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<ydalton>
real_felix: right there with you, it's pretty unergonomic imo, but the reason i made the switch to asahi is because the wifi card is complete trash on macOS, internet was becoming completely unusable
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<kidplayer666>
Pretty weird, but VScode just keeps crashing, only with jupiter notebooks extension and python extention
<kidplayer666>
Pycharm doesn't have community editon yet for arm
<kidplayer666>
Any IDE suggestions? (I might start using Gnome Builder)
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<ydalton>
kidplayer666: gnome builder is for gnome applications
<leio>
sure, it concentrates on that, but...
<ar>
isn't the "lack of community edition for arm" in pycharm just a matter of using a different jvm than the one included?
<leio>
that was the case for me today for android-studio as well (which builds on top of JetBrains stuff afaik, though had android SDK trouble there afterwards), and another JetBrains IDE worked fine-ish on my previous gentoo install on mac (haven't gotten to that again yet)
<leio>
in case of android-studio, its launch script specifically checks the included java environments `release` text file, which includes the architecture and then doesn't use it if unsuitable and falls back to other tries of finding java, including system installed one; so I just installed a system JRE and it launched
<ydalton>
there is a linux arm64 tarball for pycharm
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<faiz>
exit
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<Tramtrist>
Just put Fedora on the M2Air .. been a long time since I used Asahi and first time for Fedora... What a polished environment
<Tramtrist>
Setting up Sway.. also working well
<Tramtrist>
♥️
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<bluetail>
Tramtrist yea. But experience may deviate on what window manager you use
<bluetail>
KDE for instance has a couple of long-standing issues. E.g create a widget with sliders - and you will enter edit mode after a long-click - aka when you change the slider. It's quite annoying.
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<android2>
Can you help our opensource project. We want the unreal map file types.
<android2>
.t3d and .unr file formats (C project, GPL licensed)
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<espo>
thx questionable attitude :)
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<Tramtrist>
anyone running asahi have advice on a tool to sync icloud/photos ?
<felixXx>
Hello, I'm typing from Fedora on my M2 Pro :) I have a small question regarding the screen: it stops at the bezel, and so I miss a hundreds pixels at the top. How come?
<j`ey>
felixXx: you have a notch right?
<felixXx>
Yes that's right. I'm talking about the notch
<felixXx>
Normally, I can use the space "around" the notch
<j`ey>
current software on linux doesnt really know about it, so it's disabled by default
<felixXx>
It feels that it's experimental, though, it's bugges af. I don't have virtual desktops, for example
<felixXx>
And pinned apps aren't displayed in the "view mode" (not sure how it's called in GNOME)
<felixXx>
And maximized windows go under the panel
<j`ey>
by under the panel, do you mean under the notch?
<j`ey>
eldondev: fedora has them
<eldondev>
Ok, thanks, sounds like I just need to switch to fedora. Is it possible to have multiple asahi's installed simultaneously, or do I need to wipe my current asahi?
<j`ey>
you can have multiple installs
<eldondev>
Ok, I will just reboot to macos and try the fedora version of the curlsh
<felixXx>
j`ey No, I mean literally under the panel. The windows maximize as if there is no panel. The panel hides the top of the windows
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<j`ey>
im not sure what panel means here
<janneg>
they won't work on fedora atm since 13.5 uses a different nvram format
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<j`ey>
eldondev: ^
<eldondev>
Ah, ok, so don't do that.
<felixXx>
j`ey The GNOME panel, which displays the clock, the wifi info, etc
<eldondev>
My macos version is a little older, too.
<j`ey>
felixXx: ah ok, probably a gnome bug?
<felixXx>
I assume so, but it's quite a big bug, so I assume it only exist on asahi fedora for some reason
<j`ey>
felixXx: guess you couls check its not related to the notch
<felixXx>
No, it was the same before enabling the notch
<felixXx>
And there are other bugs, so
<j`ey>
felixXx: did yoy test gnome 45 on other platforms?
<eldondev>
janneg: My macos version is 13.0.1, I just installed asahi yesterday using the normal arch curl (not the fedora curl). Do you think I can do headless switching in that scenario with bless and asahi-bless (assuming I get asahi-bless installed somehow?)
<eldondev>
My ultimate goal is to mostly use virtual machines for the actual work I am doing,
<felixXx>
j`ey No, my Linux laptop is on 44 because the new Fedora hasn't been released yet. But GNOME 45 is supposed to be prod ready
<eldondev>
but I understand macos is really best virtualized on macos.
<felixXx>
Maybe the next upgrade will fix that
<j`ey>
felixXx: I see, hard to tell if its asahi related then
<felixXx>
Anyway, thanks again for the help, I'll configure everything so that I can use it for work on Monday :)
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<janneg>
eldondev: that means you have installed with 12.3 or 12.4 as stub and nvram should be in the old supported format
<eldondev>
janneg: so if I install fedora from this macos install, I should be able to install the packaged asahi-bless and switch between fedora and macos headlessly?
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<eldondev>
Oh, never mind, looks like fedora requires a recent macos, so I will just build asahi-bless for the arch version.
<Nefsen402>
what xf86 keycode symbol hooks up to the f3 key? I'm trying to setup sway
<Tramtrist>
wev will tell you
<Tramtrist>
for me its 68
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<Nefsen402>
It was XF86LaunchA I was looking for
<j`ey>
is that the f3 key alone, without the fn key?
<Nefsen402>
yes
<Nefsen402>
I found it using the utility wev
<Nefsen402>
Does the fedora remix use grub so I can add boot params?
<j`ey>
it does
<j`ey>
it has some patches to use this BLS thing
<j`ey>
check /boot/loader/entries/*.conf
<j`ey>
there's also /etc/sysconfig/kernel thas params that are picked by default
<Nefsen402>
I want to enable the notch and patch sway to not use it for fs applications and have waybar take up the space otherwise
<Nefsen402>
I'll share patches once those are ready
<j`ey>
you mean have full screen only extend up to the notch? and then when non-full screen the bar can take up that space?
<Nefsen402>
yep
<Nefsen402>
hmm, bash: update-grub: command not found
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<janneg>
Nefsen402: no need to recreate grub.cfg, look how grubby works
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<Nefsen402>
sorry, comming from systemd boot and efistub
<mps>
F /win close
<mps>
uhm
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<janneg>
grubby modifies the bls files, you can edit them without it. grub will read them similar to its own config
<j`ey>
ok good to know, when I was briefly reading about grubby I thought it was 'deprecated' by BLS
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<Nefsen402>
hmm, headphones don't work on m2 max even though it should it should be working
<leio>
janneg: I finally got around to trying m1n1-1.4.2 without being on the wrong branch. If I enable both rtkit_syslog and src/afk.c debug, then it boots fine. If I do only src/afk.c debug, then it also boots fine. But RTKIT_SYSLOG alone doesn't boot: https://bpa.st/I2GA
<leio>
and I see I've got a 1.4.3 to try
<leio>
that seems to just work fine in stage2
<leio>
janneg: do we need commit 50ac69eaa56d0272216 still with this now?
<janneg>
I think so, iirc it fixed a different issue
<janneg>
and yes, use 1.4.3
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<leio>
janneg: yeah, I'm getting more of the IOP spam on screen with that delay reverted and then when it boots my system, the gdm-wayland crashes (gnome-shell crash) and when I restart gdm after, it comes up at smaller resolution or something. Might be some other weirdness going on there too, though
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<leio>
janneg: I've put 1.4.3 to stage1 now - booted good at least first try. Thanks!
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<leio>
fwiw, the 1.4.2 cpufreq clusters thing didn't change anything here in terms of compile times at least, so no luck in that having made my second die faster :D
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<Nefsen402>
I cooked up some patches to make sway respect screen notches. https://github.com/Nefsen402/sway/tree/output-margins. Simply add "output eDP-1 margins 32 0 0 0" to your config and fullscreen apps will black out the top
<Nefsen402>
I talked to upstream a few months ago about this and upstream would prefer a kernel interface to get the info automatically