marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<Tramtrist> hm.. thats weird.. anyone find Chromium not using the right keyboard layout in Sway? Maybe this isnt just an Asahi thing 🤔
<Tramtrist> restart fixed it.. weird but.. nevermind
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<Tramtrist> wine 9.0 out with "ARM64" support.. im assuming not 16k etc
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<bluetail> hello. Will asahi archlinux be deprecated, and if yes, will there be a migration script?
<bluetail> I still receive updates, but I feel worried about reinstalling. It just runs fine.
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<j`ey> bluetail: no migration script
<bluetail> dang
<bluetail> so after sometime it just gets abandoned...
<j`ey> it turned out to be aa bad choice
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<j`ey> i think eventually stuff will be transferred over. presunably soneone could already make a new mirror with updated packages
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<bluetail> that sounds great
<bluetail> I don't want Fedora
<j`ey> not sure if/when that will happen, so you may be stuck on the same kernel for a while
<bluetail> that wouldn't be a problem
<bluetail> the problem would be that I can no longer get packages
<j`ey> well most of the packages come from ALARM repos
<bluetail> ah cool
<bluetail> I thought marcan or so hosts them on a server rented or so
<bluetail> come to think of it, I stopped reading Asahi related social media. It's been too much emotion for me
<chadmed> emotion?
<bluetail> chadmed in short, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<j`ey> bluetail: only the asahi related packages
<bluetail> I'd like to read only without those thingies
<bluetail> just facts
<bluetail> I stop reading when the language becomes a bit... strong
<j`ey> bluetail: but people arent robots, if you want facts, just look at the git logs :P
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<bluetail> j`ey I'll take it to dms
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<seiftolba> Hello
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<j`ey> oh, it may be a software issue, from another headline it sounded like it was for the apple silicon directly, but it seems to affect other devices too
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<ar> j`ey: tl;dr: gpus don't zero the allocated/freed memory?
<ar> or something funnier than that?
<j`ey> ar: that's what it seems to be, yes
<j`ey> I skimmed it, after it didn't seem as intersting as I first hoped
<ar> i vaguely remember seeing something similar utilizing webgpu/webgl to recover screen contents
<ar> similar as in also relying on memory not being zeroed
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<eiln> j`ey: lina picked out that exact non-memset issue in the isp driver 3 months ago. I trust it was done for agx. also I dunno why the article is highlighting the gpu hw when it's clearly a software issue
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<ref> hello everyone.. I'm having trouble installing asahi on my mac, is this the right channel to ask?
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<ar> yes
<ref> brand new system, did the minimum possible in order to open a shell and begin the installation.. resize of disk went well, installation began... and then it starts to connect to apple to create some restore thing.. updates-cdn.apple.com, which fails, it retries 10 times.. and it ends with "exceeded max tries downloading data" .. I am a Mac newbie, so I'm not entirely sure what it's looking for here.. can I skip it?
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<ar> ref: did you configure internet access in the installer?
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<ref> ar : for the mac installer, yes.. not the installation script
<ref> it did download things
<ref> but the restore step att restore.cdn-apple.com, what is it looking for there? some sort of backup? I haven't done that steo,, so can I skip it?
<leio> do you mean updates.cdn-apple.com/*/fullrestores/* ?
<ref> leio, yes, that's the url it's failing on
<leio> it needs that, it's the firmware that it'll be putting in the APFS
<ref> actually, updates.cdn-apple.com/*/fullrestores/*/restore.ipsw
<leio> and the URL works here right now
<ref> but it's apple that's giving the error
<ref> it's a brand new system
<leio> yes, I'm saying that the installer needs that for a successful install, you can't skip it
<leio> I don't know why it's failing for you
<ref> because it's brand new.. I haven't done a backup, I guess?
<chaos_princess> restore as in "restore to factory state", not "restore from backup", the fact that it is a new system shouldn't matter
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<chaos_princess> if you have a vpn or an alternative internet connection - try using that
<chaos_princess> (probably dont use mobile data if you are on that side of the pond, iirc the download size is several gb)
<ref> I'm gonna try restarting the install once just to see if I get the same error again.. or is that unwise?
<chaos_princess> feel free to try again, that sounds like a connection issue, not a problem with something else
<ref> yeah, something is off.. curl just quit with "failure when receiving data from the peer"
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<ref> seems to work a lot better now.. it's extracting data. looks good, must've been some temporary thing.
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<ref> that machine inventory that the installer does.. tells you cpu type, machine type, etc.. can you display that manually somehow?
<ref> I'm mainly interested in how to tell whether it is an M1 or M2, and /proc/cpuinfo isn't very clear on that
<j`ey> ref: `cat /proc/device-tree/compatible`
<j`ey> or `cat /proc/device-tree/model` is nicer even
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<ref> thank you!
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<nicolas17> ref: Apple's CDN can be weird sometimes
<nicolas17> sometimes it's extremely slow, and retrying makes it hit a different server which works normally
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<ref> I seem to have hit a display issue.. I only have a single monitor, but 2 machines, so I have to unplug one to plug another machine in.. but the mac mini seems to go dark when I do this. nothing will wake up the screen from what I can tell - any ideas? I believe I saw something similar with the screensaver too
<ref> nicolas17, ah, perhaps I bumped into that then. thanks
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<nicolas17> ref: are you saying if you unplug the monitor from the mac mini and plug it back in, the monitor then stays black?
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<ref> nicolas17, yes, exactly.. so far I've only managed to get it going again by a reboot
<ref> and that's fricken annoying
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<leio> janneg: unfortunately the last replacement has HDMI trouble after dpms off as well afterall, must've just been lucky at first (been in macOS for work as of late, so hadn't used it in linux much after that initial luck); spent 5+ minutes in a replug cycle again; also similar to ref's case I suppose
<leio> ref: you'll need to re-plug it a bunch then (or reboot)
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