<bluetail>
Uhm guys. I deleted the UI but now my external USB storage is no longer detected. It could be related to my action of removing kwin-x11, kwindowsystem, xorg-server, plasma-meta
<bluetail>
df-h doesnt report the disk anymore afterwards
<Glanzmann>
doootard[m]: Please note that you also need an updated u-boot, which you can install for that. I'll add a section to the website: curl -sLO /boot/efi/m1n1/boot.bin https://tg.st/u/u-boot.bin
<Glanzmann>
doootard[m]: I add instructions to the website. Let me know how it went.
<Dementor[m]>
Did anyone try to run PowerShell on asahi linux? Does it suffer from the 16k pages issues?
<bluetail>
Even if, you can always run a docker with powershell
<bluetail>
docker runs fine
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<Dementor[m]>
I switch to default shell on all my systems to pwsh so I rather have it run natively
<Dementor[m]>
I was wondering if anyone gave it a spin
<dottedmag>
bluetail: what does Docker do to make it work?
<bluetail>
PS as default? Wtf
<bluetail>
dottedmag, 'it' ?
<dottedmag>
bluetail: if a binary does not run outside Docker container, what does Docker do to make it work inside Docker container?
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<marcan>
nothing
<marcan>
it won't work
<marcan>
not with containers anyway
<marcan>
with a VM running a 4K kernel it would
<dottedmag>
Right, I expected as much
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<mps>
bluetail: PWSH - most of the newcomers are folks who used and liked windows up to version N, then they decided they hated something new in windows version N+1
<mps>
so they're frustrated that everything isn't like version N and set out to recreate version N on linux
<mps>
this is quoting of Rich Felker = musl author, that is how he explained to me
<bluetail>
marcan, I was under the impression that a docker running debian for instance automatically runs with 4k instead of 16k and it's kind of an compatibility layer. I used to believe its like a VM.
<ChaosPrincess>
docker is using a vm on macos, on linux it is using the running kernel
<bluetail>
Ah I see
<bluetail>
Thats also why docker runs so much faster on linux... right?
<ChaosPrincess>
yea, probably
<mps>
docker on linux runs on native speed, practically. also LXC
<mps>
native = host
<bluetail>
Chaos Princess... What a cool name. Wouldn't a princess have people working for her? Asking them to create chaos? Or is it a different kind of chaos? Oh how I like the idea of it...
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<Dementor[m]>
<mps> "bluetail: PWSH - most of the..." <- I find pwsh to be a superior shell that's all.
<Dementor[m]>
I'm not new to Linux I've been using it for 15 years or so
<j`ey>
Dementor[m]: do you have an m1? just try it!
<Dementor[m]>
j`ey: I don't I'm planning on getting one which is why I asked
<mps>
Dementor[m]: it is not intended for you personally (sorry) but answer to bluetail[m] question/wonder
<j`ey>
I wouldnt expect a shell to hardcode the page size.. but who knows!
* mps
is tcsh user for nearly 30 years
<Dementor[m]>
j`ey: It's using dot net framework and I really hope they don't but who knows
<mps>
I saw few days ago that someone created PWSH merge request for alpine, when it is merged I will check does it works
<Dementor[m]>
mps: I think it has an alpine binary already let me check
<mps>
hmm, what is pkgname
<Dementor[m]>
Never mind the alpine one is only x64
<Dementor[m]>
You can use the linux binary that doesn't require installation
<Dementor[m]>
powershell-7.2.5-linux-arm64.tar.gz
<mps>
ah, that explains why apk search doesn't work for me
<Willmish[m]>
Hi everyone! Am new here, recently installed asahi on my sillicone mac, would like to eventually start contributing, but will probably be mostly lurking for now :D
<Willmish[m]>
bluetail: Thanks, aiming more to contribute as a developer, but will consider donating if I get more involved in the project later on
<mps>
ping_47: it works on alpine linux with asahi kernel
<ping_47>
mps: How is being the experience of using alpine in desktop there?
<mps>
very nice, I'm using it from november as daily driver
<ping_47>
bluetail[m]: I will take the "Active Advocate" one. Because is that what I'm planning to be =x
<mps>
ping_47: though I didn't tried kde or gnome but think they also works fine
<ping_47>
mps: I will stick with Arch for now. But got curious about trying alpine in desktop.
<bluetail[m]>
Willmish: the gist is that its pretty low level and many things did involve a ton of knowledge on the IC's on the devices themselves. When I looked into it, I felt a bit beat :D
<ping_47>
mps: I see. If you try plasma let me know how it runs o/
<mps>
ping_47: if you saw postmarketOS it is alpine tweaked for different SoCs
<ping_47>
mps: I will a task here to test it in qemu later. Seems promising
<mps>
I'm lazy to install postmarketOS on m1 to see it, but I think it would work of the box
<bluetail[m]>
Does anybody know whats wrong with the usb c port support?
<bluetail[m]>
my usb ssd only works on the type a ones
<bluetail[m]>
not that its a problem
<bluetail[m]>
just curious
<bluetail[m]>
its sata and its usb
<bluetail[m]>
not tb or usb4
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<mps>
hm, works fine on m1 mbp from october for me
<mps>
but with some bad cables it could make problems
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<Willmish[m]>
bluetail: Yeah, I definitely see that it might be quite over my head haha, still willing to give it a shot in my free time :D, but likely will become a supporter as well
<Willmish[m]>
* free time (over the next x months) :D, but
<ping_47>
mps: I've started testing this week and my usb-c hub didn't worked with macmini m1. I will give a try for more logs/investigation later.
<ping_47>
which was the movement for usb-c in mpb m1?
<mps>
ping_47: ah, I don't have mini to check
<mps>
but a lot people use usb-c ssd on mbp and air
<ping_47>
this is interesting to know
<ping_47>
the usb-c get wich identification in your system?
<mps>
you mean 'lsusb' output
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<mps>
probably different configs for kernels gives this difference, kernel source is same
<ping_47>
make sense, later I will try to hack this a little more and provide any findings
<mps>
people reported here earlier that some usb ports doesn't work on mini, but I don't know details
<ping_47>
mps: here I have a dell monitor with 4K and a usb-c hub, and thunderbolt
<ping_47>
the hub didn't worked because of usb-c not working, thunderbolt I saw the documentation so I didn't expected to work, but later I plan to research more on this
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<mps>
ping_47: afaik video over usb can't work because it is not supported by simpledrm driver
<ping_47>
mps: video is working via hdmi very well so far, even with with the hardware acceleration limitations
<mps>
ping_47: hdmi over usb-c?
<ping_47>
actually the Mac OS driver was working very strangly with this monitor, I got a screen flickering that it was being a hell
<ping_47>
mps: no, just regular hdmi
<ping_47>
from macmini to the monitor
<mps>
ah, yes then
<ping_47>
and 0 screen flickering at asahi, so technically the driver is better than Mac OS one for my monitor =x
<ping_47>
Felt like the guy from clockwork orange
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<Dementor[m]>
mps: did pwsh run for you in the end or you didn't try l
<Dementor[m]>
?
<mps>
Dementor[m]: you mean did I tried PWSH?
<mps>
I don't like idea to run windows/microsoft programs on my machine
<mps>
especially binary ones
<mps>
and I doubt they compiled it for musl
<mps>
so I bet it will not work on my machine
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<mps>
I win bet `pwsh: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, ARM aarch64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-aarch64.so.1, for GNU/Linux 3.7.0, BuildID[sha1]=07f557d7ce612f5657b2a671e849e3351d927871, stripped`
<mps>
:)
<mps>
it is compiled with glibc
<Dementor[m]>
I see
<Dementor[m]>
Thanks
<mps>
np
<Dementor[m]>
So this is an alpine thing right? It might still work on arch?
<j`ey>
Dementor[m]: yeah
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<Dementor[m]>
OK thanks.
<Dementor[m]>
To the person that said about the renting an m1 can I run asahi on it?
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<j`ey>
Dementor[m]: probably not, you need physical prescence for the installer
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<jannau>
at least virtual physical pressence in some for of control of the power button
<j`ey>
but you probably dont have control like that from those vendors
<marcan>
I'm pretty sure Amazon have virtual power button controls, but I doubt they let you use it to get into 1TR
<ping_47>
Updates from my usb-c journey: I have tested with another device (a pendrive like usb-c), and it seems to work. So I bet there's something different happening with my monitor usb-c hub.
<ping_47>
ha! Got it working, if I disconnect everything, connect the hub alone and then plug device by device they all work...
<ping_47>
so, it's working /o/
<mps>
ping_47: nice you found 'solution'
<dottedmag>
still something is wonky though
<ping_47>
Also, from usb. I was in a google meets this morning and my usb webcam got randonly disconnected during the chat. Got it working with no issues after reconnecting the USB. I will save my kernel logs next meeting on the case it happens again.
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<qeeg>
lol
<qeeg>
spammers, man
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