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<HaikuUser2> hi all, trying to get back into the swing of things... attempting to build src and I get this error:
<HaikuUser2> ../src/kits/support/ZstdCompressionAlgorithm.cpp:17:12: fatal error: zstd.h: No such file or directory
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<Duggan> any ideas?
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<augiedoggie_> install the zstd_devel package
<Duggan> thanks, augiedoggie_... seems to have gotten me further along so far!
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<rennj> ahh the disconnects
<rennj> all day, everyday...bigger piper, shit connection
<rennj> need to find server closer to me
<Duggan> I feel you... rural connection here is crap as well
<rennj> 11.8" 1ns
<rennj> speedlimit
<rennj> i went from 1.2MB/s to 12MB/s
<rennj> vegas,nevada to sacramento
<rennj> but now this network irc connection is nothing but periodic peer disconnects
<Duggan> that's not terrible...
<rennj> traceroute to network now sucks basically
<Duggan> ah
<rennj> nah..the diff is vegas had better connection
<Duggan> oh ok, gotcha
<rennj> lower bandwidth but the lag/latency didnt do the peer disconnects
<Duggan> I'm in rural south Alabama, so there's that...
<rennj> ping time to server
<rennj> doom,quake,irc..same concept
<rennj> W0W,minecraft for you kids
<rennj> rust!
<rennj> client/server! principals...
<Duggan> lol
<rennj> X11 im a local client to the local X11 server..but i could also send remote boxes to my display or other displays...
<rennj> the server and client on the same box oh my
<rennj> just like the MUA and MTA can be same box if you want
<rennj> sendmail
<Duggan> speaking of which, I guess I'm going to start trying to hack on DRM again...
<Duggan> been some years... forgot everything I knew... time to pick it back up and try to get some hw accel going on...
<rennj> av1 2023
<rennj> phones should have support by 2023 for it
<rennj> compile ffmpeg/libav... whatever for it now
<rennj> bake into the hardware
<rennj> Project Caviar involves the already established Alliance for Open Media, a p
<rennj> artnership between some of the most important technology and media companies (Am
<rennj> ting the adoption of open source and royalty-free audio-video codecs like AV1.
<rennj> azon, Apple, Microsoft, Meta, Netflix, Nvidia, Samsung) and Google itself, promo
<Duggan> different DRM.... Direct Rendering Manager
<rennj> Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision have essentially become the standard for
<rennj> high-end media consumption, either via a streaming service like Netflix or in th
<rennj> ce of each one of these products includes a fee companies pay to Dolby, to include next-gen surround sound and high-dynamic range colors in their content.
<rennj> e home video niche with Blu-ray releases and home theater devices. The final pri
<Duggan> part of DRI: Direct Rendering Infrastructure... Gallium and Mesa sit on top of it to provide hw acceleration
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<rennj> google has answer to Atmos also
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<rennj> drm right not license foo, but direct rendering
<rennj> av1
<rennj> my moto phone does Atmos
<rennj> payed up $$
<rennj> license this
<rennj> yeah i waited for opensauce amd DRM for 4 years
<rennj> 2015 laptop with closed source fglrx linux driver and ABI based X111
<rennj> 2015 laptop with closed source fglrx linux driver and ABI based X11
<rennj> and 2019 finally amdgpu was up to task
<rennj> and 2022 the laptop this machine im typing from is still rocking..with month+ long uptimes
<rennj> 2019 5.x.xx kernel...
<Duggan> cool.... it's all open source... MIT... at least as far as I can recall
<rennj> https://imgur.com/1psrhvL 67days 4vm's 2022
<rennj> 350MB ram based os...
<rennj> i can beat vmware esxi and i give you gui console
<rennj> no remote box needed
<rennj> poor mans vmware esxi in 350MB.iso of ram
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<rennj> https://imgur.com/9H8EV5S lean and mean
<rennj> df output
<rennj> i beat out beos and haiku iso
<rennj> beos was like 600MB or so with out swap
<rennj> hmmm /live/media and /live/system
<rennj> /dev/loop0 is 335MB but that minus linux kernel and initrd
<rennj> i dont even include that in rootfs
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<rennj> amd fglrx like the m$ xbox whatever needed periodic reboots, to clean out memory leaks and such
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<x512[m]> Duggan: DRI is obsolete pre-Gallium Mesa OpenGL driver API and framework.
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
<LinuxUserHaiku> @andreasdr[m] hi!
<andreasdr[m]> Hi LinuxUserHaiku
<LinuxUserHaiku> @andreasdr[m] i'm working with scratch
<andreasdr[m]> Whats scratch?
<LinuxUserHaiku> @andreasdr[m] https://scratch.mit.edu
<andreasdr[m]> That loooks super cool.
<LinuxUserHaiku> @andreasdr[m] similar site: https://snap.berkeley.edu
<LinuxUserHaiku> @andreasdr[m] but i like scratch more than snap
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<OscarL> Good morning andreasdr[m], LinuxUserHaiku (and everyone awake :-P)
<LinuxUserHaiku> @OscarL i already awoke a lot of time(dont forget for my timezone, pls)
<OscarL> LinuxUserHaiku: you are +10, right? Vladivostok?
<LinuxUserHaiku> @OscarL fully right
<OscarL> I mean... GMT+10
<OscarL> +3 down here... Argentina/Catamarca :-D
<OscarL> sorry... GMT -3
<OscarL> (I can't type properly, as usual)
<LinuxUserHaiku> @OscarL if i'll tell you my age you'll impress
<OscarL> I already know you are 10 y/o. LinuxUserHaiku! :-D
<LinuxUserHaiku> oh
<LinuxUserHaiku> really
<OscarL> I might be older... but still can remember a thing or two :-D
<LinuxUserHaiku> @OscarL today i got three 5 grades at school
<OscarL> Again? You got 2 of those yeasterday, no? Congrats in any case! :-)
<OscarL> *yesterday.
<LinuxUserHaiku> @OscarL yesterday i got two 5 grade, today three 5 grades
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<mortisho> (I also asked this in 3rdparty but got no response) I cloned BePDF from github and tried "build.sh" in the shell but the build failed due to missing "ft2build.h". Package freetype2 was not found in pkg-config search path. Any idea how to do this?
<OscarL> mortisho: tried installing the freetype_devel package yet? "> pkgman install freetype_devel"
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<mortisho> I'll try it. Thanks!
<OscarL> np!
<mortisho> It worked, now I was able to build it. Thanks, OscarL.
<OscarL> mortisho: Great! I'm glad it worked! (I haven't built BePDF since 2004 when I was doing some translations for it :-D)
<mortisho> There is a funny additional pixel in the flat hand symbol after loading a pdf. I am a little bit curious what causes it.
<OscarL> Good luck with the bug hunting! I better not even look at it, as I get distracted WAY easy :-)
<mortisho> In hacktoberfest it is marked as https://github.com/HaikuArchives/BePDF/issues/54
<mortisho> handCursor = new BCursor(B_CURSOR_ID_GRAB);
<mortisho> Anyone else feel free to tackle it. I don't know if I am able to solve it.
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning OscarL
* OscarL waves hand
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56512] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f193f67fbed2+%5E3f7abfc9b588
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f193f67fbed2 - pci_utils: get_class_info() needs at least 70 chars, make it 128.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56513] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0449ac1e6a6d+%5Ef193f67fbed2
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0449ac1e6a6d - BootManager: fix usage of BPartition::ContentName()
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<samtux> hi
<samtux> I'm new to haiku and trying to get haiku on my rpi1 to learn using haiku
<samtux> I followed the instructions on building the image, all seems to suceed, but the rpi doesn't boot with it
<OscarL> samtux: the arm port is not ready yet, as far as I know.
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<OscarL> it is actively being worked on, but you won't get an usable system, at least for now :-)
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<OscarL> x86, 32 and 64 bits work. And the RISC-V port can be used in Qemu (IIRC). Other than that... everything is work in progress.
<samtux> ok, thanks. so I'll wait until it gets usable.
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<samtux> now the rpi is running slackware arm linux, so it's usable but quite slow
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<nephele> i dont think snyone is working on rpi1 specifically, most effort for arm seems to go to aarch64, not the 32bit one
<nephele> rpi3 and rpi4 have an armv8 cpu; rpi2 has armv7 and rpi has armv6, is single threaded at 700mhz and only has 512mb ram, so a port would be possible but quite slow so i really doubt someone would put in the effort
<samtux> sorry, i made the image for the rpi2 not rpi1. but it makes sense that the devepers are working on aarch64. the slackware arm developers will also stop supporting 32bit arm architectures soon.
<samtux> s/devepers/developers/
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<nephele> there is some armv7 progress iirc
<nephele> but i dont know how far that one is :)
<nephele> more modern armv8 boards have the advantage that many have efi which makes board bringup essier
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<PulkoMandy> There is some armv7 progress but there will likely not be armv6
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56514] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6652606fa453+%5E0449ac1e6a6d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6652606fa453 - usb: remove debug leftover
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<OscarL> Mmm, I shouldn't have attempted to build with "--enable-optimizations" before doing a regular build for Python 3.11 Now I don't know if this is supposed to be SO SLOW... or if GCC just got stuck pegging one core to 100% :-D
<OscarL> got some "libgcov profiling errors", but no idea if that's normal or not.
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<OscarL> Welp, finally got a working Python 3.11.0rc2 package to build (still built without "--enable-optimizations", as the previous ones).
<OscarL> I bet that there are lots of things to fix up still (I'm not quite sure about some of the changes in the siteconfig.py patch) but... at least it can be tested.
<OscarL> In case anyone wants the recipe+patchset to test... https://github.com/OscarL/haikuports/tree/python311
<OscarL> I had to "massage" parts of korli's "initial Haiku patch" that weren't applying cleanly anymore. The rest of the patches in the 3.10.7 patchset applied cleanly.
<OscarL> From that inital patch, only 6 diffs were giving problems (and some are not necessary anymore due to upstream already having the fixes). So... I didn't do much, other than learning how to work with this stuff, and move some code around.
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<OscarL> Darn! Pe takes quite a while to compile (and has a bazillion warnings). No wonder I used to compile Pe extensions out-of-tree in my old Athlon 900 :-D
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<OscarL> There's a spam bot running amok on Trac: jkoenzuraida
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