marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<bluetail> come to think of
<bluetail> the other day sway under asahi archlinux would temporarily blank my external screens. I guess this is a wayland specific issue...
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<j`ey> how much space does a venture update need? i have 20G free space according to disk utilty.. but apparently it's not enough??
<j`ey> 'at least 25G' insane..
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<ChaosPrincess> Doesnt the updater work by making a new copy of macos root image and then swapping them around?
<ChaosPrincess> so while stupid, that could make sense.
<j`ey> I dont even know if I can free up space.. this is pretty much just a blank macOS install
<j`ey> so 70GB maybe wasn't big enough for macOS partition..
<jannau> I think my clean macos volume groups use around 20GB
<jannau> there's numbers, pages and the presentation app which can be deleted
<jannau> maybe a few more apps as well. just try to drag everything into the bin
<j`ey> that wont add up to enough data
<j`ey> and looks like I already did that
<nsklaus> you could move the install image to an external drive and mount it from there
<nsklaus> that would free that much space on internal drive
<j`ey> I have this 'macos Install Data' folder that's 12G.. but I also have an 11G venture updater in Applications..
<jannau> I think the updater from system settings nowadays requires less space
<j`ey> hm, that macos INstall Data is from 2022, so that must be old, im going to see if I can delete that
<jannau> any idea from when 'macos Install Data' is? leftover from the 12.x update?
<j`ey> ^ 2022, so must be from 12.x
<j`ey> rm'd that, installing 13. now
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<dubiousness> I don't use Mastodon but the hate received for the Xorg stuff is unwarranted
<dubiousness> Community needs to be better sometimes
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<jannau> dubiousness: where do you see hate? Xorg has issues, especially on asahi linux. virtually nobody involved with graphics on linux thinks it makes sense to work on this issues. especially as far as the display driver for apple silicon is involved, supporting wayland is simpler because it is very close to what macos does
<jannau> discovering how to use the display hw in atypical (compared to macOS) ways is much harder. There's still tons of features missing compared to macOS we have to support for wayland
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<jannau> there are no developers left to work on Xorg and no new ones coming. that should be good indication that nobody wants to work on it
<Tramtrist> I mean just go read his recent posts... pretty much listed there
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<bcrumb> i ran pacman -Syy after not updating for more than a week and i am apparently up-to-date?
<bcrumb> am i having some type of issue with the package database?
<jn> i'm not familiar with arch/pacman, but that seems to be missing the -u option
<bcrumb> nah, because, pacman -Qu shows me all the packages which need upgrading
<bcrumb> -Su would upgrade
<bcrumb> but -Qu shows no new versions, anything
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<handlerug> you're not alone, bcrumb
<handlerug> someone else reported that here too
<handlerug> that makes us three
<psykose> hundreds, etc
<handlerug> alpine linux asahi remix when 🥺 at least alpine's got proper support for aarch64
<j`ey> handlerug: already?
<j`ey> handlerug: https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/packages?name=*asahi*&branch=edge&repo=&arch=&maintainer=
<handlerug> I thought mps dropped maintainment of these packages
<j`ey> i didnt see that
<handlerug> funny that alpine's linux-asahi is newer than asahi's
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