marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<ah-> local streaming via sunshine/moonlight works pretty well on asahi: https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/sKE8hLdVH3VX.png \o/
<j`ey> ah-: local streaming.. of what?
<ah-> it just struggles a bit when decoding high resolution streams, anything above 1080p takes >20ms/frame to decode on CPU and then it drop frames
<ah-> j`ey: steam games from a desktop pc over wifi
<j`ey> oh, so not just streaming, its taking inputs from the mac?
<ah-> i guess we'll need AVD to get enough performance for native resolution streams? though i'm a little surprised it can't keep up on CPU, since decoding movies and similar is easily fast enough
<ah-> yep, it's just really fast remote desktop, fast enough for light gaming :)
<j`ey> nice
<ah-> oh and I had to compile moonlight myself, there's a flatpack version in fedora but that one runs way slower, probably because it uses software rendering rather than asahi mesa?
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<j`ey> ah-: yup flatpaks dont have the right mesa
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<lmk> Hi I have a question regarding the Asahi fedora install -- can it be installed onto an external drive? Currently I'm running a copy of OS X off an external drive and it actually works quite well. I'm wondering if I can do the same for Asahi Linux?
<nicolas17> in theory you can install Asahi such that the root filesystem is in an external drive, but the bootloader has to be in the internal storage
<nicolas17> Apple Silicon Macs do not support booting from external storage, if you install macOS on an external disk, it automatically copies the macOS bootloader and firmware (and kernel maybe?) into the internal disk
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<felixphew> hi! I remember a post from around June talking about battery charge control - is the charge limit in KDE's Power Management -> Advanced Power Settings using this?
<felixphew> or is it trying to do something else? I mainly ask because whatever I set there doesn't appear to be persisting over a reboot...
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<felixphew> I belive I should be on a 14.something firmware, so firmware version shouldn't be the issue
<chadmed> it is using the sysfs interface. it does not persist across reboots
<felixphew> is there an intended mechanism to persist it across reboots?
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<chadmed> not one that really integrates with anything
<chadmed> if you want it to persist unconditionally you can add a startup script that echoes "80" to /sys/class/power_supply/macsmc-battery/charge_control_end_threshold
<felixphew> would the sysfs interface be persistent when running on different (non-Asahi) hardware? because otherwise, KDE's UI for this seems a little odd...
<chadmed> its probably hardware dependent
<chadmed> e.g. on apple silicon macs, the backend for the sysfs file is a toggle in the SMC. when the SMC is reset (e.g. on boot) the value is lost and it goes back to default behaviour
<felixphew> sure, that makes sense. but if _any_ hardware persists it (or more specifically, whatever hardware whoever developed this KDE feature tested on) persists it, that makes a lot more sense
<chadmed> yeah i assume theres some hardware that persists it, not sure though
<felixphew> it feels like the sort of thing your average PC platform would save in (to use the term informally / inaccurately) "BIOS settings"
<chadmed> more likely to be something stored in the SBS controller/EC if anywhere when its supported
<felixphew> anyway, looks like this is a reported issue in KDE
<felixphew> Macs are far from the only hardware where it doesn't persist
<felixphew> and a pair of MRs to powerdevil in the last few months, so with any luck, they'll decide which approach to take and fix this soon :)
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<pitust> okay, so i'm attempting to get m1n1 to add the ADT into the DT (patch: https://paste.sr.ht/~pitust/cb9af710bccf94994223e9afd7e6b808bcd94c88), but it doesn't seem to be working
<pitust> oh i'm stupid
<pitust> okay, i switched to using the non-in-place DT functions now (https://paste.sr.ht/~pitust/1cb9d328ada9bacd2919a898ff98bf3209c223a4), but still doesn't work
<pitust> this is probably me not knowing how to use libfdt tbh
<pitust> oh no
<pitust> i was manipulating the wrong fdt it seems
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<knedlik> Hey guys, after a long time I booted Asahi, and wow there's a lot of new goodies! One thing that bothers me though - is it possible to run 4k page size programs? I'd like to run Steam and stuff, but I also don't want to go through the hassle of making a custom-built kernel work...
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<j`ey> knedlik: you can run a VM with a 4K kernel
<knedlik> Thanks, I'll see with the link how it goes
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<knedlik> So Steam seems to work and the benchmark runs at 290fps... but whenever I try adding a new drive inside Steam, the folder picker opens and freezes after 3-5 seconds... any ideas?
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<j`ey> knedlik: FEX-emu, that's used by that page I linked is kinda like rosetta
<j`ey> or what exactly did you mean?
<knedlik> FEX-emu requires running in a VM and is a hit and miss (at least with Steam)
<j`ey> doesn't require it, but asahi requires it cos of the 4K thing
<knedlik> Well yeah, that's what I meant
<j`ey> and getting Linux to do mixed page size processes is pretty unlikely
<knedlik> If I managed to make FEX work in the VM, I would take that any day, but so far...
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<knedlik> Might be a Steam issue, but anytime I want to use my external SSD (my Asahi partition is under 40GB), it's pretty much impossible in FEX
<j`ey> well starting a new project seems harder than trying to work on FEX is all I mean!
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<j`ey> I would make a FEX emu bug, see if someone else can repro/fix it
<knedlik> I'll try recreating the VM and if the issue persists, I'll file it
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<pitust> is the ANE's functioning understood, like, at all?
<pitust> or is it just "copy blobs built on macos lul"
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<sven> it fairly well understood
<pitust> j`ey: that's just the "send blobs built on macos" part of ane
<pitust> not the "build your own blobs" part
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<sven> no
<sven> the blobs part is just when you want to run coreml models
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<pitust> i see
<sven> the format is documented somewhere
<pitust> and how can i convert my own model to ANE stuff?
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<sven> what is your model written in?
<pitust> i don't have one yet
<sven> keep in mind the ANE is essentially a fixed function thing that does matrix multiplication really well
<pitust> sure
<sven> I think right now you’d have to write that file sent to ANE manually
<pitust> i see
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<kidplayer666> knedlik: is slp's microVM even able to see periferals and such?? I do not know how such a thing would work
<kidplayer666> also, to anyone who knows more about linux and stuff, why not put the boot and system partitions to the right while having the main linux partition to the left, next to the main macos one. Makes resizing a lot easier
<kidplayer666> (although i still have to use my weird method as no apple partition software is able to handle btrfs).
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