marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<alyssa> why is enabling CONFIG_USB_GADGET necessary for host mode type-C to work on these machines? who knows
* alyssa shrugs
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<Luke-Jr> from searching, I see that qemu lacks Metal virtualization; but I also saw a reference to a macOS kernel for virtualization which might not require Metal - has anyone tried that or know how viable it might be?
<Luke-Jr> (for macOS inside KVM on Asahi)
<nicolas17> there is indeed a macOS kernel for VMs, designed for virtualization of macos-on-macos, but it may be possible to get qemu to run it
<Luke-Jr> would it be a terrible idea to get a M2 Max for Asahi? guessing the M2 and M1 Max statuses being what they are, it might not be too long a wait for it to be reasonably usable? or am I being naive?
<psykose> famous fascist luke dashjr ?
<Luke-Jr> psykose: I don't think name-calling and slander fits the code of conduct or topic? https://asahilinux.org/code-of-conduct/
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<marcan> alyssa: because we only support dual mode because the whole thing is kind of a mess (cc sven)
<marcan> luke-jr: macos *userspace* requires metal if you want graphics at all
<alyssa> marcan: yeah, I figured as much.
<Luke-Jr> marcan: does Apple virtualise Metal for its own VMs? :/ really the only thing I want to do is run "Find My" from a perl script >_<
<marcan> yes
<nicolas17> luke-jr: which part, finding a device?
<marcan> the real kernels don't require paravirt metal, they require a real AGX GPU
* alyssa finds high level graphics virtualization (svga/virgl/venus) distasteful
<marcan> the vmkernel requires paravirt metal
<Luke-Jr> nicolas17: yes, I have a simple perl script that refreshes Find My and uploads the cached location to the external host system
<nicolas17> luke-jr: if the device in question is online, you might be able to do the underlying HTTP API calls to Apple
<nicolas17> the new crowdsourced offline finding is a whole other can of worms
<psykose> luke-jr: i don't think technically accurate statements are slander
<Luke-Jr> yes, that's what it is for
<Luke-Jr> airtags are pretty much unusable without the real Find My app, right now
<nicolas17> psykose: if you have concerns about someone, bring it up to the ops in private
<nicolas17> luke-jr: ah yes for airtags you're screwed in that case :p
<marcan> psykose: I'm sorry, what is this about?
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<alyssa> May 24 22:01:43 applejack xdg-desktop-portal-wlr[42354]: 2023/05/24 22:01:43 [ERROR] - xdpw: Could not find render node
<alyssa> May 24 22:01:43 applejack xdg-desktop-portal-wlr[42354]: 2023/05/24 22:01:43 [ERROR] - xdpw: Could not find render node
<alyssa> May 24 22:01:43 applejack xdg-desktop-portal-wlr[42354]: DRM_IOCTL_ASAHI_CREATE_BO failed: Invalid argument
<alyssa> May 24 22:01:43 applejack xdg-desktop-portal-wlr[42354]: BO creation failed
<alyssa> ....Oh ffs
<nicolas17> lol applejack
<marcan> luke-jr: looking into your post history, I am not comfortable having you be a part of this community. please leave.
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<marcan> nicolas17: yesterday I was reading ceph-users and someone had Touhou character hostnames... we're all nerds here :p
<marcan> I was tempted to reply "well of *course* Patchy wouldn't allow you to delete her library^Wfilesystem"
<nicolas17> I started using LEGO Bionicle characters as naming scheme *mumblemumble* years ago and I stuck with it
<nicolas17> I was just appreciating the pun of using *apple*jack for a *mac* :D
<nicolas17> marcan: years ago someone gave me access to his Haiku OS machine to test something and he had ssh running on port 575, and I didn't notice the reference until he pointed it out >_<
<marcan> :D
<marcan> maybe I should move ssh to 495
<sven> alyssa: dual
<sven> bah
<sven> alyssa: dual mode is required because we need to reset dwc3 on every plug event
<sven> it’s a hack but the least terrible one
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<veeyee> Are there any docs for getting screensharing working? Using Google Hangouts via Chromium. Pipewire flag enabled.
<veeyee> I choose the desktop with the KDE window, but then the Chrome window just shows a grey screen for the desktop and sharing doesn't work
<waldi> veeyee: this does not sound like an asahi question. but check if chrome://flags/#ozone-platform-hint is set to "Auto" or "Wayland"
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<veeyee> It's set to Default. Which appears to be X11, Doh!
<veeyee> Default = X11, Auto = Try to detect, X11 = X11, Wayland = Wayland
<_jannau_> you will probably hit https://bugs.chromium.org/p/webrtc/issues/detail?id=15174 next though
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<marcan> try PIPEWIRE_DEBUG=4 as a (very dumb and not guaranteed but worked for me by luck) workaround, until the change is released
<marcan> alternatively the next kernel update will include a workaround for that bug
<marcan> doesn't look like it got backported to 114 so you'll probably have to wait for chromium 115 for a real fix
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<alyssa> sven: ahhhh right yes that
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<patwid> is anyone running intellij on asahi?
<patwid> i tried running it on nixos, but it seems to be only running on x86_64-linux
<patwid> if i understand correctly though, it should be possible to run on aarch64-linux as well
<patwid> at least, according to the package build in the AUR: : https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=intellij-idea-ultimate-edition
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