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<nopeslide> hello
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<nopeslide> has anyone tried installing /runhning asahi off a USB disk? wiki says its possible, just wondering how hard it might be
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<tenkuu> would love to know this as well, interested to try it out but have no hard drive space left lol
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<marcan> zx2c4: If it's going upstream, no need to push for it. People who want a tear-free experience now can try wayland ;)
<marcan> lina said even with that patch vsync (in terms of framerate-limiting) is broken on xorg, and there's probably no real way of fixing it, so it's not a complete solution
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<mps> marcan: yes, I tried xorg with this patch on another arm64 machine (chromebook) and xorg doesn't even start when TearFree is enabled
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<bcrumb> so every single thing i've tried has failed
<bcrumb> cant boot into system because of systemd cycle and dont know how to kill this before it starts, after entering the cryptsetup password, if i start mashing to enter another tty, the whole thing freezes
<bcrumb> trying to boot from uboot into my liveusb results in dying in initramfs and being stuck with initramfs
<bcrumb> so no utilities available
<bcrumb> and finally installing the minimal OS boots properly into the OS, but typing anything into the login results in no keystrokes recognized
<bcrumb> then, i thought, well, i may just replace init with bin/bash and it should give me a minimal enough environment to work with to open up the fucking thing and change stuff
<bcrumb> does happen, but then cryptsetup open on the partition, with the proper password, freezes again
<bcrumb> then i continued reading and saw, well, that apparently this issue could be resolved by switching udev out for mdev
<bcrumb> but then touching initramfs (probably because shit was mounted properly) wrote them somewhere to the partition or something (I GUESS?) and now the minimal OS is unbootable too
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<bcrumb> i just don't understand why cryptsetup froze on opening the fucking thing, that is making me worried
<bcrumb> but yes, essentially, everything i tried has failed and this is an unbelievably defeating experience for me, i am disheartened with myself and can only pray to god now or something
<waldi> Bcrumb: what are you talking about? are you sure you use asahi?
<bcrumb> absolutely, i just have a luks setup that i've been dealing with over the weekend
<j`ey> waldi: they are, but theyre trying to use an encrypted setup
<bcrumb> this is a running thing, so i'm just reporting my pains
<bcrumb> i will try reinstalling the minimal image and running first a verbose and debug open
<bcrumb> i dont understand exactly why the minimal image cant take keyboard input though
<bcrumb> i'll try the fallback image i guess, i should have done that immediately
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<j`ey> the laptop keyboard? usb? which m1?
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<bcrumb> j`ey: i ran the installer for this minimal OS like 30 minutes ago
<bcrumb> so whatever would ship with it
<bcrumb> it's literally just a normal install - i touched nothing except set partition size for it
<j`ey> the installer doesnt ship with a keyboard
<bcrumb> of the minimal image
<j`ey> :P
<bcrumb> err
<bcrumb> like
<bcrumb> basically i'm just saying that a normal minimal install on my machine resulted in not being able to type anything into the user field when booting
<mps> anyone know which mesa branch or commit id should be used with latest gpu commit
<j`ey> Bcrumb: yes and I asked if it was a laptop, or usb
<bcrumb> since this was done in free space unrelated to my luks systemd madness
<bcrumb> j`ey: laptop
<bcrumb> also it says it's m1n1 1.1.8
<j`ey> that is weird, haven't heard of anyone else having keyboard issues
<bcrumb> i swear by it all that i ran a normal install and on boot i couldn't enter anything
<bcrumb> i will do this now again
<bcrumb> i will erase the volumes into free space and let's see what a second one gives
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<Soni> we would like to setup an asahi chat and bridge it with this channel, how would we go about that?
<j`ey> if you mean matrix, we used to have one, but it was getting spammed, so it was disabled
<sven> probably just don’t
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<Soni> nah, we're never gonna have a spam problem :)
<bcrumb> im back inside, at this point i should start writing a blog
<Soni> (well, you can't prevent all spam. you can prevent it from becoming a problem tho.)
<j`ey> bcrumb: so keyboard worked on the new install?
<bcrumb> j`ey: alright, so it was an exception case again - on my device, when booting asahi linux distros, there is a small chance that on some given boot, the keyboard will not work
<bcrumb> my original thought was, that this was due to my luks fuckery
<bcrumb> when i ran the minimal os install, this happened 2 times in a row, and ONLY for the regular boot, not where i would add the kernel arg init=/bin/bash
<bcrumb> meaning, that possibly, would i have tried it a third time, maybe it would have worked
<opticron> Soni, (not that I'm authoritative by any means) beyond spam, there are bugs in the bridge that cause weird problems like duplicate/missing messages and then there's the frequent bridge disconnects/reconnects that just spam the channel
<bcrumb> so yeah that keyboard worked on this one, and probably would have on the former had i tried it a couple of times more
<bcrumb> i dont know why the issue happens
<bcrumb> so yeah the keyboard worked on this one, and probably would have on the former had i tried it a couple of times more, i dont know why the issue happens
<bcrumb> on this luks distro, it resolves after one try usually
<bcrumb> nevertheless, with systemd boot, i have 0 idea what my units are doing
<Soni> opticron: *nod* (but we're still not using matrix)
<bcrumb> (this is continuing on to the systemd topic now), basically, the last boot issue happened because of cyclical dependency (apparently?) of my targets against systemd-udevd.service
<j`ey> Soni: then what were you suggesting on setting up?
<bcrumb> ok i actually wont spam this chat full with stuff rn, i need to look out for myself right now
<bcrumb> thanks for the hand holding
<Soni> j`ey: we call it "microfederation" and we don't have a real name yet because it's still a huge WIP; but it should be usable enough to try at this point.
<bcrumb> Soni: but what protocol/app/platform/service sir?
<Soni> "microfederation"
<bcrumb> the internet tells me 0
<sven> please don't use this channel for experimental chat protocols
<Soni> you've had enough already with matrix we guess?
<Soni> okay
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<bcrumb_> off to break my sys again lesss go
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<bcrumb> guys im almost victorious with the systemd unit. as much i can read from journal logs (by printing ls -la) it's extracting everything
<bcrumb> the only thing i have left is after the latehook equivalent (which is just a script that calls the function) - the files seemingly dont stay in the folder
<bcrumb> so it's properly printing to sysroot/lib/firmware/vendor
<bcrumb> but then when i boot in the thing is empty and the firmware is not loaded 🤔
<bcrumb> its as if something is cleaning it up post extracting
<bcrumb> *extraction
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<bcrumb> ok so
<bcrumb> why is this tmpfs mount here?
<j`ey> so the firmware isnt actually on the root
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<bcrumb> right that works with normal hooks i think
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<bcrumb> because i was trying this with systemd now
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<bcrumb> because i realized that the latehook is being called from /sysroot and not initramfs root, so i fixed this
<bcrumb> wait a sec
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<bcrumb> ok yeah so the two last problems for the systemd boot are: vendorfw in initramfs gets overwritten by something (?!?), i think that tmpfs gets unmounted by systemd automatically
<bcrumb> so i need to find a way to preserve the vendorfw
<bcrumb> and either wiggle around the unmount or write to root and then have a cleanup service
<bcrumb> so, why isn't the stuff stored on root?
<bcrumb> such that old firmware doesn't get left around and lead to weird behaviour?
<bcrumb> right i need a mount unit for the latter
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<scardracs> Interesting news about u-boot https://www.phoronix.com/news/UBoot-HTTP-TCP-wget
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<janrinze> will fixing a partition order break osx?
<scardracs> janrinze: I don’t think but actually it will be able to download and hopefully flash images
<janrinze> scardracs: ehh.. OSX upgrades you mean?
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