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<waddlesplash> Sabex: it's that trivial to install the EFI loader. boots off the first Haiku partition by default. It shows a menu if it can't find the partition (e.g. if you have it on a different disk than the EFI partition is on.)
<waddlesplash> but you can still boot off those partitions too, you just have to select them manually in the loader when you run it.
<waddlesplash> Sabex: YouTube is still a bit unreliable in Web+ but yes it does work ... sometimes
<waddlesplash> Falkon is much more reliable in general but unfortunately crashes universally on YouTube
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<Sabex> waddlesplash: It's amazing, I'm going to install it on my big rig tonight.
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<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f9d46942545d...21cf1b86fee1
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 21cf1b8 - ZXTune: bump version
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<netpositive> morning
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<Begasus> morning netpositive
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<Not-a434> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/01ddd367cba9...b526ec7cbc08
<Not-a434> [haiku/website] alistairmcmillan b526ec7 - Fix broken anchor in get-source-git.md
<Not-a434> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/b526ec7cbc08...5f6a2fc7eb3d
<Not-a434> [haiku/website] SikkiLadho 5f6a2fc - replace yaourt with Paru in /content/guides/buidling/pre-reqs.md. yaourt is dead.
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<Anarchos> interesting : i chose 1024*600 in the loader menu safe options, but my screen is still in 1024*768, and 1024*600 is not proposed as a mode in Screen prefrerences
<Anarchos> listarea |grep accelerant shows that i use the intel-extreme driver
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<Anarchos> nteresting : i chose 1024*600 in the loader menu safe options, but my screen is still in 1024*768, and 1024*600 is not proposed as a mode in Screen prefrerences <Anarchos> listarea |grep accelerant shows that i use the intel-extreme driver
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<HaikuUser> lol
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<nephele> Anarchos: then don't use the intel-extreme driver ;)
<nephele> If you want the resolution safe mode gives you it will have to be with the vesa driver
<nephele> intel-extreme is free to discover the resolutions available on it's own and propose them to be used, if it doesn't find yours it is probably a bug
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<jmairboeck> does anyone know how to use FontConfig from within haikuporter? when running lilypond (during its own build) it crashes with a FontConfig error ("Cannot load default config file"). Apparently the same happens also during configure already, when executing fc-list, but it is non-fatal there.
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<matt2> hello
<matt2> about boneyard => bone => https://youtu.be/8KciRaANKmo
<matt2> a joke xD
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<BrunoSpr> Hello all
<BrunoSpr> why does'nt the Windows Key open the Haiku-Leaf menu?
<BrunoSpr> I do not have a list-key on my HP keyboard
<nephele> The menu key opens the menu
<nephele> jmairboeck‎: what do you mean with within haikuporter? you mean during a build? there is nothing inherently special about that, haikuporter just mounts haiku packages to a specific chroot
<nephele> you might have to declare additional dependencies that are missing
<jmairboeck> nephele: I have cmd:fc_list$secondaryArchSuffix in BUILD_PREREQUIRES, and it is found, but doesn't run. in the fontconfig recipe, its config files are declared as GLOBAL_WRITABLE_FILES. Could it be that those are not available inside haikuporter?
<nephele> You can't expect config files to be available if you did not provide them
<nephele> anything that is outside the chroot stays outside so builds are reproduceable
<nephele> so either find the package that contains your configure and depend on that or supply the config to your build and copy it to the location the build expects
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<BrunoSpr> nephele, I do not have a menu-key on this HP laptop keyboard
<BrunoSpr> or a list-key
<nephele> Well, this isn't configurable, it is hardcoded to behave this way
<nephele> :/
<jmairboeck> BrunoSpr: you could remap that key to another one in Keymap preferences, I think
<nephele> which would break window stacking
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<jmairboeck> the fontconfig package contains the config file settings/fonts.conf as "auto-merge". It seems however that this file is not available inside the haikuporter chroot. If I understand it correctly, the package contains a default version of the file if it specified as "auto-merge".
<jmairboeck> how do I get that when mounting the fontconfig package in the haikuporter chroot?
<jmairboeck> is that even possible?
<Not-a434> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/5f6a2fc7eb3d...a0933cc793d2
<Not-a434> [haiku/website] waddlesplash a0933cc - March Activity & Contract report: spelling/typo correction.
<nephele> It should be available normally?
<nephele> You can run shell commands during the build section to inspect the build env
<nephele> (maybe even a shell?)
<jmairboeck> there is hp -E for that ...
<jmairboeck> the folder /boot/system/settings contains only etc and network inside the chroot
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<rhx_irc> Is there anything special that needs to be done to get wine working on haiku?
<rhx_irc> got wine_bin from haikudepot, but nothing other than the default winecfg or winemine works
<nephele> Wine on Haiku does not support 32bit applications yet, which makes it not that usefull
<nephele> you can try to use native 64bit windows applications (which almost none of them are...)
<rhx_irc> I'm trying to run the 64 bit installer of notepad++
<rhx_irc> Here the full log:
<rhx_irc> I don't see anything obviously broken
<x512[m]> rhx_irc: "ShellExecuteEx failed: Internal error." This usually mean attempt to run 32 bit application.
<x512[m]> Most installers are 32 bit even for latest versions.
<rhx_irc> Ok yeah I just tried the portable version of the same app and it now works.
<rhx_irc> til 64 bit app installers are in 32 bit
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<nephele> yes, most of them are
<nephele> most windows apps that are "64bit native" also depend on 32bit libraries, and thus also do not run
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56008] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2b5b2284429b+%5Eab3c8bea0744
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 2b5b2284429b - boot/efi: implement ranges property for simple-bus
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56009] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4b1d94b43597+%5E2b5b2284429b
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 4b1d94b43597 - debug_uart fixup for arm64
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<WildmanProductions> true story, haiku on my old 2005 macpro in virtualbox runs like a well oiled machine. on the ryzen 5 you might as well forget it because its a slideshow
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<Anarchos> ah ah , my vesa driver tells me i have -2147483648 dpi (in Screen preferences)
<nephele> that sounds like int32
<Anarchos> nephele indeed, MIN_INT
<nephele> somewhere i have a screenshot of galactic civilization 2 that said my color depth is 21474853547 and that it would be better played with a color depth of 24 :)
<Anarchos> i have choice to use vesa driver : good screen resolution 1024*600 but no brightness control, or intel_extreme driver : bad resolution 1024'*768 (1024*600 unavailable) but with brightness control:/
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<nephele> ticket? :)
<Anarchos> nephele i should.....
<Anarchos> nephele but when i do tickets, my problems are never solved
<Anarchos> nephele as this one : https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17394
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<Anarchos> echo -e "\nWelcome to the \033[1;4;34mHai\033[1;4;31mku\033[m shell.\n"
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<mmu_man_> didn't we have an image mounter tool?
<nephele> yes, don't remember the tool name :D
<x512[m]> mmu_man_: diskimage register
<mmu_man_> ahhh thanks
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<jmairboeck> hi Anarchos
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<jmairboeck> I just created a new (draft) pull request for TeXLive 2022 at haikuports: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/6818
<Anarchos> jmairboeck nice ! let me see it right now
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<Anarchos> jmairboeck i am on x86_gcc2, how to test it ?
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<jmairboeck> you can pull the pull request from github and then use haikuporter to build it
<Anarchos> it will be long i think...
<jmairboeck> git pull origin pr/6818/head:texlive should work probably (see https://stackoverflow.com/a/30584951/1467476)
<jmairboeck> then you can use haikuporter texlive_core_x86
<mmu_man> beta3 already had some MMC driver?
<mmu_man> seems to freeze on a machine here
<Anarchos> mmu_man dunno but i remember having helped pulkomandy to troubleshoot the mmc driver
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<Anarchos> git pull origin pr/6818/head:texlive -----> impossible to find distant reference
<jmairboeck> is your remote called "origin"
<jmairboeck> ?
<jmairboeck> otherwise you have to change that
<Anarchos> jmairboeck yes it is
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<jmairboeck> ah, I made a mistake there, on stackoverflow it says "git fetch", not git pull, sorry
<Anarchos> same error message
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<jmairboeck> and "pull", not "pr"
<jmairboeck> I don't know what I mixed up there
<jmairboeck> so "git fetch pull/6818/head:texlive", then "git checkout texlive"
<jmairboeck> git fetch origin ...
<Anarchos> git fetch origin pull/6818/head:texlive
<jmairboeck> yes
<Anarchos> so hp texlive_core_x86 or texlive_core_x86_gcc2
<jmairboeck> texlive_core_x86
<jmairboeck> it doesn't work with x86_gcc2 (and that would be the primary arch anyway)
<Anarchos> jmairboeck : haikuporter launched.
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<jmairboeck> I'm downloading texlive-texmf now ... this will take a while
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<jmairboeck> the size of that tarball increased to 3.4 GB, from 3.2 GB in 2021
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<Anarchos> jmairboeck the source package ?
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<jmairboeck> yes, the source tarball of the texlive-texmf package, which contains all the tex data
<jmairboeck> which is to be packaged in the texlive_* packages
<Anarchos> jmairboeck ok
<Anarchos> Error: texlive_core_x86 not found in repository
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/8be9529ea2d1...dfa39ff8a673
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuporter] korli dfa39ff - waitForPackageSelfLink: wait a bit before reading the link
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/dfa39ff8a673...4acf4899fe14
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuporter] korli 4acf489 - setupChrootScript: add font settings to the chroot
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<jmairboeck> korli, PulkoMandy: thanks!
<jmairboeck> I will try that if lilypond works now, when I'm finished with texlive
<Anarchos> jmairboeck ARCHITECTURE all !x86_gcc2, is it normal ?
<jmairboeck> yes, that is correct
<jmairboeck> Anarchos: did you enable secondary arch x86 in haikuporter.conf?
<Anarchos> jmairboeck no idea
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<Anarchos> jmairboeck Error: The version of the recipe file format used in the ports tree is older than the one supported by haikuporter. Error: Please upgrade the ports tree.
* Anarchos needs help from someone who tried net boot
<jmairboeck> Anarchos: I don't know what that error means
<Anarchos> jmairboeck maybe the haikuports recipe is too old for haikuporter ?
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<jmairboeck> I used the packaged haikuporter, maybe there were some incompatible changes in the haikuporter repository
<jmairboeck> I will have to switch to the git version for lilypond though
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<Anarchos> jmairboeck i use the packaged haikuporter too
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