marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<nightstrike> if a particular laptop wifi support is listed as TBA, presumably that means that wifi doesn't work yet. How do you test it then? Do you use a VM?
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<marcan> without wifi?
<marcan> wired internet is a thing
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<chadmed> it is unfortunately common around these parts for people to call "internet" or networking in general "the wifi"
<mps> chadmed: OT but internet started as 'wifi', ALOHA project was based on radio communication
<PaulFertser_> In Israel they call EMV smartcards (for contactless payments) "wifi".
<mps> and also first long haul 'net' communication was radio signals from Black Sea to Baltic Sea and was digital-morse codes
<maz> eh, even my SO says "the wifi is down" when I reboot the fibre gateway (and the APs are up...). I pretend I don't understand...
<mps> as a radio amateur (HAM) sometimes I call wifi packet radio
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<kidplayer666> nightstrike: If you test in a VM you probably won’t be testing the actual drivers, merely virtual drivers that VMware or Oracle have made. The only way to actually test them is to run them bare metal. (Unless you just want to try linux in general and not the driver support)
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<kidplayer666> And with me sometimes it do be Wi-Fi that is down. My sister complaining that Wi-Fi ain’t working and me chilling with cable on my room
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<maz> kidplayer666: you have a very restrictive view of what a hypervisor does. direct access to HW from a VM is very common.
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<kidplayer666> :maz i know that there are tecniques like pcie passthrough and such, but I’ve never actually used that, so I just speak from my limited experience
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<kettenis> hmm, at $DAYJOB we send radio signals over the internet... ;)
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<janneg> marcan: m1n1-1.4.0/asahi-dev fails with "Failed to prepare FDT" with no clear indication why on j375d. There is "ADT: '/arm-io/isp' not found" just above it but I don't see how that could break things
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<janneg> looks like we ended up with the isp alias in the t600x-common.dtsi
<janneg> t600x-common.dtsi: isp = &isp;
<janneg> that needs to go to t600x-j314-j316.dtsi
<eiln> isn't it a bit less error prone to work with the actual fdt path instead of aliases? correct me if I'm wrong
<janneg> I don't see how that makes a difference
<janneg> in this case our check if we should skip the isp handling depends on on the alias not beging present
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<janneg> if we used the the whole path we need to add a check whether the node is not disabled
<leio> the chrome bti issue was a SIGILL, right?
<leio> if so, where can I find a patch? :)
<janneg> t8103 and t8112 seem to have the same issue
<eiln> ah I did not know that, nvm
<janneg> this was supposed to got to #asahi-dev
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<Zeroine_> Hi
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<Zeroine_> I can't reinstall macos because the installer in recovery throws an error towards the end "An error occured while preparing the installation. Try running this application again". I guess this is not the right place to ask help how to resolve this so I just wanted to ask if it's possible to get at least asahi installed through recovery since I have no macos.
<Zeroine_> the recovery doesn't have python btw
<j`ey> the installer includes python
<Zeroine_> oh
<Zeroine_> so I can just run it from recovery? I'm just asking because I can't DFU in case anything goes more wrong
<Zeroine_> the script from curling from alx.sh I mean
<kidplayer666> does the recovery environment include Python?
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<Zeroine_> kidplayer666: no
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<marcan> installing from recovery only works if it is *macOS recovery* from a real macOS installation with at least one admin user
<marcan> you cannot install from system recovery
<marcan> so if the macOS install is completely gone/wiped, it won't work even if you can get into recovery
<Zeroine_> ah I see
<Zeroine_> thanks =/
<marcan> (the installer will complain about not being able to determine the active macOS in that case)
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<kidplayer666> Just checked GitHub, saw a new tag for a new kernel, hasn’t come to Fedora yet. Anyone able to explain? What’s the delay, am I reading GitHub correctly?
<kidplayer666> *what’s the usual delay?
<j`ey> kidplayer666: takes hours for the kernel to build on fedoras builders
<j`ey> and it looks like they haven't pushed it to start building yet
<kidplayer666> Ohhhhh
<kidplayer666> Where can I check that out?
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<ChaosPrincess> kidplayer666: git clone; make; make install :P
<kidplayer666> God dammit
<ydalton> mps: you're a ham?
<kidplayer666> Im not compiling my own kernel
<j`ey> kidplayer666: just wait :-)
<ChaosPrincess> distros do not track upstream packages down to the second, there is supposed to be time for maintainers to check those, do tests and such
<mps> ydalton: yes, but I'm not active in last years
<ChaosPrincess> and its not like its hard to compile your own
<kidplayer666> Also, anyone know the name of a distro where you can change the kernel through a GUI? Pretty sure it was manjaro, but not sure
<ydalton> ah, my dad is an active ham
<ydalton> kidplayer666: wdym chance the kernel
<mps> ydalton: also my son is active
<kidplayer666> :ChaosPrincess I might be able to wait… maybe…
<kidplayer666> ydalton: literally a GUI for selecting a kernel for next boot
<j`ey> kidplayer666: just wait, unless you need webcamsupport right this second
<ydalton> mps: your harmonic is a ham too? the apple doesn't fall far from the tree :D
<ydalton> kidplayer666: uhhhhhhh grub?
<mps> ydalton: harmonic?
<kidplayer666> ydalton: no. An actual GUI in a DE
<kidplayer666> And I kinda need webcam support by next Wednesday :P
<j`ey> Im sure the new kernel will be there by then
<ydalton> mps: iirc it's ham slang meaning someone's child, just look at the fundamental frequency and its harmonics :)
<mps> ydalton: ah
<mps> ydalton: interesting is that also my daughter is also ham but she is not active much also
<ydalton> quite mad, i don't know if i will be a ham myself, and definitely my sister won't
<mps> but girlfriend of my son is active ham
<mps> my activity nowadays is to maintain some ham tools for alpine linux
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<ar> heh. very few non-men here bother to get ham licences, because of how the field here is dominated by old men
<mps> svxlink, axpr, libax25, ax25-tool, xastir ...
<ydalton> my dad isn't into the analog radios anymore
<ydalton> he's into SDR now
<mps> yes, this is trend
<mps> I have such devices around but don't have free time to work seriously with them, just test sometimes
<leio> #asahi-offtopic feels appropriate for the ham talk, so I might participate
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<j`ey> https://twitter.com/Merocle/status/1709948965754650764 '1U platform for 4 Mac mini M2 Pro (12-Core CPU/32 GB/1 TB/10 Gigabit Ethernet) is ready.'
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<gamache> I have a fresh install of Asahi running on an M1 Pro MBP, and I am noticing strange cursor-offset problems when running Firefox (tried both 113 and 118) under KDE. Basically: if the window is within ~1/4
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<gamache> I have a fresh install of Asahi running on an M1 Pro MBP, and I am noticing strange cursor-offset problems when running Firefox (tried both 113 and 118) under KDE. Basically: if the window is within ~1/4" of the top of the screen, there will be a vertical difference between where the mouse pointer renders and where its hotspot actually is, and the reciprocal thing happens with a horizontal offset if the
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<gamache> window is less than ~1/4" from the left of the screen. I do not notice this with any other program. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
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<kidplayer666> Is it the fedora remix or arch?
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<gamache> This is Arch, more or less as it came out of the box
<janneg> gamache: I think someone reported that for the non-edge kernel without display/gpu drivers
<gamache> janneg: thanks, I'll try that
<gamache> ah perfect, thanks again
<gamache> janneg: that worked great
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