robclark changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
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<bamse>
HdkR: right...although the git log indicates that we have been supporting dsp-based audio since may 2018
<bamse>
so not even x13s-related
<robclark>
did asahi also invent usb-c? :-P
<jbowen>
In the beginning, Apple invented anything worth looking at
<robclark>
:-P
<jbowen>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<jbowen>
I'm always surprised when FLOSS-y folks are on Apple hardware
<HdkR>
I daily drive a Macbook Pro
<HdkR>
It's not too unusual :P
<jbowen>
I know, lol
<jbowen>
I've been at a couple of jobs where I picked a macbook over a Windows laptop, but I still always *ask* if I can have a Linux device
<HdkR>
Always nice to have choice. Previous job I was lucky that I could do most of my work on Linux. Current job is all Linux :D
<jbowen>
I've never had a job where I could use a sanctioned Linux device
<steev>
oof
<steev>
otoh, i don't have your standard job, i guess
<HdkR>
Statistically this channel has more people than average with non-standard jobs :P
<steev>
true
<steev>
i was more meaning sanctioned linux device :P
<steev>
it wouldn't be ridiculously difficult to do my job without one, but it would add so many extra steps
<HdkR>
With qemu systems emulation, anything is possible...Unless you need missing extensions
<jbowen>
I do most of my work ssh'ed into a beefy Linux VM
<jbowen>
The Windows laptop I'm issued is really just for Outlook and Teams
<steev>
it's also a whole lot slower
<steev>
why spend 10-15 minutes on my arm64 box when i can spend 45-90 on an x86_64
<jbowen>
We likely have different jobs, lol
<HdkR>
Building a rootfs qemu, can confirm it takes a lot longer than just chrooting in to a folder on an ARM device :P
<HdkR>
rootfs in qemu*
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<steev>
woo, 6.7-rc1
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<jbowen>
\o/
<jbowen>
Waiting for my X13s to ship...
<DanaG>
I got the HP Qualcomm Chromebook, and that Cr50 debug adapter I got works great. Now I just need to decide how long I want to keep Chrome OS on it before I install something else. Interestingly, it supports the "altfw" firmware loader (which you store in cbfs), but there's no altfw image for it.
<DanaG>
Aside from postmarketos (alpine linux), is there something Debian-based that I can use on it?
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<DanaG>
Actually, seems like there's no audio in general Linux, and no alsa controls either. So I might stick with CrOS + containers + android apps.
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<moria>
Have a Good Day! :-)
<jenneron[m]>
DanaG can you send output of aplay -L?
<jenneron[m]>
if it is postmarketOS
<jenneron[m]>
also, do you mean pavucontrol or alsamixer controls
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<jbowen>
My X13s shipped!
<moria>
jbowen: I have Debian (and steev's kernel 6.6.y) and EndeavourOS of clover[m] installed. Both works fine.
<moria>
(Debian/unstable)
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<Bioxvirizm-x13s[m]>
<moria> "jbowen: I have Debian (and steev..." <- imho EndeavourOS better more apk available arm
<Bioxvirizm-x13s[m]>
I'm almost ready to convert my desktop PC from POP_OS to ARCH. The eternal battle with repo is tiring.
<gwolf>
bamse: (sorry, yesterday I disconnected as I took a long-distance, international bus... and am just coming back to my senses)
<gwolf>
bamse: re: the last lines you sent me (~20hr ago): So, is the DisplayPort-over-USB-C bits supposed to be a part of 6.6 kernels now? (if so, I have to find how to enable it, as I have been unable to!)
<moria>
Bioxvirizm-x13s[m]: On my main Notebook (X86_64) I have also EndeavourOS (ARCH)!
<moria>
More better is Liya-Linux, it have cinnamon, BTRFS, and in the Grub there I can go back if an Update fails.
<moria>
I have Liya-Linux on the Computer in the clubhouse.
<moria>
It have timeshift and saves the snapshoots in the BTRFS.
<Bioxvirizm-x13s[m]>
<moria> "More better is Liya-Linux, it..." <- only Gnome45!=)))
<Bioxvirizm-x13s[m]>
Liya-Linux thx.
<moria>
look to Distrowatch.org
<moria>
Under Liya-Linux all is configured. After installation you can start. Automatikally is there done the snapshoots when you make an Update.
<Bioxvirizm-x13s[m]>
cinnamon no)
<DanaG>
I put it back in release mode. For reference, "aplay -l" listed two subdevices for the single device, but "amixer" reported no controls at all. And the touchpad was really laggy under PMOS, though perhaps that was caused by me running PMOS from a slow USB drive.
<hexdump0815>
DanaG: i'm not sure how well it is working on the x2 right now - someone had it working ok - overall pmos is maybe in a it better shape
<DanaG>
Yeah, I tried the Debian, and the kernel didn't seem to actually load the ath10k driver. It loaded ath10k_snoc, but there was no `iw` command to check if the phy had loaded.
<DanaG>
Incidentally, /dev/mmcblk1boot0 has a bunch of strings including the mac address and what looks like a serial number.
<hexdump0815>
DanaG: yeah i think jenneron[m] did some more work on stuff like that which i still have on my todo list
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<craftyguy>
I'm curious if anyone with a x13s else experiences wifi issues that are "fixed" by disabling wifi module PM?
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<robclark>
hmm, I don't think I've seen wifi pm issues (assuming it is enabled by default, I've not done anything specific to disable it).. but maybe depends on what sort of wifi networks you connect to or something like that?
<steev>
i haven't either, but i do get the ath11k_pci 0006:01:00.0: msdu_done bit in attention is not set spam
<craftyguy>
robclark: mostly wpa2 on 5 or 2.4ghz, nothing that exciting. I'll try on more networks to see if there might be something specific to the network
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<DanaG>
Wifi PM requires the APs to support it, so if your AP doesn't support it, or doesn't have it enabled, I'd guess it'd be the same as having PM disabled on the client. But that's only a guess.
<robclark>
I think my wifi at home pre-dates 5
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<jhovold>
craftyguy: i haven't noticed any such wifi issues either with any of the networks i've been using (e.g. when travelling)
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<craftyguy>
yeah I think it might be something with my particular network. At a cafe and re-enabled PM, no wifi issues yet. Other devices have no problems like this with my network, but maybe now I can try to figure what might be causing issues with ath11k on this laptop
<craftyguy>
DanaG: how does "wifi PM" manifest itself in typical AP config? I don't think I've ever seen an AP with setting specifically for supporting wifi PM. or is it a specific 802.11 standard?
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<DanaG>
I believe the term is UAPSD or U-APSD. Unscheduled Automatic Power Save Delivery.
<craftyguy>
ah ok, I'll see what I can dig up
<DanaG>
I don't recall what you have to look for in a radiotap dump (monitor mode) of the AP, but I'd imagine support for it should be indicated somewhere in the beacon frame.
<DanaG>
My experience is just from exploring stuff myself, I don't actively work in wifi stuff or anything.
<craftyguy>
seems like that's part of 802.11e, from some random internet search results I've found so far
<HdkR>
I'm noticing elevated LLC cache misses when using Atomic/lrcpc memory access. I see when poking at some perf stats. I would have figured the LLC would have been the point of coherency but maybe I'm wrong?
<HdkR>
Wondering if there is some configuration for this that might be missed, or if that's just expected
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<DanaG>
My X2 doesn't have a modem, but oddly, it still has two MAC addresses (that differ by 1 in the last octet).