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<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning.
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* phschafft
adds a bowl of fresh cookies to the channel.
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<matt3>
i have done an haiku usb pen from anoher ...
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<matt3>
flash 2 pen .. boot from 1 ... delete befs partition from 2 ... keep fat partiton ... make befs partition of 10gb on 2 ... install from 1 to 2 ... install bootloader to 2 ... reboot with 2 inserted ...
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<matt3>
bootloader manager is under /system/apps
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<matt3>
why you don't like google drive ?
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<nephele>
phschafft: thank you for the cookies
<phschafft>
:)
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* OscarL
steals a handfull of phschafft's cookies while he's distracted by nephele. Nom Nom.
* phschafft
has a cookie flatrate over here so doesn't really mind.
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<rennj>
the VAT!
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<andreasdr[m]>
coookiiiiiies? Did someone tell something about coookies. I want them. I need them. Right now.
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<OscarL>
18 years later... and I'm still touching Pe's language extensions, LOL!
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<OscarL>
(I added a few back in 2004-2006). I had luck adding a small feature to the Diff_Language one today (and fixing a small bug on the Python one a few days ago).
<andreasdr[m]>
Nice
<OscarL>
Good thing I have good examples from were to steal code! :-D
<OscarL>
*where
<OscarL>
Now... let's see if the PRs get accepted.
<bparker_>
why not just use a newer browser from Haiku that was compiled with the old gcc so it runs on BeOS?
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<nephele>
some people like to play with older tech :D, but the esiest answer is probably that is would be much much harder than just recompiling something WebPositive will likely never run on BeOS, it uses Haiku specific apis and uses processor extensions to 32bit that werent present in processors BeOS supports iirc. it can't run even on some computers that Haiku itself can run on, netsurf is recomended then :)
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<nephele>
the article also mentions a tidbit: they are playing around with NetPositive on powerPC BeOS, Haiku doesn't maintain compatibility with BeOS on the powerpc architecture and doesn't really run there either
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<nephele>
Haiku did have compatibility for Haiku specific components to build on BeOS and be used there, but that is mostly gone now, there is compat for running BeOS software on Haiku, but not so much the other way around anymore
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<nephele>
there are some leftovers in the tree for "if this is compiled on Haiku as opposed to BeOS do this" but those are usually removed in cleanups if they are present :)
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<bparker_>
haiku doesn't run on powerpc?
<bparker_>
also do BeOS apps for intel run on the 64-bit port or just 32?
<bparker_>
port of Haiku*
<x512[m]>
No, only x86[_64] and RISC-V 64 for now.
<bparker_>
ah that sucks
<nephele>
haiku does have a power port, kinda. but it doesn't run, it's not usable as such
<bparker_>
I see
<nephele>
and the specs of most powerpc hw beos ran on are not suited to haku
<bparker_>
I remember seeing commits for some other arches too like m68k
<nephele>
as for apps, the BeOS compat is only on 32bit intel for haiku
<x512[m]>
Incomplete Haiku PPC port is not BeOS ABI compatible.
<nephele>
haiku on amd64 is natively 64bit, it doesn't run BeOS apps
<nephele>
(that is, there is no 32bit code in the 64bit version, except for i guess the bios bootloader :)
<nephele>
yes, there are other arches aswell devs have dabbled in
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<nephele>
but x86 an amd64 are the only ones completely useable, with RISC-V beeing kinda useable now
<tqh>
IIRC there was some experimental code to run 32 bit apps..
<nephele>
yes, severall ideas and attempts, but nothing merged :/
<tqh>
most ports never got very far, and when pkgs were introduced it became much more complicated.
<bparker_>
but if I have a power mac I'm pretty much limited to MacOS or BeOS I guess (or some *nix)
<reciprok>
bparker_: i don't know if somebody already answere, but programs built for gcc2 Haiku is NOT necessarily works on BeOS. Als the article is aout BeBox, for which platform thee is no Haiku available. Next time you should think a bit before you asks.
<bparker_>
holy rude
<nephele>
reciprok: why do you feel the need to insult someone over a question?
<reciprok>
bparker_: no, you are simply ignorant
<bparker_>
jesus
<nephele>
There is nothign ignorant about asking a question, how do you expect people to learn about stuff like OS design or say, the inner workings of haiku, if you insult them when they ask related questions?
<OscarL>
reciprok: hey bud... watch your manners.
<nephele>
bparker_: iirc there is also some linux variants that can run on powerpc
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<nephele>
I know of one guy that runs linux on his wii aswell, which is also based on powerpc :)
<bparker_>
yep
<bparker_>
also xbox360
<bparker_>
and the pippin
<nephele>
huh... neat, i did not know that :)
<OscarL>
Ah... nice USB-related patchsets from Jérôme!
<OscarL>
(some are user-facing, as Device showing connected USB devices)
<OscarL>
*Devices
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