marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<kotleni> Good day! I want to help with experimental features, in f
<kotleni> │edora i can install something like *-edge kernel or other?
<j`ey> kotleni: no, fedora has no edge kernel, it just releases things once they are done
<kotleni> j`ey: i should install Asahi Linux, right?
<j`ey> kotleni: if you mean the ALARM/arch based thing, then no
<kotleni> j`ey: what do you mean?
<j`ey> kotleni: what do you mean!
<j`ey> kotleni: what did you mean by 'Asahi Linux'?
<kidplayer666> kotleni: the "original" asahi linux was an arch based distro which had the options of an edge kernel and a "stable" one
<kidplayer666> (afaik, i never used it)
<j`ey> kidplayer666: yup
<kotleni> Asahi Linux is actual?
<kotleni> It's have updates, right?
<j`ey> kotleni: still not sure what you mean
<kotleni> jjjjj
<kotleni> don't matter!
<j`ey> 'Asahi Linux' meaning the arch based distro..doesnt currently get updates from asahi
<kidplayer666> fedora is now the focus
<kotleni> wow, why?
<j`ey> because the Arch based distro was maintained by one person
<kotleni> okay, thanks you for answers
<j`ey> currently there isn't really a way to beta test stuff, without getting directly involved with dev
<kotleni> but, Are there other ways to help with development? The website doesn't say this very clearly...
<kotleni> but i am not Kernel/Linux developer.
<j`ey> you can donate
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<pkal> Hi, it it possible to run (Fedora) Asahi in a virtual machine under Linux?
<nicolas17> why? just use normal Fedora
<ar> pkal: the changes asahi makes vs "vanilla" fedora aren't applicable for virtual machines
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<pkal> nicolas17: I wanted to see if it would be easier to download and run an iso to do cross compilation, but I don't claim that it is a good idea
<nicolas17> would the virtual machine be in x86 hardware?
<j`ey> pkal: you can do that with the "normal" fedora iso
<nicolas17> you can run arm64 fedora in a CPU emulator in x86 hardware, it doesn't have to be "fedora asahi"
<nicolas17> the only difference in asahi is supporting Apple proprietary hardware that a virtual machine or emulator won't have anyway
<pkal> Of course, my hope was just that I wouldn't have to bother with installing and setting up a cross-compilation toolchain.
<pkal> nicolas17: that makes sense, the idea is getting more and more stupid the more I think about it ^^
<nicolas17> yeah, if you use arm64 fedora then it won't be cross-compiling :)
<pkal> I forgot to mention, what I meant with corss-compiling is that I am trying to build something for a M1 Mac running macOS.
<pkal> So it is not just the architecture, but also the OS/executable format that I am "crossing" over
<nicolas17> wellll running fedora asahi won't help you create a mac executable
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<nicolas17> the regular clang compiler on arm64 fedora *might* be able to produce macOS object files? but you'll still need to get a linker and extract the macOS SDK from Xcode etc.
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<nicolas17> building clang such that it can run on x86 while producing arm64 binaries (ie. a cross compiler) is the *easier* part of all this :D
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<Madokaiii> Hello guys, I was wondering if anyone ever had that log as i searched and can't find it "ALSA lib confmisc.c:165:(snd_config_get_card) Cannot get card index for AppleJ313"
<Madokaiii> I'm on Macbook Air M1
<Madokaiii> nvm it shows j313 in the log
<nicolas17> madokaiii: fedora? do you have everything up-to-date?
<Madokaiii> Yes and yes
<Madokaiii> i have personnally checked every package and compared to the github page about dependencies
<Madokaiii> and sudo dnf --refresh upgrade
<Madokaiii> fedora gnome though
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<kidplayer666> still odd
<Madokaiii> Update : I didn't mention it here but I must've uninstalled and reinstalled fedora a billion times, speakers never worked on my M1 Air
<kidplayer666> very very odd
<kidplayer666> what fedora version
<kidplayer666> 39, rught?
<Madokaiii> yes
<Madokaiii> i can send logs ?
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<Madokaiii> im all out of options tbh
<kidplayer666> use a pastbin to send them
<j`ey> madokaiii: use a pastebin and upload the result of asahi-diagnose
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<greentail> madokaiii, no sure if relevant, but with Fedora 39 on my Framework laptop, the microphone never worked. When tried to record sound, it was 90 percent static and 10 percent human voice. With Ubuntu, the microphone works great.
<Madokaiii> https://pastebin.com/RfDjyhBP I must say though tas2764 and speakersafetyd never woke up on their own on a fresh install after downloading all package and rebooting
<Madokaiii> greentail : not sure how to install any other distribution and I prefer fedora though so idk
<Madokaiii> I believe the microphone works here
<j`ey> madokaiii: you mean that 'systemctl status speakersafetyd' shows speakersafetyd not running?
<Madokaiii> yes it never has
<Madokaiii> it refuses to launch cause it can't see any soundcard
<Madokaiii> snd_get_config_card failed cause snd_ctl_open ENODEV no device found
<Madokaiii> and then panics
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<j`ey> not having mesa or asahi-fwextract installed seems weird
<Madokaiii> I do though i can see it in my available command and for mesa id
<Madokaiii> idk*
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<j`ey> chadmed: any ideas ^
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<Juest> hi, where can i install the arch based asahi version?
<Juest> and, if i install, how do i make sure its independent instead of replacing macos? this is not my macbook air m1
<nicolas17> that happens by default, you have to go out of your way to remove macOS
<Juest> i see, how much space should i allocate?
<Juest> i hope its fine that i prefer chat
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<as400> Juest: I think you should not install arch based version. It's not exactly up to date.
<as400> better use fedora
<Juest> okay, thanks
<as400> especially machine not being yours
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<chadmed> madokaii: well for starters your machine has tas2770 in it anyway
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