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<nicolas17> ok after a dozen retries the game menu loaded
<nicolas17> but starting the game, the graphics are extremely corrupted
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<j`ey> Seti_: whats your goal?
<Seti_> j'ey: well I wanted to see what output pactl list sinks would produce on KDE, running it on gnome I get two sinks, one of them that seems to be the hw sink while the other one im assuming the DSP sink
<Seti_> I wanted to try to understand what KDE might be doing to have the hw sink not be visible
<j`ey> ah if it's just like that it's probably just easier to ask for help rather than installing KDE!
<Seti_> yeah, I was thinking that I might use it for more but for now probably just easier to ask someone to get output from pact list sinks on their KDE j313 speaker macbook
<LarstiQ> Hmm, it lists neither for me. Guess I have to enable something
<Seti_> might not be relevant to KDE at all
<Seti_> I got the impression that KDE would talk over pipewire-pulse like gnome
<LarstiQ> after turning it from `Off` to `Default` in pavuctl I see just `audio_effect.j314-convolver`, running neither gnome nor kde
<Seti_> Thats the "good" sink unless im mistaken
<LarstiQ> Description: MacBook Pro J314 Speakers
<Seti_> Thank you for the help
<chadmed> pactl info will show the hardware sink because its just asking pipewire to enumerate all devices =
<LarstiQ> Seti_: fwiw this is with river, though I bet something like sway would behave the same way
<chadmed> the issue is that as a _client_ of wireplumber, libgvc should _never_ expose it since it shouldnt have access to it
<chadmed> if it is using some pactl like method to enumerate devices, it is misbehaving
<LarstiQ> if Seti_ really gets two entries in `pactl list sinks`, which I don't get, something else is going on?
<Seti_> chadmed: I've been looking around in the lib-gvc code and I can see lots of code for managing and storing available sinks in a data-structure, it seems to retrieve them from pulseaudio api-calls. pa_context_get_sink_info_list and pasing to a function like update_sinks. Should the pulseaudio api-call or its parameters that lib-gvc makes be modified so it never retrieves the bad sink?
<Seti_> or should there be logic in lib-gvc so that it infers that it has a DSP sink for the hw sink so it shouldnt store the hw sink among its available sinks data-structure?
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<Seti_> theres a lot of architecture knowledge here that im very new to and having a bit of a hard time finding documentation for (lib-gvc doesnt seem to have any docs at all apart from comments)
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<chadmed> libgvc doesnt need to do any heuristic stuff (i think)
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<Seti_> Alright! Yeah I cant see any other sink heuristic stuff going on in there
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