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<ydalton>
thanks! i saw that post but i misread it being only for normal fedora users. it's that simple huh...
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<ydalton>
my upgrade was (mostly) successful! no major breakages, except now i can't run my virtual machine with virt-manager. it throws and error saying "/usr/bin/qemu-system-aarch64 does not support virt type kvm"
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<ydalton>
what other domain types are there? the ones i know are qemu and kvm
<ydalton>
i'm trying to set it to something else so that libvirt doesn't complain
<j`ey>
you can run it with strace I guess
<j`ey>
to try extract it
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<ydalton>
what am i supposed to look for? i straced and grepped for qemu but found nothing interesting
<j`ey>
it should be executing qemu
<ydalton>
nope, no execve or anything like that
<ydalton>
actually i'll do it again
<j`ey>
find where it prints the error and see if you can figure out where it comes from
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<ydalton>
there's literally nothing... just that write syscall and that's it
<ydalton>
i'm supposed to be looking for an execvp or execve
<ydalton>
right?
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<j`ey>
ydalton: I would expect that yeah. but maybe libvirt uses a daemon which is actrually running the commands so that's why it doesnt show up
<ydalton>
i guess i can strace attach to libvirtd
<ydalton>
that didn't help, when i launch the virsh command it closes libvirtd immediately and i see a clone3 syscall which i think actually launches the qemu command
<ydalton>
i give up, i remember i have systemd-nspawn available
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<leio>
and that qemu command fails immediately, so you don't have a moment to catch it from ps axf or simiar?
<j`ey>
ydalton: strace -f should follow forks, that might help debugging further if you want to
<ydalton>
i might have an idea, i can force libvirt to pass -M virt
<ydalton>
or i can't ...
<ydalton>
fuck it, systemd-nspawn is a lot easier to deal with
<ydalton>
j`ey: i tried that but it doesn't seem to show anything relevant
<j`ey>
I've been playing with systemd-nspawn a bit too, but haven't got it working exactly how I want yet
<ydalton>
how so? at least for my purposes it works fine: i can have bind mounts and such
<j`ey>
I wanted to try have an overlayfs over my entire root, so I could have a container that looked the same as my actual machine but with an overlay over the whole thing
<ydalton>
oh, so something like an immutable distro?
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<j`ey>
yeah something like that
<ydalton>
hm, i only know of using systemd-nspawn as a lightweight alternative to vms
<ydalton>
but i'm kinda tired of this, i'm gonna get a real vm on my desktop
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<eldondev>
Whoops, ydalton left!
<j`ey>
they will rejoin and read the scrollback
<eldondev>
j`ey: I didn't know you could do that with IRC!
<eldondev>
I know they have been adding that kind of stuff in ircv3,
<eldondev>
Maybe they'll read the channel logs?
<j`ey>
eldondev: presumably they read via the logs that are linked in the topic
<eldondev>
Is there a bot in here that can do notifications on rejoin?
<eldondev>
I was just going to suggest ydalton disable hardware virtualization on the vm,
<j`ey>
that's not a good solution!
<eldondev>
then start it with softemu
<eldondev>
to get the qemu command line.
<eldondev>
j`ey: not as a solution, as a debugging step.
<j`ey>
hm, maybe
<eldondev>
My solution would be just use qemu directly.
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<eldondev>
Probably just worth installing, maybe I will do that this afternoon.
<eldondev>
Does asahi have any sort of CI in place right now? What would that look like?
<nicolas17>
eldondev: work in progress
<nicolas17>
marcan has a bunch of Macs that will run tests by having another machine boot a kernel on them over USB
<j`ey>
I think those will mostly be for mesa? or at least from what I understood
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<ydalton>
eldondev: yes, i do read chatlogs
<ydalton>
and i basically gave up and removed the vm, but now i'm even in more problems...
<ydalton>
it seems like the docker mysql images act differently depending on the architecture
<ydalton>
but that's offtopic
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<ydalton>
i finally fixed it now
<ydalton>
not the kvm stuff
<maz>
bah, nobody needs KVM... ;-)
<ydalton>
kvm on this mac put kvm on my desktop to shame
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<novafacing9926>
Can s3idle be enabled on macbooks? /sys/power/mem_sleep says no (s2idle only) but I'm getting pretty lousy battery drain while the lid is closed (90% in one day)
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<novafacing9926>
Darn `Oct 24 10:16:30 chaos systemd-sleep[6272]: Failed to set EFI variable HibernateLocation: Read-only file system`
<opticron>
s3idle is a mixing of different nomenclatures
<opticron>
s2idle is the machine is still on for all intents and purposes, the vast majority of things have just suspended execution
<opticron>
s2ram is traditional fast-on suspend and s2disk is hibernation so the machine goes fully off and has to boot before it restores previous execution state
<opticron>
s2ram is equivalent to ACPI S3 state and is not yet supported. ACPI S1 is somewhere between s2idle and s2ram and is also not supported afaik
<j`ey>
I think markan has said that we could do better with s2idle (but obviously it will take time to get there..)
<opticron>
I'd expect that CPU clusers could be powered down during s2idle pushing things closer to an ACPI S1 state equivalent, but that's a naive assumption on my part
<j`ey>
we can't power them down fully currently, just the lowest power state
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<opticron>
I should probably read up more about s2idle/s2ram and cpu hotplug stuff
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<tube6>
hey! do you plan to release fedora before the m3 release on monday? :) if you release after, i guess everybody will expect m3 support :D
<j`ey>
pretty sure people won't expect m3 support before theyve shipped
<j`ey>
and it can come later anyway
<j`ey>
it's going to be released after f39 is
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<Tramtrist>
halloween it is !
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