#dri-devel on 2024-08-09 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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02:29 <jenatali> Without DEVICE_LOCAL, yeah

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03:12 <Lynne> nice

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05:59 <glehmann> > D3D12 actually does better at this because they simply advertise upload vs. download vs. device

05:59 <glehmann> gfxstrand: but d3d12 didn't allow upload+device until very recently, so you have a ton of heuristics in drivers that give you bar memory for upload anyway (and terrible vendor dll extensions to give the app control over it)

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07:29 <MrCooper> gfxstrand: FWIW, uncached system RAM likely uses write-combining as well; reads should perform more or less the same either way, writes can be much faster with write-combining though

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08:26 <jani> tzimmermann: mlankhorst: I think this impacts drm-misc the most, could you review this documentation redirect change please: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/maintainer-tools/-/merge_requests/64

08:27 <jani> MAINTAINERS has a link to https://drm.pages.freedesktop.org/maintainer-tools/drm-misc.html which 404's after I restructured the documentation. the above should fix that

08:31 <tzimmermann> tzimmermann, i dont know anything about that

08:35 <jani> anyone else then, who knows a little bit about sphinx?

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08:36 <sima> tzimmermann, btw merged the old -next yesterday evening, but airlied waited intentionally because of the amdgpu uapi that will be reverted in the next pull

08:36 <sima> so pls send the new pull soon and ping me, so that the window of "bad uapi in drm-next" is as small as possible

08:36 <tzimmermann> sima, i've sent out the new PR this morning. the revert is included

08:36 <sima> ah, will get to merging asap then

08:36 <sima> and thanks a lot

08:36 <dolphin> answred to the double S-o-b question, hopefully I did not get baited by a troll

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08:51 * jani grabs popcorn

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09:00 <sima> airlied, tzimmermann ok merged the new pull with the uapi reverts

09:00 <tzimmermann> sima, great. thanks

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09:34 <jani> sima: ping about the above MR. sorry, I'm just a bit anxious to fix my mistake and do away with the 404's

09:36 <sima> jani, sorry forgot, will do now

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09:40 <sima> jani, I pushed the approve button

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09:42 <jani> sima: thanks, much appreciated!

09:43 <jani> and the links work again \o/

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11:59 <zmike> jenatali: I just got https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/jobs/62075916 random fail in a windows build

11:59 <zmike> looks like some dependency ordering issue?

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12:31 <zmike> Hazematman: re: that trace thing from yesterday, maybe I'm missing something super obvious in e.g., https://mesa.pages.freedesktop.org/-/mesa/-/jobs/61954240/artifacts/results/summary/results/trace@broadcom-rpi4@0ad@0ad-v2.trace.html

12:31 <zmike> but how/why is it printing glXSwapBuffers calls if it's using eglretrace?

12:32 <zmike> that seems...impossible?

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12:33 <Hazematman> Yeah that's really bizarre, unless there is some common code in retrace that in happens to call into...

12:34 <zmike> I mean, doing it locally that function is never called

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12:34 <zmike> so clearly ci must be doing something very different or just lying about what command is being run

12:34 <Hazematman> One sec I'm going to check the apitrace code

12:34 <Hazematman> maybe some aliased glretrace as eglretrace :P

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12:34 <zmike> unless this is one of those weird cases where I have distro apitrace without waffle and ci uses waffle and waffle uses glx for egl ? 😬

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12:41 <Hazematman> zmike so something interesting here. In the common apitrace code if it fails to get a proc address for `eglGetCurrentContext` it will eventually call `glXGetCurrentDisplay`

12:41 <Hazematman> https://github.com/apitrace/apitrace/blob/master/retrace/glstate_images.cpp#L978

12:41 <Hazematman> https://github.com/apitrace/apitrace/blob/master/retrace/glstate_images.cpp#L1049

12:42 <zmike> hmmmmmm

12:42 <zmike> interesting

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12:42 <Hazematman> I suspect this is the code thats being triggered because its the only place in retrace that calls `glXGetCurrentDisplay`

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12:57 <zmike> I'm trying to bisect it through ci since I still get get it to repro

12:59 <Hazematman> I tried building apitrace with `-DENABLE_WAFFLE=on` and I can't reproduce the same crash :/

12:59 <zmike> same

13:00 <Hazematman> I get this new error though

13:00 <Hazematman> error: drawable failed to resize: expected 1920x1080, got 32x1080

13:10 <jenatali> zmike: yeah looks like a dependency ordering problem

13:10 <zmike> hm I haven't seen that either

13:10 <zmike> oh yeah I have

13:10 <zmike> but it's harmless

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13:39 <Company> zmike: why does zink dislike apps that display text with more than 100 different glyphs?

13:39 <zmike> ?

13:39 <Company> we display log messages in GTK and https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/blob/main/src/gallium/drivers/zink/zink_resource.c#L2943 triggers when we fill the atlas at startup

13:40 <zmike> ah

13:40 <zmike> yes, this is just a perf warning to indicate that some resource tracking is being disabled

13:40 <zmike> it's harmless

13:41 <Company> do you need to print that twice?

13:41 <zmike> it prints per resource

13:41 <zmike> so if it happens twice it happens in 2 buffers

13:41 <Company> no, I mean once as perf_debug() and once as logw()

13:41 <zmike> ah

13:42 <zmike> I don't remember why it's both

13:42 <Company> I had hoped to convince you to get rid of the logw() so I don't get bug reports from zink users

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13:43 <zmike> hm

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13:47 <zmike> I could see disabling it for release builds

13:49 <zmike> Hazematman: ok so I figured out what's causing it but I don't know htf it could possibly be causing it

13:49 <zmike> it appears to be https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/zmike/mesa/-/commit/5174de57b0a85dd0661a94dc0052a3949bafe8f6#7f64c03d67073cec4ab15b95a45de7c0ad80436d_79_60

13:51 <zmike> so...somehow on these systems libGL.so.1 is not in the process map?

13:51 <zmike> literally what are you doing linux

13:52 <Company> zmike: I think it's disabled for release builds already (I'd need to check) - the tricky people are the ones who run debug builds of everything, because those are the ones trying zink and filing bugs

13:52 <zmike> ah

13:52 <zmike> well

13:52 <Company> but those can be educated, so if you want to keep it, I'll do that

13:52 <zmike> in that case oh well

13:53 <DemiMarie> Lynne: device → host transfers must use DMA for acceptable perfoance.

13:54 <Lynne> no objections

13:54 <Hazematman> zmike: this is so bizarre...

13:54 <zmike> ajax is trying to remove the dlopen in https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/30417 and I suspect it will have the same issue

13:54 <DemiMarie> Otherwise the CPU is stalled for too long waiting for the device.

13:54 <Company> zmike: what could help is a run over the rects to merge adjacent ones that fit together - ie 0,0,10,10 ∪ 10,0,10,10 to 0,0,20,10

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14:04 <zmike> Hazematman: yep, that's the issue

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14:20 <zmike> this is so monumentally stupid

14:20 <zmike> I hate computers

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15:18 <gfxstrand> MrCooper: Yes, but uncached system ram is not nearly as far away as VRAM. :)

15:21 <MrCooper> indeed

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15:22 <gfxstrand> And then there's the Intel drivers where we used to do "real" uncached for the Atom parts and CLFLUSH all the things.

15:23 <gfxstrand> I guess that's not really uncached. It's cached but in the worst possible way.

15:23 <gfxstrand> We eventually gave up on it because we were tired of hunting bugs and we discovered that snooping only cost us like 3% or something

15:30 <Lynne> EXT_memory_host makes this irrelevant though, the best copy is having less copy

15:31 <gfxstrand> yes

15:31 <gfxstrand> We really need to get that working on NVK.

15:31 <gfxstrand> dakr or skeggsb need to wire up a UAPI for me first, though.

15:31 <gfxstrand> or airlied if he's feeling so inclined

15:32 <gfxstrand> But I think there's probably a braoder discussion about how we want to do that in the memory manager so it'll likely be a while

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17:42 <gfxstrand> Is there a bug in spirv-as that's causing piglit to hang up on it?

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17:53 <jenatali> gfxstrand: I had to fix one for Windows but I would've expected Linux to just work

17:54 <jenatali> My problem was using stdout for binary instead of text was causing weirdness with line endings ('cause Windows is bad at line endings)

17:54 <jenatali> Maybe there's a problem with nulls?

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18:28 <gfxstrand> jenatali: Yeah, nulls were a theory. It's like spirv-as isn't detecting EOF and kicking off its compile. Maybe it's looking for a NULL or something? IDK. It's weird.

18:28 <gfxstrand> For now, I'm running with -x spirv

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21:03 <nerdopolis> I checked some archives of #dri-devel, and I just want to say 2 things about Plymouth is that IIRC there was a recent change to make it no longer wait for the next driver to load, and that it handles the transition from simpledrm to the main driver without an issue

21:04 <nerdopolis> It handles the transition better than all the display servers I tested

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