marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<marcan>
yes, package updates have been stopped for a while at upstream Arch Linux ARM. no idea what's going on.
<marcan>
nothing I can do about that, we depend on upstream.
<marcan>
(this is why we're switching distros)
<fredmb>
is it decided/public yet which distro?
<ar>
It was mentioned somewhere on fedi at some point
<fredmb>
Seems like the details are not public yet
<fredmb>
Reading some of the comments on marcan's (very patient and reasonable) remarks on Xorg was painful though:/
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<chadmed>
the shitstorm on the phoronix article is incredible
<chadmed>
some people are so rabid
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<mps>
handlerug: no, I didn't dropped but I 'accepted' help from ncopa (Natanael) for asahi pkgs for alpine
<mps>
though I told on alpine channel that I don't have much free time for other alpine pkgs and asked other people interested to help, to keep pkgs in 'good enough' shape
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<enthusiast>
greetings, question, has anyone played with https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp ? wondering whether we support the same optimizations that are working on mac os
<j`ey>
no, since it's using Accelerate framework, which uses AMX/ANE I believe
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<ChaosPrincess>
it should be able to run using just NEON, but will be slower
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<enthusiast>
ChaosPrincess: so I suppose support is detected at compilation?
<enthusiast>
ah but we don't inheirt neural acceleration
<enthusiast>
*inherit
<ChaosPrincess>
not sure what exactly you mean by 'detected', accelerate framework just isnt there at all on linux platforms.
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<jannau>
at all is not true. eiln is working on ane/CoreML conversion: https://github.com/eiln/anecc - it's not there for end users tough
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<ChaosPrincess>
llama.cpp uses amx mostly
<dottedmag>
Well, even when ANE is available, #include <Accelerate/Accelerate.h> in ggml.c won't work
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<enthusiast>
alright guys i guess i'll keep up with developments surrounding this
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<mps>
handlerug: forgot to add, we (alpine) don't have first and second class of arches, we trying to keep all arches equal, ofc as time and resources allows
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<handlerug>
mps: yeah I'm aware, that's a nice thing about Alpine
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<dubiousness>
"aarch64 good, x86_64 bad" - in the voice of farmyard animals
<dubiousness>
I jest, of course
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<marcan>
AMX will never be available, because reasons. don't ask for it.
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<bcrumb>
for me it's too late, my distro is too customized to be able to migrate now, but i think everyone should be excited for a migration. my guess is that it's going to be debian
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