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<nicolas17> I just use the discord website on the browser...
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<haxasaur> nicolas17: im using the web one too since im having trouble figuring out how to install armcord or webcord
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<chadmed_> haxasaur: is there anything the desktop app does that the browser doesnt which you need?
<chadmed_> im guessing its the soundboard :P
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<kode54> or a floating window for video chat
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<Gues__________________________> hi
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<mort_> hi
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<emm> whats M2 support like
<j`ey> the base m2 laptops have support
<j`ey> the mini and m2 pro/max ones are WIP
<emm> is the support for base M2 usable though?
<_jannau_> yes
<j`ey> yes
<emm> can it run TF2
<ChaosPrincess> if you mean team fortress 2 - none can run it, since steam crashes when you try to start it
<emm> oh
<emm> fuck
<_jannau_> and running steam is not exactly supported yet either
<ChaosPrincess> tho that is more of a fex issue than asahi issue
<emm> is it a 16k paging support issue?
<ChaosPrincess> maybe?
<ChaosPrincess> actually, no, i remembered - it isnt
<emm> is there a 4k paging version and does it support more applications
<ChaosPrincess> yes, there is, but steam still crashes
<emm> oh fuck
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<Whatdidyouexpect> hey uh
<Whatdidyouexpect> what are the chances that asahi is gonna brick my mac
<Whatdidyouexpect> its m2
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<ChaosPrincess> you can accidentally wipe a wrong partition or something similar that destroys your data, however as long as you have another machine with macos or linux - you can always recover your mac from pretty much anything.
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<Whatdidyouexpect> so if i fuck up macos i can just use a usb flash drive to recover it
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<nsklaus> ChaosPrincess: what the process would look like, in the general sense ? do we need some specific cable ? usbc to usbc connecting the two laptops ? then what ?
<ChaosPrincess> depends on how much you break macos. if you dont break the recovery partition - you can use it to recover, but if it is a full wipe of all partitions - you must connect another computer that runs apple configurator or idevicerestore, and then do the dfu recovery
<Whatdidyouexpect> oh
<Whatdidyouexpect> uh
<nsklaus> let's imagine i accidentaly wipe all partition on the mac
<ChaosPrincess> this is the guide
<Whatdidyouexpect> thanks
<ChaosPrincess> similar process if you are using idevicerestore
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<Whatdidyouexpect> i do have my old mac
<Whatdidyouexpect> apple config should be on there
<nsklaus> ChaosPrincess: i was interested in doing it without going the apple way, since you mentionned having a 2nd computer, running linux could help
<Whatdidyouexpect> ok thanks
<Whatdidyouexpect> ill try asahi out
<nsklaus> ChaosPrincess: in your idea when you said that, you thought about using the linux computer just to download some apple tools from internet, maybe ?
<ChaosPrincess> no, i was talking about using idevicerestore
<ChaosPrincess> which is basically console apple configurator that runs on linux
<nsklaus> ok, i'll have to readup on that
<nsklaus> thanks for telling
<Whatdidyouexpect> wait i can restore apple devices using linux???
<Whatdidyouexpect> huh
<Whatdidyouexpect> seems so
<i509vcb> I guess it's better than being even poorer
<Whatdidyouexpect> yeah
<Whatdidyouexpect> im not buying another m2 mac
<Whatdidyouexpect> if this bricks im going back to my old one
<Whatdidyouexpect> theres no way in hell im buying this again
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<abd> suspend/sleep is supported on asahi-edge for the m1, what mechanisms of suspending does this mean?
<opticron> last I read, it was s2idle
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<landscape15> Hello. I already asked this question on another Asahi related channel, but this probably is the best place to ask these kind of questions. Where can I find the XNU OS kernel payload on the Preboot partition? I'm trying to learn more about Apple security policy.
<landscape15> I couldn't find an answer on the wiki, and also a deep file system search didn't show me any .macho of the XNU kernel.
<ChaosPrincess> /System/Volumes/Preboot/{uuid}/boot/{hash}/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kernelcaches/kernelcache
<landscape15> Thank you a lot. So I can set a boot payload without the macho extension with bputil?
<ChaosPrincess> yes, i dont think it cares about extensions
<landscape15> Ok, that's good to know. Finally, is it a copy of the kernel image in /System/Library/Kernels? I'm sorry to bother.
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<ChaosPrincess> no, its that but with all kexts linked in
<ChaosPrincess> you can use kmutil to generate those from the kernel and all the kexts you want
<landscape15> Ok thanks again. I'll also read Apple official developer docs, which seem pretty clear.
<ChaosPrincess> there is a command on the wiki on how to generate those if you have the kdk installed
<landscape15> Yeah I have installed kdk but they took a lot of space and are version specific.
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