:53 <davidre> Oh that was me :)

08:54 <davidre> That works on X of course, but when we want to switch to a wayland session that's of course not going to work

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10:34 <wlb> weston Issue #590 opened by () RDP holds buffers too long https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/590

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12:44 <ebassi> Who is responsible for the windows/docker CI runners? They have been timing out for a while

12:45 <pq> I didn't think we had any wayland/weston CI on Windows...?

12:48 <ebassi> We do for Cairo

12:49 <ebassi> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo/-/blob/master/.gitlab-ci.yml#L228-231 — these are the tags in use

12:49 <ebassi> Oh, sorry

12:49 <ebassi> I thought I was in #freedesktop

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12:50 <pq> heh

12:52 <ebassi> Haven't used IRC in a while, and I already started paging it out from memory…

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22:48 <wlb> wayland-protocols/main: Simon Ser (emersion) * 5 commits https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/compare/7e2d9e381e32c99a1d9f054ab460398c9141f8e5...1293ff146ee851ca3f513509f216d9f3adc89916

22:48 <wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !36 merged \o/ (Annotate destructor events https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/36)

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