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<dylanchapell> after running an offline update on f40, plasmashell is crashing continuously. any ideas on what I should try? (more info on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/AsahiLinux/comments/1cwu1h9/plasmashell_crashing_on_login_after_latest_update/ )
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<ShadowWhisperer> this work?
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<alice> yea
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<ShadowWhisperer1> anyone recenlty had issues with asahi fedora after updating
<ShadowWhisperer1> mine just would error and stay in grub
<ShadowWhisperer1> ive unistalled and re installed multuipul times
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<LarstiQ> ShadowWhisperer: what error, what hardware?
<ShadowWhisperer> ill need to re install it but im on a 2020 m1 pro macbook pro
<ShadowWhisperer> 14 inch
<ShadowWhisperer> ill re install later
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<kode54> KDDLB was having trouble attempting a fresh install today on an M1 Macbook Air
<kode54> some update process just hung for an extended period
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<KDDLB> I will try again tomorrow
<kode54> if you feel like it
<kode54> I only mentioned it because it's a coincidence another M1 laptop user having troubles with install or updates
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<Nefsen402> Apparently there was an update to macos that caused trouble in m1n1 so it updated
<Nefsen402> but the update broke m1 laptops
<Nefsen402> they pushed another fix afterwards but maybe someone installed at exactly the wrong moment?
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<dontdieych> anyone still using asahi-archlinux?
<j`ey> there's still some users yeah
<dontdieych> I really want arch and aur desperately.
<dontdieych> j`ey: thanks
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<joske> dontdieych: also look at my other PRs, most notably: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/PKGBUILDs/pull/40 and https://github.com/AsahiLinux/PKGBUILDs/pull/42
<dontdieych> joske: thanks for your works. :D but first I shoud figure out how to install or convert to arch (currently on M2 air + nixos)
<dontdieych> anyway, after that new sound things speaker sounds are little bit different. I've found some convolver filter added
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<j`ey> dontdieych: does nix not have some kinda aur thingy?
<j`ey> dontdieych: since your comment seemed pretty on topic, 7h seems decent, are you happy or not with that?
<dontdieych> j`ey: official nixpkgs is quite good for pkg coverage actually. ye, but 1:1 match with aur
<dontdieych> j`ey: batt things are just for fun and hope to help someone want compare it with own. It's not bad at all and I'm mostly on AC power.
<dontdieych> s/but 1:1 match with aur/but not 1:1 match with aur/
<dontdieych> j`ey: I'm just missing arch's UX overall.
<j`ey> dontdieych: makes sense, Im also on AC most of the time
<j`ey> dontdieych: if you want to install arch now, you have to set EXPERT=1 as an env var before running the installer
<dontdieych> with current official asahi installer ?
<j`ey> yeah
<dontdieych> j`ey: thanks very much and let me go to backup things.
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<dontdieych> j`ey: In macos, command should be `export EXPERT=1 && curl https://alx.sh | sh` right?
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<j`ey> dontdieych: yeah
<j`ey> if it works you should see arch
<dontdieych> how about news about recent sonoma update?
<dontdieych> I din't do yet
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<dontdieych> It would be better to postpone this EXPERT job to tomorrow. Second beer can opened.
<dontdieych> s/ ... /I got the second beer
<j`ey> I believe the installer has been updated to include a new m1n1, but I dont think the sonoma bugs would affect your model anyway
<dontdieych> j`ey: OK. thanks.
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<dontdieych> ye, backup completed. I'll do reinstall tomortow. thanks for all of your advice and joske 's works.
<j`ey> gl
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<dontdieych> j`ey: thanks. gl for tomorrow
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<stintel> which macOS version was not safe to upgrade to? I'm temporarily using macOS again because I need external monitor and like to upgrade but avoid killing my Gentoo install
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<Nefsen402> It should be safe to update to the latest macos if you have a recent uboot version (recent as in from 2 weeks ago)
<Nefsen402> You can update it from macos using the installer
<j`ey> s/uboot/m1n1
<Nefsen402> I need to readup no this stuff again. Uboot was the UEFI emulation thingie?
<j`ey> and usb and keyboard drivers
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<bluetail> my ECC server is done. In any case, this is far more responsive - even if its just listing contents of a directory. HBA, 20x20TB disks. Great! Just need to optimize noise/temparature a bit, close to 50 celsius. But practically, those are enterprise disks, they are rated with max of 75c
<tramtrist> What ever happeend to the FEX activity? Is there anyone using it/publishing a tutorial or anything on it?
<tramtrist> totally lost track
<j`ey> check reddit
<j`ey> someone on there posts some (kinda haphazard) guides
<tramtrist> oh ok. Thanks j`ey
<tramtrist> I thought it was 'being upstreamed' or something
<j`ey> the mesa parts arent upstream yet
<jannau> attention: asahi-6.8.9-6 can probably still corrupt data on dm-crypt backed storage. the single reverted commit was not sufficient
<bluetail> jannau do we have asahi lts? :D
<bluetail> maybe one ver is old enough so that its not affected from this
<jannau> no
<j`ey> 6.8 itself had the issue
<jannau> 6.6 based kernels are not affected
<j`ey> jannau: did you ever repro running dav1d only?
<jannau> j`ey: no, just dav1d alone on an otherwhise idle system is stable so user space <-> user space seems fp state handling seems fine
<jannau> I think I crashed sddm + llvmpipe though with running fio on dm-crypt
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<j`ey> alright
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<dylanchapell> can someone try to reproduce a bug I am hitting? when I add a memory usage widget to the KDE taskbar and click on it, plasmashell crashes.
<dylanchapell> steps to reproduce: 1. create a new user account (so yours doesn't get in a crash loop) 2. log in, right click on task bar. Click add widget. 3. Add the Memory Usage widget 4. Click on the widget in the taskbar. What happens to me here is plasmashell crashes. If that also happens to you, click the power button once, click clog out, then go back to your user account and delete the test one.
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<bluetail> dylanchapell what would that accomplish
<bluetail> You need to reproduce that on KDE Neon and report it there. This is unlikely an Asahi issue. I consider KDE as easy to crash...
<dylanchapell> I would like to see if that casues plasmashell to crash or not on someone else's system or if it is my problem
<dylanchapell> I tried it on x86_64 fedora 40 and it did not crash
<bluetail> yea then report it at KDE's end
<bluetail> you need a log with symbols, preferrably gdb !
<bluetail> get crash dump
<bluetail> but proper one
<bluetail> Without that its just so dang worthless
<bluetail> FYI you can crash KDE by using the rules system. Or simply by having Addons installed
<bluetail> First thing KDE suggests is to remove all addons / changes that aren't "original"
<bluetail> Have you used gdb before?
<bluetail> Additionally, what changes did you do since install? Is it possible for you to create a NEW user and check if it happens there?
<j`ey> they already did that
<bluetail> ah
<bluetail> dylanchapell did you already do that? https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Debugging
<bluetail> Also sorry if I am not helpful enough. I wished people didn't have to mess with all these shenanigans. Those Desktop Environments aren't simple anymore. It just got lots of failure points...
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<dylanchapell> it did not crash while running in plasmawindowed. I will try to attach gdb to plasmashell and get a dump.
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<bluetail> with debug symbols
<bluetail> pls
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<dylanchapell> Here is the GDB log. I used dnf debuginfo-install plasma-desktop to try to get the symbols. https://host.dylanchapell.com/files/plasmashell-memwidget-crash-gdb.txt
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<PaulFertser> dylanchapell: std::clamp() asserting! That is strange.
<PaulFertser> dylanchapell: it does it if it's passed upper limit lower than the lower limit.
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