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<RoundDuckKira> how do you debug dt
<Tramtrist> anyone know of any movement on the gammastep functionality (sway/non KDE) ?
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<PaulFertser> If someone can ping me when RoundDuckKira is back that would be good.
<PaulFertser> Or just help with that straightforward question about speaker safety if I'm not around please.
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<chadmed> PaulFerster: the asoc driver determins the control names not the dt. the kernel is probably just really old
<PaulFertser> chadmed: yes I figured after a quick look at the driver. Sad regular users here didn't give a hand right away seeing the dmesg.
<leio> Tramtrist: GAMMA_LUT?
<PaulFertser> leio: the kernel driver can't provide any kind of gamma control currently but it allows the userspace to pass a custom linear RGB tranform matrix and KDE is able to use that to adjust the colours somewhat, I guess that's what Tramtrist is talking about.
<leio> that's what I'm asking, is he talking about that, and then as follow-up for what
<PaulFertser> But that's not gamma at all.
<chadmed> parting words before i hit the hay, everything should simply use the CTM property correctly and stop relying on gamma_lut to behave like a CTM
<chadmed> that kind of legacy xorg rubbish needs to go away
<chadmed> there is a whole mess of hardware that doesnt support gamma_lut at all
<chadmed> userspace is easier to change than taping out a new display controller
<PaulFertser> Everything should be able of using ICC profiles :/
<chadmed> yes, hence why CTM support is important
<chadmed> with the DisplayP3 profile on my monitors kwin night colour works absolutely perfectly
<PaulFertser> But CTM is linear so it's not really providing any kind of proper colour management at all.
<PaulFertser> It does the job for "night colours" sure.
<chadmed> it works fine for ICC profiles too
<chadmed> gamma_lut is not neccessary, and even if we did use it all it does is encode a vector of linear coefficients expressed in hex
<PaulFertser> Did Asahi got support for colour profiles recently? I thought it's completely unimplemented.
<janneg> are you sure kwin doesn't use GPU shaders for colormanagement?
<janneg> kwin 6 does
<chadmed> yeah, but point is its applied to the pixel data before it even gets to the ctm
<chadmed> so we dont need to care about gamma_lut for colour management
<PaulFertser> So with kwin 6 you can properly calibrate the display and it's just doing all adjustments with GPU pixel shaders?
<chadmed> yep, i have a display p3 icc profile applied right now
<chadmed> its a bit jank still, like panels spontaneously turning black etc but that might also be the gpu driver
<PaulFertser> I wonder if macOS does it the GPU shaders way too and if not how the calibration accuracy compares.
<PaulFertser> It feels kind of backwards that each compositor needs to implement that on their own.
<PaulFertser> As if that's a wrong level of abstraction. With X11 I can use any window manager and have all the generic features work the same.
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<hdbngr> Hi, whats it all about the IPSW versions and it's dependencies. When trying to get it work for M3 Pro chip, should I use a new version of them?
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<j`ey> hdbngr: just use the same version it came with I guess, the exact version can be fixed later
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