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<capta1nt0ad>
MichaelLong: reading through the logs and saw your message, I have the same problem with a Satechi USB-C Slim Multi-Port Adapter V2. Haven't used it with anything other than a WD HDD though.
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<capta1nt0ad>
I also use a nice tool called lsplug (https://git.sr.ht/~martijnbraam/lsplug) with 'watch -n 0.5 lsplug' just to see the connected devices update without using dmesg
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<june>
I have a bunch of questions
<june>
How is volume controlled?
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<chadmed>
june: we got a bunch of patches into pipewire that let us expose a plugin's ControlPorts as the volume knobs for a sink, so the LSP loudness compensator's output control is the volume knob
<june>
haha thank you, I followed that loosely on mastodon. I meant what command do I use to change the volume?
<chadmed>
that is DE dependent
<june>
do you know how I would do that in hyprland?
<Nefsen402>
It's not DE dependent. pamixer works for me
<capta1nt0ad>
oh that just uses pamixer and playerctl though
<june>
yep that works!! thanks
<june>
what is the deal with branding? Is the asahi logo being replaced to just the fedora logo?
<chadmed>
Nefsen402: it is de dependent. i would not, for example, suggest some cumbersome and inconvenient cli method if they were using kde and could just press the hotkeys or go to the system tray
<Tramtrist>
Just did a reinstall and now i cant rememberhow i got the fcitx5 candidate list to work in sway .. guh
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<capta1nt0ad>
june: I think yes, they replaced it in m1n1 and u-boot
<chadmed>
it's still the logo of the project. the idea was always that stuff gets upstreamed and most of the user-facing differences from whatever each distro does for arm64 should just disappear
<june>
ah. makes sense. I thought it was supposed to be like, a specific distro/environment as a linux desktop on m chip, but its more of a project upstreaming linux support for many distros?
<capta1nt0ad>
yeah
<june>
anyway -- is there a way to connect to a network when I enter an wm (hyprland for example) from sddm? Right now I have it executing 'nm-aplet --indicator' on session start, but since I don't have a tray it seems like a bit of a hack, I would rather execute the command to get it going
<capta1nt0ad>
I think networkmanager can be configured to autoconnect
<capta1nt0ad>
don't know
<june>
I tried `nmcli device set <interface name> autoconnect yes`. Ill see how it works next time I log in
<june>
I've noticed sometimes when I get my computer out of my bag it will be really warm? This happens on both plasma and hyprland. Is this a known issue?
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<chadmed>
june: what machine do you have
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<june>
chadmed: macbook m1 pro
<chadmed>
as in m1 pro
<chadmed>
or m1 macbook pro
<june>
m1 pro
<chadmed>
if the former then yes its expected power management on the pro/max chips isnt quite right yet
<charnam>
i can't figure out how to get the audio stuff to work
<chadmed>
paste your asahi-diagnose somewhere and link it
<charnam>
i mean, i did that, but i would rather send it privately since it contains like command history and stuff
<charnam>
i looked through it, it has pacman history
<chadmed>
you can dm it to me
<charnam>
i am not familiar with irc, i'll try to figure that out though
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<austriancoder>
does the m1n1 tooling work with Central Scrutinizer?
<j`ey>
austriancoder: yup
<j`ey>
(CS provides a serial console / USB PD stuff)
<janneg>
define work. it will use the uart which is exposed via CS
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<austriancoder>
janneg: I have a CS and I can reboot my macbook. now I want to use proxyclient/tools/picocom-sec.sh and/or proxyclient/tools/linux.py
<janneg>
that's available over the micro usb port of the CS board, any other usb connection would work as well though
<j`ey>
picocom-sec.sh relies on you using the udev rules in ./udev/80-m1n1.rules
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<austriancoder>
j`ey: I missed the udev rules - works now :)
<j`ey>
great!
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<Murray_B>
Hi! I just installed asahi Fedora KDE on my Mac Mini 2023 with M2 and there are (ONLY!) two sigificant problems left: First, I cannot output the sound to HDMI - where my TV is connected with its speakers.
<chadmed>
sound over hdmi is not yet supported
<j`ey>
(it's in the works)
<Murray_B>
Second: I chose a german keyboard layout during setup but it stayed with US layout. In KDE I selected "German (Macintosh)" but also got weird reactions. "äöüß" do not work, when I press "#" I get "3". "@" doesn't work too.
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<Murray_B>
chadmed: I already thought that, thank you!
<Murray_B>
Ah, and I tried to make the desktop remotely accessible, I guess krfb does not work with wayland, right. Gnome has an rdp feature, does this work?
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<Murray_B>
Despite of those little annoyances: Great work, there is already working a lot!
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<chaos_princess>
am i the only one who has a weird noise on headphones when charging cable is plugged in? machine is j314
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<bertrand>
Murray_B: yes you are not alone it's a bug the keyboard selection is not applied.
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<OrngBug>
I just installed Asahi Linux KDE and it was easy. Nice work.
<OrngBug>
Now I am looking at the boot process and I'd like to make macOS the default and Asahi the option to boot into. Is there a guide for this?
<OrngBug>
At present the default OS is Asahi and if I hold the power key for options I can still boot macOS. I'd like to reverse this
<chaos_princess>
hold alt in boot picker
<leio>
I think the trouble is that there's no "next boot only" option in macOS side exposed in the UI?
<leio>
but if going through the boot picker is fine for linux boots, that works ok then
<bertrand>
You can choose with asahi-bless package
<bertrand>
I mean change the default boot
<OrngBug>
on start up the computer boots linux and to get to macOS I have to go to the boot picker
<OrngBug>
Is the asahi-bless package something run from inside Linux?
<bertrand>
Yes
<OrngBug>
Is asahi-bless similar to grub where you get a choice of boot options?
<bertrand>
Look for Asahi bless in the Asahi wiki,
<bertrand>
You only use it when you changed the default (or apple did it)
<OrngBug>
Ok thanks for the info. I'll look into it.
<OrngBug>
For what I'm doing now the setup is OK but I a little bit cumbersome.
<OrngBug>
And again thanks to devs who made this happen. Excellent installation process
<leio>
Bertrand: I said from macOS side; I've seen the startup disk choice only change the permanent choice, but maybe I missed some magic key holding thing.
<leio>
Bertrand: ah nvm, you were just continuing on how to get back to default macOS from linux side in addition to holding down key in boot picker
<sven>
iirc there’s a way to only select a disk for the next boot
<sven>
it was kinda hidden though
<leio>
my main use case is always linux and one-off boots to macOS, for which I then use `asahi-bless -n` for next boot only; I figured the OP would benefit from the equivalent but the other way around
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<OrngBug>
I have not owned an Apple computer for 11 years. It is kind of fun to see what new and different. But in the end I'll use Linux 90% of the time.
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<bertrand>
When upgrading macos to Sonoma the default boot is back to macos
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<Murray_B>
Ah, surprise: My bluetooth mouse isn't able to connect to both systems, Mac OS and Fedore, I need to reconfigure it in Mac OS
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<Murray_B>
Bertrand: Thank you, I guess I'll wait a bit until sound over HDMI and video decoding is working until I try it again, I hope tha keyboard bug is also finished then. And maybe other things also run a bit smoother.
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<OrngBug>
Bertrand ... thanks for asahi-bless it works. Though the github page talked about a GUI I could only get it to work via command line which is OK for me.
<j`ey>
june: have you verified the path youre trying to use?
<j`ey>
aka does /usr/lib/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 actually exist?
<june>
yeah thats what I mean, none of those paths work
<june>
"no such file"
<j`ey>
you need to figure out what package that is in, and install it
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<june>
polkit-kde-agent doesn't find a match when I usen dnf install. I used dnf provides 'polkit-kde-agent' but that found nothing too (I dont know if I used that right)
<june>
it works fine on kde so I imagine its already installed somewhere
<j`ey>
seems to just be polkit-kde
<j`ey>
ah
<june>
yeah thats already installed :/
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<j`ey>
it's in '_kf5_libexecdir'.. but I dont know where that is
<j`ey>
try: find /usr/ -name 'polkit-kde*'
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<june>
all that brings up is /usr/share/licenses/polkit-kde
<j`ey>
june: dnf repoquery -l polkit-kde
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<june>
that works! found it in /usr/libexec/kf5/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
<j`ey>
wonder why find didnt work then, maybe permissions
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<june>
I did regular user and sudo find too. strange
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<j`ey>
is the m2 air screen size with notch hidden, the same as m1 air screen size?
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<june>
is there a way to use KDE lockscreen with other WMs like hyprland?
<j`ey>
june: not sure about KDE's, that might not be a separate program, but you can install other lockscreens
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<june>
I think its called SDDM? I've installed swayidle and swaylock but I would definitely prefer using the KDE lockscreen
<janneg>
j`ey: slightly larger. same amount of pixels but 227 ppi (m1) vs 224 ppi (m2). m2 air has a ~4mm wider display
<j`ey>
janneg: ty! I think I will order one in the next few days
<leio>
june: lockscreens are a security thing that really compositors have to do with wayland
<june>
I dont exactly understand what you mean
<june>
are you saying swaylock is insecure?
<j`ey>
janneg: do you have an m2 air?
<janneg>
j`ey: no
<nicolas17>
apparently the ability to change the lock screen depends on the compositor implementing the ext-session-lock-v1 protocol
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<leio>
june: no, I was essentially saying that kde lockscreen is probably pretty tied to kwin
<nicolas17>
and I have no idea if hyprland and/or KDE's lock screen implement that
<june>
oookay. thanks... im sorry for spamming with questions... but im not done yet haha
<j`ey>
yeah my guess is that kwin has it 'built in'
<Tramtrist>
june are you able to exit hyprland and get back to login prompt?
<nicolas17>
ah yeah, kwin not supporting it doesn't necessary imply the plasma lockscreen doesn't support it, but *very* strongly suggests that's the case :P
<june>
Tramtrist -- yep. actually not reliably, sometimes it crashes. but I think I'll just use swaylock/swayidle
<janneg>
Tramtrist: works here (M1 Max, Gentoo, sway/sddm). haven't noticed any issues with sway/fedora on m2 macbook pro 13" before which I test from time to time
<Tramtrist>
Ya I just dont get it.. fresh install 3 times with Fedora
<Tramtrist>
KDE works fine
<j`ey>
I have heard 2 people have this issue
<Tramtrist>
And apparently dwl does too
<j`ey>
Tramtrist: oof ok, weird
<Tramtrist>
just ran DWL no issue
<Tramtrist>
so that means wl-roots issue?
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<j`ey>
dwl is wlroots
<janneg>
what happens if you switch to a VT and back? Can you access the system via ssh from a different computer?
<Tramtrist>
yeah i can access via SSH
<Tramtrist>
but theres a long hang sometimes
<Tramtrist>
sometimes not
<janneg>
what does `sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/state` report (0 isn't necessarily the display device)
<janneg>
should the only directory with a "state" file
<janneg>
Tramtrist: do you have a way to recover the display without reboot?
<Tramtrist>
no way to reboot without holding down power button
<Tramtrist>
or using ssh i guess?
<j`ey>
what about closing the lid and reopening?
<j`ey>
aka suspend/resume
<Tramtrist>
ya no joy there
<Tramtrist>
closing and reopening lid wont let me ssh back in
<j`ey>
:|
<Tramtrist>
gotta hard boot
<janneg>
Tramtrist: "16:33:45" is when you exited sway?
<Tramtrist>
sounds about right janneg
<Tramtrist>
oh wow no wait its back
<Tramtrist>
i pushed pwoer button and i have sddm now
<Tramtrist>
didnt reboot
<Tramtrist>
was about to
<Tramtrist>
mmmmm
<janneg>
so it recovered after suspend
<Tramtrist>
ya im trying that again
<Tramtrist>
doesnt seem to work again but it was a long wait
<janneg>
so maybe not suspend but normal display power cycle
<Tramtrist>
so strange..
<janneg>
the issue is that the modeset after exiting sway fails for some reason "RTKit: syslog message: nifiedPipeline.cpp:7465: set_digital_out_mode returned 8000000b". I can't remember seeing that with internal displays
<Tramtrist>
something fixed with hdmi broke internal displays with no hdmi? :p
<Tramtrist>
gonna hard boot it and see if i can replicate fresh
<psanford>
i have occasionally been able to get back to sddm but most of the time i have to hard reboot. sometimes after pushing the power button i see the shutdown terminal messages. (also an m2 air, with nixos and hyprland)
<Tramtrist>
thanks psanford glad its not just me :D
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<j`ey>
psanford: have you always had this? do you know if it's a regression?
<psanford>
i just recently switched from xorg to hyprland so I don't know if its a regression
<janneg>
looks like I see the same but it's recoverable on 14/16-inch macbook pros since it there are multiple modes
<Tramtrist>
cant seem to get back into sddm from sleep now.. may be timing thing though
<janneg>
I don't think it's related to the dptx/hdmi support but the modeset behavior change in general
<psanford>
if you think its from a recent change i could probably roll back my kernel/drivers fairly easily to test
<Tramtrist>
i feel like it started happening a couple weeks ago annecodtaly
<j`ey>
janneg: this one 99d7bb8619088c4e63c1e90c8df51e0648579c2c ?
<Tramtrist>
this was working..
<janneg>
j`ey: that and another commit changing it again fundamentally
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<j`ey>
Tramtrist: might be useful to see the dcp logs from when sway started, to see if it was the same modeset?
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<janneg>
it has to be since there's only a single mode
<j`ey>
hm
<Tramtrist>
Jan 06 16:24:14 tramtrist-macbookair kernel: apple-dcp 231c00000.dcp: DCP booted
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<june>
have any of yall gotten timeshift to work?
<j`ey>
june: it only works with KDE
<j`ey>
oh wait, I thought redshift, not sure what timeshift is
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<june>
its a backup thing.. like time machine but for linux with btrfs... I saw a couple asahilinux subreddit posts about it as an alternative to time machine
<june>
but I have been getting the error:
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<june>
"selected snapshot device is not a system disk", and "select btrfs system disk with root subvolume (@)"
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<Tramtrist>
psanford are testing that driver rollback?
<Tramtrist>
curious if thats really it
<psanford>
I rolled back the kernel from asahi-6.6-14 to asahi-6.5-15 (which doesn't have 99d7bb8619088c4e63c1e90c8df51e0648579c2c) but I still experienced the issue
<Tramtrist>
thanks psanford
<j`ey>
psanford: also m2 air?
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