marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<i509vcb> I'm not sure if this is a red herring for my network issues at home, but I noticed these messages in the dmesg output:
<i509vcb> [ 2.641838] ieee80211 phy0: brcmf_p2p_set_firmware: failed to update device address ret -52
<i509vcb> [ 2.642128] ieee80211 phy0: brcmf_p2p_create_p2pdev: set p2p_disc error
<i509vcb> [ 2.642131] ieee80211 phy0: brcmf_cfg80211_add_iface: add iface p2p-dev-wlan0 type 10 failed: err=-52
<i509vcb> And then after some audio junk this:
<i509vcb> [ 44.898614] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready
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<kode54> dammit
<kode54> now I can’t find the story about how flaky M1’s USB interface is
<kode54> or did I just imagine that whole thing
<kode54> about how the entire USB device tree rebuilds itself every time a device is attached or detached
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<sven> Not the device tree
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<sven> but the entire phy and dwc3 controller have to be fully reset
<sven> so it’s only a part of the entire usb tree :D
<jannau> kunev: the best option would be to map the compose key via xkb (or your DE frontends for that)
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<jannau> i509vcb: I'm not seeing this but I'm not convinced this explains wlan network errors. does your setup uses iwd?
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<i509vcb> jannau: This happens with both iwd and wpa_supplicant
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<ned> Hi. Maybe a weird question, but I'm planning on buying a macbook air m2 and wondering whether I need 16 or 24 gb. I want to use it to learn kernel development (which is why I thought this might be a good place to ask).
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<ChaosPrincess> what software do you run
<ChaosPrincess> and how long do you expect that machine to leave before you replace it
<ChaosPrincess> s/leave/live/
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<ned> probably macos (although maybe asahi linux depending on how stable it is)
<ned> it'll be my main machine, and I'd love it if it lasted 5-10 years
<ChaosPrincess> i mean more specific apps.
<ned> oh, browser + terminal + vim
<ChaosPrincess> like, idk, do you want to be able to open more than 2 chrome tabs :P
<ned> and VMs of course
<ChaosPrincess> and inside said vms?
<ChaosPrincess> and how many at a time
<ned> well, just for kernel development, so I guess compiling + vim
<ChaosPrincess> id say 16 should be fine
<ned> not sure how many VMs kernel devs typically run? Maybe 1 at a time?
<ned> Cool, thanks!
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<kunev> jannau: thanks! I think the issue is I'm actually somehow not setting it properly through hid_params, cause it doesn't seem to persist across boots (it should according to most internet references I found) and I think that's what got me fooled that the right cmd is just alt, it is in fact ralt just by setting swap_opt_cmd.
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<mattf> where can i find an asahi linux iso to run on a vm?
<mattf> m1 built archlinux iso, does that exist
<ChaosPrincess> there isnt really a reason to run asahi in a vm, just run generic arm64
<mattf> virtualization instead of emulation, fast VM
<mattf> thats the reason
<mattf> can i run generic arm64 virtualized?
<ChaosPrincess> yes
<mattf> ah
<mattf> lets try that
<ChaosPrincess> asahi kernel is specifically for bare metal support, vms do not emulate mac hardware, but generic hardware that is already supported by upstream kernel
<nsklaus> i'd like to find an asahi iso to run baremetal on m2pro laptop :)
<ChaosPrincess> just build asahi-wip, and it should work? but no support
<nsklaus> ChaosPrincess: really ? is there a bit of doc on the steps to go through ?
<ChaosPrincess> which part of "no support" was unclear :P
<nsklaus> i thought it was no support in case of 'asahi burned my house when i used the wip branch'
<ChaosPrincess> but really, i think you can smash a working version together, but you need to know how everything works internally for that, and i ain't into handholding when i myself dont have the hardware
<nsklaus> if there was a short rudimentary text file showing approximately the steps i'd need to go through, i'd test it. but there since the arch is different than pc and all, i bet i'd mess with bootloader steps
<nsklaus> i mean if i attempted on my own. there's that whole chain of m1n1, uboot, and some more, i have no idea how to put that together
<nsklaus> maybe there's an up to date install script on wip branch ? maybe that would support my m2pro at this point ?
<nsklaus> or maybe i could scrutinize currently available installer script and try guess work to adapt for my laptop
<mps> nsklaus: does this fit your needs https://arvanta.net/alpine/install-alpine-m1/
<mps> outdated somewhat though
<nsklaus> mps: would that work for M2pro if i do small adaptation here and there, or would it require overhaul rewrite of that article ?
<mps> I think it could be updated now to support new machines
<nsklaus> that would be nice
<mps> nsklaus: not sure, have to create new image with new kernel
<mps> today I don't have time for this, probably will do tomorrow
<nsklaus> mps: there's no rush but i'll certainly be interested in this, if you can ping me if there's any change i'll be sure to look at it
<ChaosPrincess> nsklaus: so, do you have another m machine
<mps> nsklaus: will try to remember
<nsklaus> ChaosPrincess: i have a 14" 2023 macbookpro m2pro laptop
<ChaosPrincess> thats it?
<nsklaus> and an ipad m1 but that probably doesn't count here
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<nsklaus> i have other laptop around but they are x86
<nsklaus> mps: i have bookmarked that page and i'll continue read it, it is good description for the boot process and all
<nsklaus> thanks for that link
<ChaosPrincess> anyway, run installer in expert mode, and lets see how far it goes into boot process
<ChaosPrincess> worst case you will just have a useless install
<nsklaus> ChaosPrincess: current installer ?
<ChaosPrincess> yea
<nsklaus> or wip branch installer ?
<ChaosPrincess> try current, lets see how it goes
<ChaosPrincess> (in case it wasnt obvious, im doing it live :P)
<nsklaus> ChaosPrincess: is it still : curl https://alx.sh | sh ?
<ChaosPrincess> yep, but add EXPERT=1 to sh
<nsklaus> curl https://alx.sh | EXPERT=1 sh <-- like so ?
<ChaosPrincess> yes
<nsklaus> maybe we could try that in /query ?
<nsklaus> to not pollute main chan with these steps, questions,answers, and all ?
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<mps> nsklaus_: I found 10 minutes of time and updated https://dev.alpinelinux.org/~mps/m1/m1-usb-alpine-install.img.xz alpine img
<mps> just tested it on j293 model, it boots
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