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<nicolas17> freeing as much space as possible on macOS will let you leave more space for Linux during installation
<Jayroro> yeah
<Jayroro> I have about 160GB free right now
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<Jayroro> catch you chatty Cathys later
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<Nefsen402> chadmed: How many hw planes does apple have? Intel has them by the butt loads but amdgpu only has one and it has to be shared across outputs
<Nefsen402> (for desktop cards - I think integrated solutions have more)
<chadmed> Nefsen402: DCP technically has 4 planes but can only actively blend two of them
<Nefsen402> not too shabby
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<fl0_id> what does hw planes mean in this case, and how can amd get away with one?
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<chaos_princess> instead of having one framebuffer, and running the gpu to composite the final image, you get multiple semi-transparent layers that are composited by the display output circuitry
<chaos_princess> in $current_year, this is purely a power usage optimization, that allows you to not power up the gpu for things like cursor movement, or video playback
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<fl0_id> chaos_princess thx
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<tsujp> muvm is only for asahi linux hosts right? i.e. not intended for use from macOS at all?
<chaos_princess> it is linux only
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<tsujp> roger
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<fl0_id> tsujp what use would have for it on macos?
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* JamesB192 jokes, "Apple could use it to get more battery life on portables."
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<fl0_id> JamesB192 lol
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<fl0_id> tsujp if you want to use the underlying libkrun library, podman uses it on macOS to provide some extra capability like gpu access for the container
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<bashiordache> hey everybody, what's the correct channel to ask for some guidance? I'm trying to get Assetto Corsa to work on asahi on an m1 macbook pro and I'm hitting a few walls (primarily related to wine not being available for aarch64 or me not knowing how to find it/install it)
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<fl0_id> lol, they didn't even wait around 1 min
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<bashiordache> ffs, hope i didn't miss any answers, still figuring out this IRC stuff
<PaulFertser> bashiordache: hah, it wasn't an answer but someone was surprised you left way too early.
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<bashiordache> saw a popup about some connection issue and it just shut down the client, and reconnecting wasn't immediate 😅️
<PaulFertser> bashiordache: also do you mean you want to run an x86 windows game?
<PaulFertser> On Asahi Fedora?
<bashiordache> I believe it's x64, still lookin online for confermation
<bashiordache> that blog post made me try asahi, this is my only goal for this project atm
<bashiordache> I want to have a mobile machine that can run that game to develop some mods for it on the go and I only have this macbook pro laptop (i have a windows desktop)
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<PaulFertser> bashiordache: OK, current Fedora should have everything needed to run the parts mentioned in that blog post, including Wine.
<bashiordache> currently the game is installed and after trying to start for a while it logs this message in the terminal:
<bashiordache> ERROR: ld.so: object '/tmp/pressure-vessel-libs-T319Y2/${LIB}/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
<bashiordache> Adding process 1574 for gameID 244210
<bashiordache> Unhandled Exception:
<bashiordache> System.TypeLoadException: Could not load type of field 'AC.Launcher.App:ACshf' (0) due to: Could not load file or assembly 'CEF3, Version=49.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies.
<bashiordache> Client 123 disconnected with error: ECONNRESET: Connection reset by peer
<bashiordache> I found online that I can install CEF3 by adding dotnet48 to protontricks
<bashiordache> but when i try to install protontricks i'm met with :
<bashiordache> Failed to resolve the transaction:
<bashiordache> Problem: package protontricks-1.12.0-1.fc41.noarch from fedora requires winetricks, but none of the providers can be installed
<bashiordache> - conflicting requests
<bashiordache> - nothing provides wine-common needed by winetricks-20230212-4.fc41.noarch from fedora
<bashiordache> - nothing provides wine-common needed by winetricks-20240105-1.fc41.noarch from updates
<PaulFertser> bashiordache: guess those additional packages need to be installed inside the muvm rather than the host system. I suggest you lurk here for more time and someone will give more details now that your problem is kinda clear.
<bashiordache> PaulFertser: alright, any specific time I'm likely to have more success or just random times? XD
<nicolas17> well several people are on holidays
<PaulFertser> bashiordache: just do not leave the channel
<PaulFertser> Installing additional wine parts inside muvm should be quite common so many people know.
<PaulFertser> Also it's CCC happening atm, so many people are busy.
<bashiordache> nicolas17: oh yea, didn't expect to have an answer tonight/tomorrow to be honest, plus i'm learning a bunch of new skills so it's all good, thanks
<bashiordache> PaulFertser: CCC? what makes you think that it's muvm vs host system? also, is "not leaving the channel" a joke?
<chaos_princess> we have logging here, so you will not miss messages if you go offline. (that assumes you are gonna read the logs)
<chaos_princess> you are running it via steam, right?
<bashiordache> chaos_princess: yea, steam
<bashiordache> chaos_princess: ah ok, logs, understood
<fl0_id> bashiordache if you run it via steam (as installed via blogpost) all necessary stuff should be installed
<fl0_id> if you installed it separately, it's prob not gonna work
<bashiordache> the CEF3 error is via steam
<nicolas17> CCC is a conference happening right now
<chaos_princess> what were the exact steps you performed to launch it?
<fl0_id> well yeah, but you have different steams installed at the same time
<fl0_id> *can have
<nicolas17> if you're using Steam it will handle Proton stuff for you so you shouldn't need to install Wine
<bashiordache> installed asahi, installed steam, opened steam, installed the game, press play game
<bashiordache> since it didnt start i opened steam via terminal and watched the logs
<chaos_princess> i think you should try asking on fex-emu discord
<chaos_princess> it is the x86 emulator this whole setup uses, and they might have seen this issue before
<chaos_princess> since it is cef, i am assuming it is chrome sandbox nonsense again
<bashiordache> since then i've tried installin stuff, following tutorials and stackoverflow and reddit stuff, started learning about how even tho there's a translation layer this is still aarch64/arm64 platform so the reason those packages arent found is becuase usually they're x64 packages etc
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<bashiordache> (how are you guys editing messages?)
<chaos_princess> you don't
<PaulFertser> bashiordache: chaos communication congress. And no, staying on channel is not a joke, it's how most people use IRC.
<chaos_princess> irc has no support for editing messages, or offline mode or anything. its 80-s tech basically :P
<bashiordache> chaos_princess: so you're just sending separate messages and it's visually displayed as a larger message box (which i interpreted as a message being edited to add a new part) i see
<chaos_princess> https://discord.com/invite/fexemu - probably ask there, make sure you mention the exact problem you are having
<bashiordache> PaulFertser: i'll look up what chaos communication congress is, thanks
<PaulFertser> We write ed/sed s-commands to be interpreted by humans. Like s/humans/meatbags/
<bashiordache> chaos_princess: thank you
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<chaos_princess> i should have went to ccc :( learned about it too late to get everything in order
<PaulFertser> Hopefully it's not the last. The momentum is huge.
<bashiordache> it's been going since 1984, why would 2024 be last?
<chaos_princess> idk, nuclear war? :P
<bashiordache> aww man
<bashiordache> tips on a good irc client? using srain and kinda not having fun
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<fl0_id> bashiordache hexchat, textual (macos)...
<Calandracas> fwiw i use hexchat, even though its abandonware
<fl0_id> oh, didn't know that. guess it should still work though for quite some time
<Calandracas> its dead software which depends on a dead toolkit, gtk-2
<fl0_id> it's also mostly c code, so I don't blame anyone for not working on it
<fl0_id> well, sure prob not wayland compatible
<Calandracas> yeah i need xwayland
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<Calandracas> it will probably gradually need more and more patching as gcc decides to break old code
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