ChanServ changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
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<steev> microsoft finally put up a windows 11 download
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<DanaG> I should check if installing from that ISO under Hyper-V results in the Windows Store being missing. The last time I tried that, it was missing. "You'll need a new app to open this msstore:// URL" -- "look on the store" -- "You'll need a new app to open this msstore:// URL"
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<bamse> steev: i'm told that this commit contains the firmware we need for x13s, and that there should be a patch to the driver posted later today (perhaps that's tomorrow due to time zones though)
<steev> bamse: oh interesting, jens already submitted one a few weeks back but we never got any feedback on it (that i'm aware of)
<JensGlathe[m]> its not only X13s, also Volterra and HP X14 would be covered
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<JensGlathe[m]> The WCN7850 variant of the genereate_nvm_fwname function could be used directly as it seems, would be my V2 of this
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<bamse> why is it "new, archived"?
<bamse> is there a later version? or one coming up?
<JensGlathe[m]> no idea why it is archived. After posting a link here there was a short discussion re WCN7850 function, but I did not take any further action. If the announced patch does what is needed, good
<JensGlathe[m]> otherwise I would do a v2
<JensGlathe[m]> but no longer RFC as this has been settled apparently
<steev> same
<bamse> JensGlathe[m]: i'll point our engineer to your patch and ask him to review it
<steev> i've been using this (and my version that jens was based on) for forever so it'll be nice to be fixed up to use the b8c firmware
<steev> and who knows, maybe they'll know why we don't get the correct one in the first place
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<bamse> i shared the link with the bt guy and asked him to take a peek at it
<bamse> hoping they will give it a review
<bamse> and now we just need to figure out how to scoop out the mac addresses...
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<JensGlathe[m]> Jasper and @travmurav found them in some factory settings area, discussed how to get them via dtbloader
<JensGlathe[m]> DPP
<JensGlathe[m]> On the X14 the MAC addresses are there with the normal driver calls
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<travmurav[m]> I have a branch in the dtbloader with a preliminary dpp parser
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<deathmist> I assume the super short actually stable BT range on X1E OmniBook as I tested with my headphones comes down to firmware/missing driver patches potentially discussed above as well? I rebooted to check in windows and it's working as expected
<macc24> probably firmware
<macc24> i can walk around my flat with bluetooth headphones with no interruptions
<macc24> on slim7x
<JensGlathe[m]> Yes thats true
<macc24> have you tried using firmware files copied from windows?
<JensGlathe[m]> Patch has been posted to lore, will test later
<macc24> hmtbtfw20.tlv and hmtnv20.b112 to be exact
<JensGlathe[m]> On x14 it is .b101 iirc
<macc24> is it x1e laptop?
<JensGlathe[m]> Yes
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<steev> JensGlathe[m]: works here, and my bluetooth speaker works into my bedroom, and only somewhat spotty but that's mostly the lead paint on the walls
<deathmist> I can barely get 1 meter away from the laptop and audio starts breaking with nothing in between the laptop and BT headphones
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<tobhe_> I'll add the new fw to our concept package and wait for a patch or feedback on the existing patch on the ml
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<steev> My test was with an h2go speaker, didn’t test the AirPods because they love to stick to the thinkpad once I pair them, so even if I try to go back to my phone with them, a few seconds later they reconnect
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<\[m]> hot
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<SpieringsAE> does anyone have funky graphical artifacts on linux? Some applications are definetly worse than others but yeah
<JensGlathe[m]> Not much
<SpieringsAE> webcord for example has quite severy glitching, simple applications only mild. I tested just now with screen sharing, but that looks perfect
<SpieringsAE> I should probably try a different graphical environment, maybe it is actually hyprland being wacky
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<SpieringsAE> well yeah it seems to be hyprland, curious, everything is looking fine on kde
<\[m]> > First Access - Get 50% off the next-generation mass-production mainboard, available in 2025.
<\[m]> another risc v board right
<SpieringsAE> yep
<\[m]> meh I'm just going to buy it to support and how tf they have working ubuntu and fedora
<farchord> \: yeah I saw that... But when I saw that it's slower than a raspi.... ergh
<SpieringsAE> jeah I really wish they would have at least gone with that 8 core spacemit soc
<SpieringsAE> they already have a system with it, so it's not like they don't know about/how to work with it
<farchord> Btw, how's it going with X1E mainstream support? Is X-mas still being targeted?
<SpieringsAE> oof there is still a lot to be done
<SpieringsAE> doubt that, like there is the ubuntu concept which is probably the best option for just flash it and pop it in
<farchord> yeah I saw that one
<SpieringsAE> audio is iffy, camera absolutely not, usb-c display and such is iffy
<farchord> I know that alot of things are still not working though, like sound for example
<SpieringsAE> usb-a is not there, hdmi on my system for example, but it is very workable if you don't need those
<farchord> yeah, sound and camera for me are necessities. USB-c display? Meh. Don'T really care.
<farchord> USB-a, if USB-C works, is workable. Dongles ftw, do it the Apple way.
<SpieringsAE> I feel like camera especially is going to be a bit, but idk, I've had bad experiences trying to get camera working at my work
<SpieringsAE> but then again I barely know what I am doing, maybe its not actually that bad
<robclark> IIRC some people have sound working .. not sure anyone has camera yet.. anything where you could use USB things (usb-camera, etc) should $just_work
<robclark> so USB peripherals might be a workable short term workaround
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<steev> i do see an occasional graphical glitch with gnome and x11
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<robclark> hmm, I've not seen issues (gnome-shell + Xwayland.. with f41 mesa (24.2.6).. any particular app?
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<SpieringsAE> it is especially rough in webcord for me, but its everywhere, every window
<SpieringsAE> seems like old buffers coming back for a split second, one frame of the previously open application popping back up
<SpieringsAE> stuff like that
<SpieringsAE> i type a letter in the terminal, it dissapears again for a second and then reappears
<SpieringsAE> well, not a second like a frame more
<SpieringsAE> but yeah, in kde 6 (wayland) everything is fine
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<SpieringsAE> is there someone willing to test Hyprland to see if they get the same?
<SpieringsAE> kinda would like to verify its not just my asus being funky before I make a bug reports
<robclark> probably isn't going to be specific to the laptop.. but it could be either hyprland relying on some undefined behavior or a driver bug.. hard to say which. Is hyprland using gl or vk? Also, what mesa version (it never hurts to see if issue still happens w/ ToT mesa)
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<steev> robclark: i wanna say... alacritty, moving it around... but i'm trying now on both X11 and Wayland and not seeing it....
<robclark> there were a few bugs fixed early on, but at this point I'd expect the driver to be pretty ok..
<steev> it didn't bother me enough to say anything :)
<robclark> unreported bugs tend not to get fixed :-)
<JensGlathe[m]> well. you need to prioritize
<steev> i mean... half the time i've got experimental/bleeding edge software going
<steev> if i only ever see it happen with one terminal, i tend to assume it's not mesa but the terminal
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<SpieringsAE> I cant seem to find whether it is gl or vk, it does have a vk dependency but it runs without vulkan-freedreno, for mesa, its arch, so the latest release
<SpieringsAE> 24.2.6 it seems
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<SpieringsAE> though, the archlinuxarm package servers are having some sleepy time again, so I haven't gotten any updates since the 7th
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<SpieringsAE> I don't know why that happens, the packages are still being updated, it's just not being pushed to the mirrors some times, some infrastructure issue I guess
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<SpieringsAE> okay I did just confirm from the logs that hyprland is gl not vk
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<deathmist> JensGlathe[m]: you mentioned a seeming thermal shutdown with the OmniBook before while compiling kernel, well I seem to have hit the same just now, my ssh timed out after "LD vmlinux.o" with the machine being powered off when I got back, battery at 93% so it also seems to draw more than charger can provide while plugged in?
<JensGlathe[m]> entirely possible
<JensGlathe[m]> I've had them at the weekend, not since then
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<JensGlathe[m]> I did a 6.12 Ubuntu build, took 20 mins, no thermal issue. Still on probation ofc
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<farchord> Okay this is incredibly impressive. My Asus vivobook booted into Fedora on a custom kernel, no problem.
<farchord> wifi works OOTB, on llvm, but I'm checking to see if I can't fix that by adding some firmwarez
<farchord> Battery management is still not functional though, I wonder how to fix that
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<robclark> gpu needs qcdxkmsuc8380.mbn.. battery status/management needs adsp fw
<robclark> looks like fw path is /lib/firmware/qcom/x1e80100/ASUSTeK/vivobook-s15 .. and you might need a patch to enable gpu on the asus (IIRC someone posted it a day or two back)
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