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<zerdox> yeah. i am using it for web development environment, thanks to asahi team and community. best machine so far :) also never going back to laptops with active cooling, fans suck
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<jb1277976> PaulFertser: nothing. i really like linux though :P im running arch right now on an older laptop and put my m1 to the side for now until linux is ready for it.
<jb1277976> until linux is ready for the m1*
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<dylanchapell> jb1277976: I use my m1 air for school and it works well for me. no external displays is a pain point, but for my use case it is mostly "ready". everyone's requirements are different though.
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<jb1277976> Thanks dylanchapell
<nicolas17> jb1277976: "until linux is ready" depends on each person's needs, maybe it's ready for you already, are you missing a particular feature?
<jb1277976> nicolas17: let me read up on the site and see if i can use it
<chadmed> many people here have been dailying linux on these machines for a very long time
<chadmed> i and a few others for nigh on two years now
<jb1277976> nice
<jb1277976> chadmed: what distro?
<chadmed> gentoo here, but asahi (either the alarm or fedora flavours) work fine too
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<mps> I'm using m1 for nearly two years as workstation for development and $day_job and everything (it is 'daily driver' for me)
<mps> alpine linux
<mps> some people use debian, some nixos and some openbsd
<mps> all software I need works fine
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<ydalton> i guess i'll add my two cents here... almost everything i need works; the only thing i'm really missing is virtualization (which i might need for school) and wine programs such as openmpt. otherwise my experience is great! i think proper virtualization i can get with fedora asahi but i'm waiting for the official release before i fully migrate over.
<ydalton> with slp's krunvm work i think i'll be able to use wine programs, but i'm not sure about that
<stintel> no idea about wine, but "normal" virtualization works fine, I run home assistant OS in a qemu VM
<ydalton> really? in arch linux arm?
<stintel> and no external monitor support ... that's why I opted for the 15" air. it's surprisingly usable :)
<j`ey> ydalton: do you mean virtualisation, or emulation (x86)?
<stintel> running Gentoo but using the asahi kernel config
<ydalton> i'm talking about virtualization, i think i can get away with the arm64 version of openmpt
<ydalton> from what i heard (and saw myself) the alarm qemu packages are broken
<j`ey> they should work
<j`ey> older versions might not have
<j`ey> but theyre on 8.x now
<ydalton> i'll give it a go
<ydalton> maybe things have changed
<ydalton> when did 8.x come out?
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<mps> ydalton: 8.0 is released in april iirc, and 8.1 in august
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<ydalton> hm that was way before i even got this macbook
<ydalton> from what i could tell there were just missing packages in alarm for qemu
<mps> idk if the alarm/fedora/debian have it in repos
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<ydalton> well qemu/virt-manager seems to work
<ydalton> i haven't tested an actual virtual machine yet
<ydalton> fedora workstation aarch64 isos are with a 4k kernel right?
<mps> qemu worked on alpine first day I switched to linux on m1 (soon will be two years), on alpine linux
<ydalton> stintel: regarding external monitor support jannau on fedi has demonstrated dp-alt-mode with the m2 mac mini
<ydalton> it now has to integrated with the drm drivers for an accelerated experience
<ydalton> and i hope this could mean external monitors on asahi, so i can finally go clamshell mode
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<ydalton> well, i've hit a snag: i've gotten an error in virt-manager saying i need to enable uefi for acpi, but i can't find any of the edk packages, just the virt-firmware package
<ydalton> usually on x86_64 arch linux i would install the edk2-ovmf package for this but it's not in the repo
<ydalton> this is exactly why i would like to migrate to fedora
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<mps> qemu should install edk* files in /usr/share/qemu
<ydalton> well, i see a bunch of rom files in that directory
<mps> ls -l /usr/share/qemu/edk2* on my machine shows https://tpaste.us/Z5Xd
<ydalton> i am getting exactly none of that
<ydalton> no edk2* files in there
<mps> which distro
<ydalton> alarm
<ydalton> i think i can wait until school starts
<ydalton> i wait that's monday
<ydalton> one of my classes needs docker
<mps> did you installed qemu-system-$yourdesired_target pkg
<ydalton> i have qemu-system-aarch64
<mps> then there should be /usr/share/qemu/edk2-aarch64-code.fd
<mps> but I'm not sure because I don't use alarm so don't know where are these files
<ydalton> ls: cannot access '/usr/share/qemu/edk*': No such file or directory
<ydalton> i remember the edk images being in /usr/share/edk2
<ydalton> and that directory does not exist on my installation
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<ydalton> nor does /usr/share/ovmf
<jeisom> I just tried installing qemu-full and it had missing dependancies of edk2-arm
<ydalton> yep
<ydalton> that was the exact error i had a while ago
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<mps> ovmf pkg should have /usr/share/OVMF/QEMU_EFI.fd
<ydalton> no dice
<ydalton> `pacman -Ss ovmf` returns nothing
<mps> have no more ideas what could be problem
<ydalton> it's a alarm isuse
<ydalton> s/isuse/issue
<mps> (on alpine everything is there)
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<ydalton> i haven't used alpine all that much... all i know apk is a wicked fast package manager
<jeisom> Best suggestion is get the PKGBUILD from arch(not alarm) and use that to package as those are packaged upstream but not in alarm
<ydalton> i usually do that with packages i don't find (like wine), didn't work out
<ydalton> if i really need a virtual machine (like for school) then i will try to work something out
<ydalton> otherwise i'm not really in a rush
<ydalton> jeison: thanks for the link
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<yuey> hi all, does anyone try to run ventura on the m1n1 hypervisor? I got a dependency issue, however, im pretty sure these kexts exist. I tried to copy the kexts to my home and edit the dependecies/versions, but didn't work.
<yuey> I got: kmutil create -z -n boot -a arm64e -B ~/dev.kc.macho -V development \  
<yuey> -k kernel.development.t8103 \
<yuey> -x -b com.apple.driver.CanonEOS1D
<yuey> -r ~/Extensions \
<yuey> -r ~/DriverExtensions \
<yuey> Error Domain=KMErrorDomain Code=71 "Unable to resolve dependencies: 'com.apple.driver.CanonEOS1D' names a dependency on 'com.apple.iokit.IO
<yuey> FireWireSerialBusProtocolTransport', which was not found." UserInfo={NSLocalizedDescription=Unable to resolve dependencies: 'com.apple.driv
<yuey> er.CanonEOS1D' names a dependency on 'com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSerialBusProtocolTransport', which was not found.}
<yuey> im trying to install a 12.6 instead.
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<ydalton> i successfully moved to fedora asahi! i kinda had to due to school needing some stuff like vagrant
<ydalton> i forgot a few things, like my custom gnome theme; now i need to make that again by hand...
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<ydalton> yuey: did you install m1n1 to a macOS volume?
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<yuey> ydalton: yes, i did. i installed the full asahi and opened the backdoor. i can access the proxy mode.
<yuey> frustrating, i spent one hour to install a 12.6, and use softwareupdate balalabal 12.6.8. After reboot, it's 12.6.9, and Apple doesnt provide a KDK of 12.6.9:'(
<nicolas17> ugh
<nicolas17> yuey: Apple is very inconsistent releasing KDKs
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<nicolas17> one time someone resorted to sending a Technical Support Incident to Apple (you get two per year with a developer account, $50/each after that)
<yuey> nicolas: now l learnt. I think the most safe way is download an installer by macadmin-scripts and install it without the Internet, isn't it?
<ydalton> if you want to run macOS in the hypervisor, you need to install it to a macOS installation
<nicolas17> yuey: do you need 12.6.8?
<ydalton> i was able to run ventura in the hypervisor
<psykose> nicolas17: rofl
<psykose> nice post
<ydalton> nicholas17: hahahahahaha
<yuey> nicolas: i think i need. my case is, im not able to generate the kernelcache for dependency issue. but idk how to solve it.
<yuey> sorry, it's ydalton : (
<ydalton> yuey: i just used the stock kernelcache that came with macOS
<ydalton> do you need the KDK or the stock kernel cache will do?
<yuey> ydalton: im running the latest ventura, 13.5.2. because im not a macos exper, i just follow the hypervisor wiki to make sure i dont miss anything
<sven> stock is fine
<yuey> ydalton: if i can use a stock kernelcache, that would be perfect. where can i find it
<ydalton> goto the section "Running the stock macOS kernel from a macOS install"
<yuey> ydalton: i see, thanks a lot!!
<yuey> i'll try it.
<ydalton> unfortunately i couldn't get this to work with the latest version of ventura
<ydalton> maybe you might have some luck
<yuey> lol, hopefully
<nicolas17> well you're on the latest monterey so maybe?
<ydalton> oh yeah, unrelated question, has anyone gotten mesa-asahi-edge working in flatpak?
<ydalton> i cloned the repo and installed it
<ydalton> but the flatpaks still do software rendering
<yuey> nicolas17: im on the latest ventura, 13.5.2 build 22G91
<nicolas17> otherwise if you need a KDK, you could install macOS with the InstallAssistant.pkg of 12.6.8 :P
<nicolas17> you said you installed 12.6.9 but there was no KDK?
<yuey> and my new alter is on 12.6.9, i think i need to wipe it and reinstall a 12.6.8
<yuey> yes, no KDK for 12.6.9
<nicolas17> https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/Firmware/Mac/12.x you can get 12.6.8 installer here
<yuey> thanks! let's try the stock cache on 13.5.2 first.
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<ydalton> you know what to do right?
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<ydalton> after you've obtained the kernelcache you need to bring it to another computer
<yuey> ydalton: yes. i'll follow the instruction
<yuey> as well as the DWARF
<ydalton> dunno about that
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<kallisti> "Expert mode" question. If this is not appropriate here, please suggest where I may enquire: I noticed a comment on https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/asahi/2023-09-11 after I asked regarding the asahi installer. It wasn't quite clear, but looks like someone was suggesting that expert mode installation might work, and the reason for the current install being marked unsupported was due to missing external monitor support (for the installer?)?
<kallisti> Is it generally safe for me to attempt the "Expert mode" installation, with common sense without losing the existing MacOS?
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<ydalton> it's called expert mode for a reason
<ydalton> you want asahi on m2 max?
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<ydalton> hi, i'm having problems running vagrant in fedora asahi. it gives me an error involving qemu
<ydalton>
<ydalton> i saw something like you need to pass -highmem=off to qemu but i can't test that
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