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<CatButts> does haiku have WINE?
<CatButts> of WINE-like thing?
<AlwaysLivid> BoxedWine
<AlwaysLivid> It's experimental and not ready for wide use yet, but you can run WinRAR!
<CatButts> oh, so it's like a VM running WINE and a fraction of linux?
<AlwaysLivid> Yeah, pretty much.
<AlwaysLivid> It won't play your Steam games, obviously.
<CatButts> like I run steam in winxp :p
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<nephele[m]> No we don't, there is a wip recipe but there likely need to be changes to wine and haiku before it will run anything usefull
<BrunoSpr> hi
<nephele[m]> (wine wiki has an older article on that)
<AlwaysLivid> nephele[m], wait, what are you referring to precisely?
<AlwaysLivid> BrunoSpr, hello!
<nephele[m]> to wine
<extrowerk> keep in mind that wiki article was writte nbefore the introduction of package management, and it is extremely old
<extrowerk> and outdated.
<extrowerk> i would like to contact the wine guys to either mark the article as extremely outdated, or delete it.
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<NicePics> Testing Haiku on two coreboot machines, the one with SeaBIOS MBR boots but not the other one with TianoCore UEFI/GPT. Boot loader sees Haiku install but then panics with 'did not find any boot partitions!'
<NicePics> It's a chromebook so only has USB 3.0 ports and onboard eMMC.
<CatButts> ah yeah, does boxedwine emulate the CPU in software, or does it do VM-speedup?
<CatButts> or use x86 directly
<CatButts> if software, I imagine it's piss-slow
<NicePics> Here's the hardware list if anyones interested: https://files.catbox.moe/3fypda.txt
<Not-b5c9> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/JG4ta
<Not-b5c9> [haikuports/haikuports] kwyxz 5ead1ea - RetroArch: bump to version 1.9.4 (#5952)
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<CatButts> my brother only really browses the Internet
<CatButts> what is Haiku's browser like?
<CatButts> overal stability supposedly good
<CatButts> > some people use haiku as their main operating system
<AlwaysLivid> The built-in browser is based on Apple's WebKit. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good, unless if you only watch YouTube or something.
<CatButts> is it better than chrome v49?
<CatButts> last XP version
<blabber> ˆˆAm I right in thinking that operating Haiku without a mouse doesn't really make sense?
<AlwaysLivid> Look, that's up to you.
<AlwaysLivid> Don't get me wrong, but it would probably be a good idea to virtualize Haiku and judge for yourself.
<AlwaysLivid> (because most of your questions seem very subjective and I'm not sure how to answer them)
<CatButts> ok, so virtualize before mashing my brother's winxp OS partition
<AlwaysLivid> You can also try it on a USB drive, your files will persist and you'll be able to install Haiku (with your files) on a hard drive later on.
<CatButts> to get an OS that doubles as daily driver for web browsing, and guinea pig for me
<AlwaysLivid> We also have other browsers other than the built-in one, such as Otter Browser.
<CatButts> oh, even better, does haiku have livecd?
<AlwaysLivid> That's what I said, yeah, you can use it live.
<CatButts> so I don't need to faff around with VM
<AlwaysLivid> The files will persist unless if you burn Haiku on a DVD or something.
<CatButts> then I am set
<AlwaysLivid> If you think that Haiku is good enough, you'll be able to install it on your drive later without worrying about copying all your files over.
<CatButts> aha
<CatButts> last step, so I don't faff around with burning CDs
<CatButts> liveusb?
<AlwaysLivid> Yeah.
<CatButts> good!
<AlwaysLivid> I'd actually recommend that you use a USB.
<AlwaysLivid> (Specifically because your files will persist.*
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<CatButts> oh hey, I can run boxedwine in windows
<CatButts> unfortunately, it runs piss slow
<CatButts> so it must mean it uses software CPU
<CatButts> unfortunate
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<CatButts> I guess you could say...
<CatButts> WINE is an emulator after all!
<extrowerk> boxedwine is not wine, i don't know what did you expected.
* CatButts sobers up
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<countryboy> love you ... : answer => love you too !!!
<countryboy> a new rule of the chat xD
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<BrunoSpr> nice
<BrunoSpr> love you...
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<countryboy> love yo too ...
<countryboy> i apologize ... i was away ...
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<BrunoSpr> nice
<countryboy> thank you BrunoSpr
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<B2IA> (Butler) Welcome to BeShare.agmsmith.ca.
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<Not-b5c9> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] pulkomandy pushed 4 commits to master [+4/-0/±2] https://git.io/JGBjN
<Not-b5c9> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] tqh 4e363b9 - Add python_bootstrap-2.7.17 based on haikuports one
<Not-b5c9> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] tqh cb8708c - ARM64 for now, until someone tries it on other arch
<Not-b5c9> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] tqh faa8354 - Update ARCHITECTURES
<Not-b5c9> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] pulkomandy f527e7e - Merge pull request #2 from tqh/python-bootstrap
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