<Begasus>
extrowerk, could you have a look at openblas? holding off for lapack on this as it's using openblas, on 32bit it build ok when I checked it
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Anyone have any wifi adapters under like 30 bucks that work with haiku?
<Begasus>
checked the forum PrintableFreedom[m] ?
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
No, let me check.
<Begasus>
I know there have been some adapters mentioned, don't know of any myself
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Ah, so far what ive seen Id be lucky to get PCI wifi to work
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Thank you
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Sadly I dont have the option of internet
<Begasus>
np, didn't do anything :)
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<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Im gonna use Haiku in a VM
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
I virtualize everything I do in kvm for security anyways
<Begasus>
VBox works fine for me :)
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
I go with KVM for speed honestly
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Virtualbox would work too ig, Haiku is extremely lightweight
<Begasus>
Never used KVM myself, as VirtualBox is ok for my needs :)
<Niklas[m]1>
PrintableFreedom: I use this wifi adapter with my desktop computer: https://www.kaufland.de/product/351045091 It's connected using the Ethernet cable so if your Ethernet port is compatible with Haiku,the adapter will work.
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Thanks :)
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
> Never used KVM myself, as VirtualBox is ok for my needs :)
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Whats do you run as your Host OS?
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
* > Never used KVM myself, as VirtualBox is ok for my needs :)
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
What do you run as your Host OS?
<Begasus>
The other laptop is running windows as host
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Oh alright
<Begasus>
This one is running Ubuntu (but my system here isn't to stable), I can run Haiku native fine also on it (dual-boot), but as for building packages for haikuports it's not an option as the system keeps freezing
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Begasus: Try out gnome boxes
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Was a life changer for me
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
On ubuntu*
<Begasus>
Even Ubuntu can freeze (like watching some youtube videos) sometime :/
<AlwaysLivid>
wrong chat, meant to do this on 3rd-party
<AlwaysLivid>
Anyways, apparently, I forgot to set mode +s yesterday for #haiku-3rdparty and it did get ridden with spam, but this chat did not. I'll keep it on for the time being.
<Begasus>
As long as we can keep at it ;)
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
> Even Ubuntu can freeze (like watching some youtube videos) sometime :/
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Really?
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
I use Artix
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
Arch without systemd
<Begasus>
Don't think it's OS related :) Laptop isn't the youngest, but ok for most of the time
<Niklas[m]1>
I think the problem here is Googles proprietary DRM bullshit and not the distribution ;) Use Invidious and it will work just fine.
<PrintableFreedom[m]>
I love invidious
<Niklas[m]1>
Me too.It's the easiest way to get rid of all the tracking and advertising.And as a side-effect,it's also much more lightweight and performs better on old hardware.
<AlwaysLivid>
You're all referring to the alternative YouTube frontend, correct?
<Niklas[m]1>
Yes
<AlwaysLivid>
It's pretty, pretty good.
<AlwaysLivid>
Trying to add support for listing other packages in the HaikuDepot web application. What does haikudepotserver even do?
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<AlwaysLivid>
*haikudepotserver-core-testg
<AlwaysLivid>
*haikudepotserver-core-test
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<AlwaysLivid>
.... alright, my compiler is freaking the heck out because it's unsupported.
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<Begasus>
nice going :P
<AlwaysLivid>
._. i legit quit
<AlwaysLivid>
or
<AlwaysLivid>
alternatively, i could just rewrite the patch on top of the latest tree
<Begasus>
PrintableFreedom[m], just installed Haiku with Boxes, works like a charm (so far network and screen resolution is perfect without any adjustments) :)
<AlwaysLivid>
alright, just rebased the change, testing
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<Begasus>
k, sound is working also in Boxes :)
<Begasus>
scipy build is fine too :)
<AlwaysLivid>
boxes is basically qemu but smoother
<AlwaysLivid>
you can also control the boxes you make in virt-manager
<nephele[m]>
boxes uses qemu, its not smoother
<Begasus>
the instalation went without any modifications, so that's a plus :)
<AlwaysLivid>
depends on your definition of smooth ;)
<nephele[m]>
you cant make the performance better with a frontend...
<AlwaysLivid>
boxes is qemu, but smoother :)
<AlwaysLivid>
yeah, but you can make other things a whole lot better with a frontend
<nephele[m]>
boxes is a bit meh example for that
<nephele[m]>
maybe you should make a pr for a haiku preset for their vm downloding stuff :p
<AlwaysLivid>
good idea, i just don't have a gnome.org gitlab account right now
<AlwaysLivid>
i'll make one because i'll be working on top of the gnome platform over the next few months
<AlwaysLivid>
and get that done too
<AlwaysLivid>
adding to to-do list
<san2ban>
Hi everybody
<AlwaysLivid>
hi
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<jmairboeck>
This is ELF being used which doesn't really have an export table like PE has. Usually all symbols are accessible from other modules if you don't hide them (or use a compiler flag to hide symbols by default)
<CatButts>
ah, so if it's a global, it's visible
<CatButts>
> status_t init_hardware(void): called when the system boots. Must return B_OK if the hardware exists.
<CatButts>
does this imply you can't dick around with driver and load/unload it while OS is live?
<CatButts>
unload old compiled binary, load new one
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<CatButts>
because I'd like that workflow
<CatButts>
and if computer/vm catches fire because bug in driver, well, it's my fault :p
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<CatButts>
*because of
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<augiedoggie>
there is an is_computer_on_fire() function in the BeAPI :P
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<AlwaysLivid>
it always returns false!
<CatButts>
so it's faster than my nose!
<augiedoggie>
i know, someone should change that
<AlwaysLivid>
..... i wonder whether there could be a case where it could return yes
<iisi>
Also, is_computer_on(), I think.
<CatButts>
doe haiku use cpu RING feature?
<CatButts>
*does
<CatButts>
to separate drivers/kernel from user apps?
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<nephele[m]>
alwayslivid: no, it eas designed as the false returning syscall ;)
<AlwaysLivid>
*whether there /should/ be a case
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<extrowerk>
umm cat: /boot/system/develop/headers/bsd/stdio.h: Bad data
<iisi>
"Haiku uses selectors 0x8 and 0x1B for its ring 0 and ring 3 code segments."
<BrunoSpr>
at least on my Haiku 32bit it seems to work now
<tqh>
CatButts, you should just be able to build a driver, put it in the right place and it should load it. It's been ages I've done it though.
<CatButts>
at OS start? or can I also load/unload it while OS is running?
<CatButts>
the latter part is what I am interested in
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<iisi>
There are two driver APIs that I've heard of. Classical BeOS style scans at boot. "New" style loads a driver when the relevant part of the device tree is scanned.
<iisi>
There's an function call for "when the driver unloads", but I haven't seen much info about this.
<iisi>
In classical API, looks like more than one driver can be loaded for the same device, which seems scary.
<yatalac>
Is this the place to ask for help with my Haiku installation, or would elsewhere be better?
<Anarchos>
yatalac here is fine
<yatalac>
I've been following the installation guide, and after booting from a USB, I no longer get the option to run the installer or boot directly to the desktop - it boots directly to the desktop anyway. Is there another way I can run the installer?
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<Anarchos>
yatalac you can launch it anytime, it is in the 'applications' menu of deskbar
<yatalac>
Thank you!
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