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<captainchris>
Hi everybody. I have a problem using dwl under alpine . I build wayland-1.20 with wayland-protocols-1.25 wlroots-0.16. I built dwl-0.2.2, the building if fine, I can run it but when I launch application it says err:wayland.c:1225:no sub compositor
<kennylevinsen>
captainchris: 0.16 is wlroots master. your version of dwl is too old for that.
<captainchris>
kennylevinsen: with version 0.14.1 provided on alpine linux I have the same problem
<captainchris>
I try to build 0.16 to saw if the problem persists
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<bl4ckb0ne>
captainchris: alpine 3.15 or edge? iirc wlroots 0.15.1 is only in edge
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<captainchris>
bl4ckb0ne: alpine 3.15
<captainchris>
I will try to modify dwl to adapt with wlroot-0.16
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<fmil>
hi folks! I'm curious to learn a bit about the current state and the direction of keyboard input support in Wayland. Can I ask here, or should I turn to the mailing list, or something els
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<emersion>
yea feel free to ask here
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<fmil>
I noticed that Wayland delegates the implementation of key mapping to clients. How does wayland then ensure consistent handling of keymaps and autorepeat across toolkits / apps?
<fmil>
it seems that delegating this responsibility would lead to inconsistent handling in different toolkits.
<fmil>
What am I missing
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<fmil>
And, what is the reason wayland would not handle keymapping for all clients?
<fmil>
input events seem to be thin shims over evdev, transacting in scancodes.
<fmil>
and there is an API to pass the keymap to the client to let the client figure it out.
<fmil>
which leads me to wonder how desktop environments like KDE would use centralized keymap settings
<fmil>
Sorry for asking trivial questions, I'm trying to learn as much as I can about what the current thinking here is.
<Sachiel>
oh, huh, I remember less than I thought
<Sachiel>
centralized keymaps, unless I misunderstand the question, seem to be answered in that very same link. The compositor is configured with them and it will send the keymap to each client whenever it changes, no? At least on sway I don't seem to have to configure that in more than just sway's own settings
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<Sachiel>
key repeat I assume it's done that way to avoid the old x11 problem of figuring out where the events you are getting are actual events or just the repeat events
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<fmil>
so yes, the compositor will send keymaps indeed.
<fmil>
but - it's up to each client to know what to do with it
<fmil>
it being the sequence of keymaps.
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<fmil>
If y'all are confused on where I'm coming from, here's a bit of background.
<fmil>
so I'm working on a new OS, called Fuchsia
<fmil>
specifically on keyboard support.
<fmil>
and am wondering how I could reuse Fuchsia's existing keyboard support in wayland apps.
<fmil>
keymap processing is exactly on the "wrong" side of the wayland API for my purpose, and I was wondering how to reconcile the approaches
<fmil>
Fuchsia has no notion of keymap files - at least not yet anyways, nor would they necessarily be xkb compatible even if they existed.
<fmil>
so one basic question would be whether there even is a place in Wayland for delivering already keymapped key event
<fmil>
and if the answer is yes, then how would one go about making it happen.
<fmil>
Advice appreciated, and/or pointers to people who'd know more.
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<daniels>
fmil: the short answer is that if you want to make shortcuts or hotkeys work, you fundamentally need keycode + modifiers + map