robclark changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
<Dantheman825[m]>
<juergh1> "Dantheman825: Make sure to..." <- how would I go about doing this?
<jbowen>
I was pretty excited about doing the work to get Fedora running comfortably on the x13s, but I'm traveling later this week and I'm just looking for the most straightforward option to install alongside the Windows partition
<jbowen>
Is that Ubuntu? Or Armbian?
<steev>
i would say ubuntu or debian
<steev>
i have no experience with the armbian install
<Dantheman825[m]>
Ubuntu was pretty painless after a UEFI update
<Dantheman825[m]>
Debian should also be fairly easy I believe
<jbowen>
Thank you for the link, Dantheman825[m]
<jbowen>
I'd gone looking for it a couple of days ago but could only really find the Ubuntu Concept - x13s page
<Dantheman825[m]>
yeah, it was a bit of a hassle to find the image for the X13s
<Dantheman825[m]>
wasn't made aware of it until like a week of torturing myself trying to install it the hard way
* jbowen
crosses fingers
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<enyalios>
what does the linux bios option actually do? it doesnt really say
<bamse>
enyalios: it makes the bios attempt to load a dtb from the esp, and it installs a RuntimeProperties table telling the OS that no UEFI RuntimeServices are available
<zdykstra>
what are RuntimeServices in this context?
<zdykstra>
I was expecting to not like the x13s keyoard coming from an X260 (and x200s, heh), but I've grown to like it.
<enyalios>
bamse: is the dtb part necessary if you have grub configure to load a devicetree?
<enyalios>
zdykstra: i still really miss my x220 keyboard, that was the best laptop keyboard of all time
<bamse>
zdykstra: runtime services provides an api to the OS to call back into the UEFI implementation for doing things such as accessing efi variables, accessing rtc time etc
<bamse>
enyalios: no, and if you invoke the "devicetree" command in e.g. grub, it will overwrite the dtb loaded earlier
<enyalios>
cool thanks
<zdykstra>
hmm
<zdykstra>
so if no UEFI RuntimeServices are available, is efibootmgr still able to manipulate boot entries?
<zdykstra>
enyalios: I've never used an x220, but they seem pretty loved. How does it differ from an x200-gen keyboard?
<enyalios>
zdykstra: its not the chicklet style keyboard, its more like regular full sized one and its 8 rows instead of 7
<steev>
i'm in the minority (apparently) that doesn't like that one :(
<enyalios>
lots of key travel, more normal home/end/pgup/pgdown arrangement, and browser forward and back buttons by the arrow keys
<enyalios>
steev: heresy!
<steev>
at least it's not a chromebook keyboard though!
<enyalios>
steev: what dont you like about it?
<steev>
the plastic-y feel of the keys? it's hard to say exactly
<zdykstra>
Oh. That's very much like the x200s, then
<zdykstra>
More keys, but they're otherwise the same style
<zdykstra>
https://i.imgur.com/LR0JPdq.jpg I thought that was a fun comparison to see just how far "ultra portables" have come in 15 years
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<enyalios>
zdykstra: yeah the x220 and x200s look to have pretty identical kbs
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<zdykstra>
New keyboard, drive + cover, batteries, trackpoint nubs. That thing had held up pretty well for 15 years. It even boots with 8gb of ram. HaikuOS runs like a charm on it :)
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<steev>
clover[m]: pushed out lenovo-x13s-v6.7-rc5; it has johan's rc5 and then in addition to the other stuff that has been it has bryan's webcam stuff. i added the webcam needed stuff to the laptop defconfig but the johan defconfig also has them
<steev>
i need to go back over the laptop defconfig soon
<steev>
for reals
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<juergh>
Dantheman825[m], What I'm trying to say is that if you want to build and run your own kernel with Ubuntu userspace you need to have CONFIG_FW_LOADER_COMPRESS_ZSTD enabled.
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<Dantheman825[m]>
<juergh> "Dantheman825, What I'm trying to..." <- Alright, I’ll be sure to recompile sometime soon
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<enyalios>
zdykstra: my x220 was my primary machine for 12 years, i think i replaced everything but a few screws, the ram cover, 1 stick of ram, the drive, and the drive cover
<enyalios>
the repairability of those old thinkpads is incredible
<Jasper[m]>
I wish they were half as easy to open up as the X13s
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<steev>
woo, pi5 8gb will be here next week
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<Jasper[m]>
<steev> "woo, pi5 8gb will be here next..." <- Do you need anything tested in the meantime? Got one a couple of weeks ago
<steev>
Jasper[m]: at the moment no, i'm still trying to figure out the best way to do the same low power notification that the pi foundation does
* travmurav[m]
always thought that thing is baked in the videocore firmware
<clover[m]>
interesting. i wonder if thats why youtube sucks so bad on firefox on the x13s
<steev>
looks like
<Jasper[m]>
Likely
<Jasper[m]>
venus is not going to help much without being able to up the quality hahaha
<clover[m]>
haha
<clover[m]>
im gonna make a similar workaround package for arch
<robclark>
Jasper[m]: so js exposes some information about whether various codecs/resolutions are powerefficient or not.. which probably maps to "am I using hw decode" in firefox. I guess that is what youtube is using