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<chadmed_> chaos_princess: you were right btw googlesource is generating random tarballs...
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<chadmed> oh yeah you already said that ^
<chadmed> runxiyu: there is no "power management" on this platform its all automatic
<chadmed> theres no acpi at all either
<chadmed> WYSIWYG at this point. it will improve Soon(tm)
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<runxiyu> so... I can't control cpu frequency scaling or anything at all? alright
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<chadmed> you can change the cpufreq governor but because the system is heterogeneous it just screws with task scheduling and placement
<chadmed> so its not "supported" and we wont help you with issues
<chadmed> and 99% of the time youll just end up with worse battery life
<mps> chadmed: really? what then should be default governor?
<chadmed> schedutil... hasnt changed in like 3 years....
<mps> hm, I'm using conservative in hope to prolong battery
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<mps> will change to schedutil to see if there are differences
<runxiyu> ah, okay
<mps> (I had 'bad' experiences with schedutil on some other arm machines)
<chadmed> its fine now with more software knowing how to tell the scheduler about what it wants
<mps> though schedutil should be lot better with kernel 6.12
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<runxiyu> are there any example kernel configs that are tailored to applie silicon devices? or do i have to go discover the configs from scratch
<chadmed> its very slimline so some things you expect to work may not actually wokr
<chadmed> oh im an idiot, the url is https://chadmed.au/res/gentoo-config
<runxiyu> thanks
<mps> isn't there asahi_defconfig in tree
<mps> hm, no
<runxiyu> i've never used portage extensively and i hacked together a custom kernel without knowing whether i did it right, back on x86
<runxiyu> can i just go into /usr/src/linux, back up a config, and make && make modules_install && make install?
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<chadmed> basically yeah, but youll also need to build the initramfs using dracut and update grub too
<chaos_princess> emerge installkernel with the correct use flags, and it will do it automatically as a part of make install
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<mixi> chadmed, chaos_princess: as i see you working on packaging sommelier: you might also want to include https://shadowice.org/~mixi/asahi/2024-08-28/sommelier-20230810-enforce-16k-alignment.patch - the copr tarball for slp's sommelier already comes with that one applied, and afair it won't work between the 16k-pages-host and 4k-pages-guest without it
<chaos_princess> how do i replicate the problem that that patch fixes, i've run a few random apps inside the 4k vm and they seem to be working fine?
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<chadmed> chaos_princess: did steam work for you?
<chadmed> i installed the amd64 mesa (all the rpms from the latest f40 build) into the fex rootfs but it was no bueno
<chaos_princess> i have steam working, yes
<chadmed> hm okay skill issue then
<chaos_princess> how are you launching it?
<chadmed> krun FEXBash steam
<chaos_princess> echo $(which steam)
<chadmed> . /usr/bin/steam
<chadmed> does it need to go in the fex rootfs?
<chaos_princess> you need this specific command: FEXInterpreter /usr/bin/steam -cef-force-occlusion -cef-force-opaque-backgrounds
<chaos_princess> (inside the krun ofc)
<chadmed> oh lmfao ofc its cef nonsense
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<mixi> chaos_princess: afair it was just not starting sommelier, which I could trace to a misaligned mmap on the host, and something within mesa on the guest
<mixi> so if it works for you it's probably not needed (anymore? on your specific setup?)
<mixi> but since finding the fix was just the result of me finally figuring out the difference between the (working) fedora version and mine, I have no deeper understanding to explain why or under which circumstances it was necessary
<chaos_princess> I've thrown it in, since it shouldnt hurt, but idk if it does something.
<chaos_princess> Though i am very annoyed at how that whole setup is developed, having just random copr patches contain critical functionality is not how things are done
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<chadmed> yeah a lot of my ire over the past few days has been mostly related to that
<chadmed> this whole thing really shits me with how janky and flaky it is. not really up to our usual standards imo
<chaos_princess> i also really want to kill sommelier specifically and replace it
<chadmed> unfortunately the alternative is spending years re-architecting the linux memory management code to support multiple page sizes in userspace like xnu
<chaos_princess> not krun, sommelier
<chadmed> and yea theres got to be something better to use than sommelier here
<chadmed> gamescope or weston or something
<chaos_princess> or a certain crazy thing that i'm writing :P
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